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In reply to the discussion: The central point about Trayvon Martin-completely missed by the Zimmerman defenders all along [View all]chervilant
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The central point about Trayvon Martin-completely missed by the Zimmerman defenders all along [View all]
kpete
Apr 2012
OP
The main point all along. No to two sets of laws. SYG is for victims, not stalkers!
freshwest
Apr 2012
#1
BAM!! Yes, that's is exactly what they seem intent on ignoring. I was always taught to do
Ecumenist
Apr 2012
#4
Zimmerman was much larger 5' 10" and 170# vs 6' 3" and 160#, I don't think so. Also 10 years older
doc03
Apr 2012
#9
The girlfriend said Trayvon told her he was being followed by some strange guy
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2012
#22
Are you serious? You can hear his laboured breathing AFTER he's told that... But of
Ecumenist
Apr 2012
#17
But the prosecutors said according to their evidence he continued to follow Trayvon
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#21
I wish the dispatcher had been more authoritative but I think Zimmerman would ....
marble falls
Apr 2012
#116
Zimmerman's own account whe he's on the phone with 911. He was told not to leave his car. He ignores
DevonRex
Apr 2012
#12
Then it would appear your understanding of English is somewhat lacking...
LanternWaste
Apr 2012
#159
I am not defending either one of them. When this case was brought to light we only heard
doc03
Apr 2012
#30
If he headed back to his car then how on Earth did they end up fighting so far from the car?
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#33
He said no such thing, the dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that" and Zimmerman said "OK"'.
doc03
Apr 2012
#36
do you truly believe pretending you have a point will actually make it so?
fascisthunter
Apr 2012
#57
Interesting how you convienently ignore so much of the story to make Zimmerman appear innocent.
SmellyFeet
Apr 2012
#117
Yep. Black folks are allowed to stand up for themselves and get all uppity, doncha know.
Ecumenist
Apr 2012
#19
Apparently a 27 year old with a history of violence and disregarding the law
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#38
No reason it couldn't work that way. Provoke a confrontation. Get response. Fire. (nt)
DirkGently
Apr 2012
#78
How is following someone down a street different than tapping your phone sans warrant?!? Seriously??
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#90
You are right that it shouldn't be put on par with tapping your neighbor's phone.
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#96
There is generally nothing illegal about following and verbally confronting a person.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#124
There would not be any charge if there had not been a fight, an assault or in this case, a killing.
JDPriestly
Apr 2012
#176
How can calling people that are defending Zimmerman's behavior "Zimmerman defenders"
rhett o rick
Apr 2012
#89
Defend people who stalk, pursue and gun down unarmed teenagers...get called out
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2012
#91
Psst. Stand your ground only applies to guns. The gun has a right to stand its ground
McCamy Taylor
Apr 2012
#83
A person generally doesn't legally have the right to take a swing at someone following them, no.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#84
Stand your ground does give you the right to swing at someone you think is a threat
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#93
I would think that would depend on the perception of the person who is being followed
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#97
What if Trayvon had been a female walking alone at night and followed and approached
polly7
Apr 2012
#99
Do you really believe anyone terrified by a stalking, threatening nutcase with a gun would
polly7
Apr 2012
#148
No, if you're going to use force to defend yourself, all you really have to know at the
polly7
Apr 2012
#152
You're assuming the gun was out at the time? That doesn't fit any narrative presented so far.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#153
If you don't want to understand self-defense justification, feel free to ignore.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#147
How Did Martin Know It Wasn't A Ped/Rapist Following Him In The Night?
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2012
#122
He didn't. But until Zimmerman did something actually illegal, it doesn't rise to the legal standard
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#126
We Don't Know What Happened After From The Point Zimmerman Began Stalking Martin
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2012
#130
One Scenario Is Zimmerman Tried To Stop Martin But Martin Kept On Walking
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2012
#132
If he were brandishing it, that would be a forcible felony. (and justification for deadly force)
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#155
Possibly, but knowing someone is armed also doesn't make the apprehension 'reasonable'.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#157
"I believe that following someone is NOT standing your ground. It is invading theirs."
ProfessionalLeftist
Apr 2012
#136