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In reply to the discussion: The central point about Trayvon Martin-completely missed by the Zimmerman defenders all along [View all]Cosmocat
(14,589 posts)104. Dude!
I just can not for the life of me see how anyone can defend Zimmerman.
He very clearly is some pathetic loser with some real issues who has been protected by his father, the judge, from the consequences of his actions.
Just a tragic situation where this clown kills what appears to be a pretty decent kid. The locals who bowed to dad one more time for this twit are responsible for this turning into a freak show, and the justice that Martin deserves forever being tainted by the bizarre right wing spin machine into Zimmerman being some kind of victim and cult hero, and a decent kid who was simply minding his own business and got executed that night being painted in the sad way he is being painted by these people.
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The central point about Trayvon Martin-completely missed by the Zimmerman defenders all along [View all]
kpete
Apr 2012
OP
The main point all along. No to two sets of laws. SYG is for victims, not stalkers!
freshwest
Apr 2012
#1
BAM!! Yes, that's is exactly what they seem intent on ignoring. I was always taught to do
Ecumenist
Apr 2012
#4
Zimmerman was much larger 5' 10" and 170# vs 6' 3" and 160#, I don't think so. Also 10 years older
doc03
Apr 2012
#9
The girlfriend said Trayvon told her he was being followed by some strange guy
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2012
#22
Are you serious? You can hear his laboured breathing AFTER he's told that... But of
Ecumenist
Apr 2012
#17
But the prosecutors said according to their evidence he continued to follow Trayvon
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#21
I wish the dispatcher had been more authoritative but I think Zimmerman would ....
marble falls
Apr 2012
#116
Zimmerman's own account whe he's on the phone with 911. He was told not to leave his car. He ignores
DevonRex
Apr 2012
#12
Then it would appear your understanding of English is somewhat lacking...
LanternWaste
Apr 2012
#159
I am not defending either one of them. When this case was brought to light we only heard
doc03
Apr 2012
#30
If he headed back to his car then how on Earth did they end up fighting so far from the car?
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#33
He said no such thing, the dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that" and Zimmerman said "OK"'.
doc03
Apr 2012
#36
do you truly believe pretending you have a point will actually make it so?
fascisthunter
Apr 2012
#57
Interesting how you convienently ignore so much of the story to make Zimmerman appear innocent.
SmellyFeet
Apr 2012
#117
Yep. Black folks are allowed to stand up for themselves and get all uppity, doncha know.
Ecumenist
Apr 2012
#19
Apparently a 27 year old with a history of violence and disregarding the law
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#38
No reason it couldn't work that way. Provoke a confrontation. Get response. Fire. (nt)
DirkGently
Apr 2012
#78
How is following someone down a street different than tapping your phone sans warrant?!? Seriously??
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#90
You are right that it shouldn't be put on par with tapping your neighbor's phone.
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#96
There is generally nothing illegal about following and verbally confronting a person.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#124
There would not be any charge if there had not been a fight, an assault or in this case, a killing.
JDPriestly
Apr 2012
#176
How can calling people that are defending Zimmerman's behavior "Zimmerman defenders"
rhett o rick
Apr 2012
#89
Defend people who stalk, pursue and gun down unarmed teenagers...get called out
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2012
#91
Psst. Stand your ground only applies to guns. The gun has a right to stand its ground
McCamy Taylor
Apr 2012
#83
A person generally doesn't legally have the right to take a swing at someone following them, no.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#84
Stand your ground does give you the right to swing at someone you think is a threat
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#93
I would think that would depend on the perception of the person who is being followed
Quixote1818
Apr 2012
#97
What if Trayvon had been a female walking alone at night and followed and approached
polly7
Apr 2012
#99
Do you really believe anyone terrified by a stalking, threatening nutcase with a gun would
polly7
Apr 2012
#148
No, if you're going to use force to defend yourself, all you really have to know at the
polly7
Apr 2012
#152
You're assuming the gun was out at the time? That doesn't fit any narrative presented so far.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#153
If you don't want to understand self-defense justification, feel free to ignore.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#147
How Did Martin Know It Wasn't A Ped/Rapist Following Him In The Night?
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2012
#122
He didn't. But until Zimmerman did something actually illegal, it doesn't rise to the legal standard
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#126
We Don't Know What Happened After From The Point Zimmerman Began Stalking Martin
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2012
#130
One Scenario Is Zimmerman Tried To Stop Martin But Martin Kept On Walking
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2012
#132
If he were brandishing it, that would be a forcible felony. (and justification for deadly force)
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#155
Possibly, but knowing someone is armed also doesn't make the apprehension 'reasonable'.
X_Digger
Apr 2012
#157
"I believe that following someone is NOT standing your ground. It is invading theirs."
ProfessionalLeftist
Apr 2012
#136