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abelenkpe

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43. Here
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:50 PM
Apr 2012

Zimmerman:

We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman:

He looks black.

911 dispatcher:

Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]

911 dispatcher:

He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.

Zimmerman:

Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]

911 dispatcher:

OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?

Zimmerman:

That’s the clubhouse.

911 dispatcher:

He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

911 dispatcher:

How old would you say he is?

Zimmerman:

He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.

911 dispatcher:

Late teens?

Zimmerman:

Uh, huh.

Something’s wrong with him. Yep, he’s coming to check me out.

He’s got something in his hands. I don’t know what his deal is. [01:20]

911 dispatcher:

Let me know if he does anything, OK?

Zimmerman:

OK.

911 dispatcher:

We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman:

OK.

These assholes. They always get away.

When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]

911 dispatcher:

OK, so it’s on the left hand side of the clubhouse?

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

He’s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ‘F-ing coons’ at 2:22]

NOTE:

[Listen here at 1:17 for CNN's edited frame]
911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, what’s your last name?

Zimmerman:

Zimmerman.

911 dispatcher:

What’s the phone number you’re calling from?

Zimmerman:

407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman:

Yeah.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman:

Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]

Zimmerman:

Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, yeah, I live here.

911 dispatcher:

OK, what’s your apartment number?

Zimmerman:

It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]

Zimmerman:

Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …

Zimmerman:

Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]

911 dispatcher:

OK, that’s no problem.

Zimmerman:

My number … you’ve got it?

911 dispatcher:

Yeah, I’ve got it. 435-2400?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, you got it.

911 dispatcher:

OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]

Zimmerman:

Thanks.

911 dispatcher:

You’re welcome.

Call ends 4:07

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Zimmerman answered Yes to was he following Trayvon. He continued following him despite being told not to. Trayvons girlfriend was on the phone with him at the time. Trayvon told her some guy was following him. She told him to run. Trayvon was shot moments later. That is the evidence.

The main point all along. No to two sets of laws. SYG is for victims, not stalkers! freshwest Apr 2012 #1
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2012 #2
Exactly. That and there should have been an investigation from the get-go Iris Apr 2012 #3
and if Zimmerman was a black man "standing his ground" ... zbdent Apr 2012 #121
You KNOW he would have been arrested on the spot. Iris Apr 2012 #123
BAM!! Yes, that's is exactly what they seem intent on ignoring. I was always taught to do Ecumenist Apr 2012 #4
+1 AnotherDreamWeaver Apr 2012 #6
I have never understood nevergiveup Apr 2012 #5
Zimmerman was much larger 5' 10" and 170# vs 6' 3" and 160#, I don't think so. Also 10 years older doc03 Apr 2012 #9
6'3''? marshall gaines Apr 2012 #28
I hate that meme Iris Apr 2012 #61
Martin's nickname was Slimm. nt Daalalou Apr 2012 #64
Says it all. Iris Apr 2012 #67
So tell us what you think, if you dare. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #85
10 Years older? brush Apr 2012 #108
So the gun wasn't an equalizer after all ..... marble falls Apr 2012 #115
I Don't Get It DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #120
Is there any evidence that proves Zimmerman was stalking Trayvon? doc03 Apr 2012 #7
Only all of it Vincardog Apr 2012 #10
Yes Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #11
No the dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that" and doc03 Apr 2012 #13
LOL!!! Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #15
What about the girlfriend? n/t doc03 Apr 2012 #18
The girlfriend said Trayvon told her he was being followed by some strange guy Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #22
And where was Zimmerman after his 911 call? Daalalou Apr 2012 #63
Are you serious? You can hear his laboured breathing AFTER he's told that... But of Ecumenist Apr 2012 #17
But the prosecutors said according to their evidence he continued to follow Trayvon Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #21
Not always. "ok" can mean "I heard you", not "I will do what you say" uppityperson Apr 2012 #23
It can also be a polite way of saying, "Shut up. I've heard enough." JDPriestly Apr 2012 #164
Stalking brush Apr 2012 #109
I wish the dispatcher had been more authoritative but I think Zimmerman would .... marble falls Apr 2012 #116
911 dispatchers usually aren't cops Kennah Apr 2012 #166
Have you never known someone to say one thing and do another? whopis01 Apr 2012 #135
I don't think that it helps the argument much backtomn Apr 2012 #68
Amen n/t doc03 Apr 2012 #69
All of it? HarveyDarkey Apr 2012 #82
Gun brush Apr 2012 #110
But Martin wasn't doing anything illegal Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #114
teenager goes to the store for Skittles and iced tea and winds up dead Skittles Apr 2012 #158
You might want to correct your typo, tblue37 Apr 2012 #173
Zimmerman's own account whe he's on the phone with 911. He was told not to leave his car. He ignores DevonRex Apr 2012 #12
Zimmerman said OK, in my understanding of English that meant he agreed with the doc03 Apr 2012 #16
You have an interesting interpretation... Leftist Agitator Apr 2012 #24
Just because he told the dispatcher "ok" do you really think he stopped? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #26
"OK" doesn't always mean "I will follow your directions" uppityperson Apr 2012 #29
Your interp may have flown.... AlbertCat Apr 2012 #42
It shows he's a mf-ing liar since he did follow. Then DevonRex Apr 2012 #77
You're reaching pokerfan Apr 2012 #81
You are quite...... A wise Man Apr 2012 #111
Then it would appear your understanding of English is somewhat lacking... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #159
The dispatcher told him that he did not need to follow, but backtomn Apr 2012 #70
Really? wow. eom Ecumenist Apr 2012 #14
I am not defending either one of them. When this case was brought to light we only heard doc03 Apr 2012 #30
If he headed back to his car then how on Earth did they end up fighting so far from the car? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #33
"I am not defending either one of them." Occulus Apr 2012 #62
Trayvon Martin was dead, so pray tell how did he ever hear "his side"? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #66
Listen to Zimmerman's first 911 call a couple of more times. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #101
yes, why would you defend Martin? CreekDog Apr 2012 #125
what???? marshall gaines Apr 2012 #27
He said no such thing, the dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that" and Zimmerman said "OK"'. doc03 Apr 2012 #36
You still have not answered everyones other points Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #39
sickened marshall gaines Apr 2012 #51
Yes he chased the kid through a few yards and shot him in the back. Rex Apr 2012 #32
Oh now he shot him in the back, that's news n/t doc03 Apr 2012 #37
Ok abelenkpe Apr 2012 #44
no!!!! marshall gaines Apr 2012 #52
do you truly believe pretending you have a point will actually make it so? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #57
Here abelenkpe Apr 2012 #43
What he says here suggests he still plans on following Trayvon Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #47
That just occurred to me, too. LAGC Apr 2012 #118
He also told the police to call him when they got to the neighborhood. nclib Apr 2012 #50
Yea Zimmerman answered yes to "Are you following him?" You conveniently leave doc03 Apr 2012 #53
You know that "then we find out" isnt proof? You should supply links rhett o rick Apr 2012 #87
Interesting how you convienently ignore so much of the story to make Zimmerman appear innocent. SmellyFeet Apr 2012 #117
Absolutely pitiful! EOTE Apr 2012 #163
excellent marshall gaines Apr 2012 #54
lol.... yuh fascisthunter Apr 2012 #56
But you have to get into the mind of a Zimmerman defender. Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #8
Yep. Black folks are allowed to stand up for themselves and get all uppity, doncha know. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #19
Apparently a 27 year old with a history of violence and disregarding the law Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #38
excellent! Carolina Apr 2012 #49
Thanks Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #79
Dude! Cosmocat Apr 2012 #104
Quixote1818 and Carolina brush Apr 2012 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Apr 2012 #113
Quixote1818 kpete Apr 2012 #170
"No one." Absolutely. right. on. patrice Apr 2012 #20
+1 99 Percent Sure Apr 2012 #25
K&R n/t myrna minx Apr 2012 #31
and another. (nt) enough Apr 2012 #34
I have to disagree stupidicus Apr 2012 #35
I always want to believe that I can not longer be surprised Cosmocat Apr 2012 #105
I'll assume you meant stupidicus Apr 2012 #138
Yeah Cosmocat Apr 2012 #179
Agreed wholeheartedly relayerbob Apr 2012 #40
It's called subject Apr 2012 #41
No, wait -- you only get to stand your ground if you have a gun in your hand! pnwmom Apr 2012 #45
No doubt that "Zimmerman's actions launched the whole sequence of events." Vattel Apr 2012 #46
All Zimmerman had to do was stay in his SUV and no one would have died. A Simple Game Apr 2012 #60
Zimmy got a loaded gun shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #71
k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #48
One thing obvious here if most of you all were called for jury duty on this doc03 Apr 2012 #55
really... it took a thread to make you feel that way?! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #58
I hope marshall gaines Apr 2012 #59
We're being unfair? caseymoz Apr 2012 #74
Seeing as the moron stalked and executed a kid minding his own business Cosmocat Apr 2012 #106
This cold-blooded murder could have been prevented... liberalmuse Apr 2012 #65
Let's face it, SYG is an Old West throwback. caseymoz Apr 2012 #72
Yes. It's the crux of the whole "SYG" problem. DirkGently Apr 2012 #73
Sounds like subject Apr 2012 #76
No reason it couldn't work that way. Provoke a confrontation. Get response. Fire. (nt) DirkGently Apr 2012 #78
Someone here mentioned it, and I think it is at the heart Cosmocat Apr 2012 #107
Thus the emphasis on "who" has a weapon, vs. what, where, how, etc. DirkGently Apr 2012 #172
kpete, I'm saddened that someone of your stature here Skip Intro Apr 2012 #75
Take away the death and the fight and lets just look at how it all started Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #88
How is following someone down a street different than tapping your phone sans warrant?!? Seriously?? X_Digger Apr 2012 #90
I agree it's not against the law to follow someone Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #92
It's morally reprehensible to profile, yes. X_Digger Apr 2012 #94
You are right that it shouldn't be put on par with tapping your neighbor's phone. Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #96
The jury will have to decide whether following Trayvon was an aggressive JDPriestly Apr 2012 #102
There is generally nothing illegal about following and verbally confronting a person. X_Digger Apr 2012 #124
It might or might not be illegal depending on the circumstances. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #161
What would be the purported charge (for following and confronting)? X_Digger Apr 2012 #162
There would not be any charge if there had not been a fight, an assault or in this case, a killing. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #176
How can calling people that are defending Zimmerman's behavior "Zimmerman defenders" rhett o rick Apr 2012 #89
Defend people who stalk, pursue and gun down unarmed teenagers...get called out Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #91
Indeed. And, chervilant Apr 2012 #139
Being stalked and pursued The Wizard Apr 2012 #80
Psst. Stand your ground only applies to guns. The gun has a right to stand its ground McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #83
Actually, you're right. If he broke Zimmerman's neck no one would claim SYG. Kablooie Apr 2012 #100
A person generally doesn't legally have the right to take a swing at someone following them, no. X_Digger Apr 2012 #84
Stand your ground does give you the right to swing at someone you think is a threat Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #93
Only what a reasonable person would consider a threat. X_Digger Apr 2012 #95
I would think that would depend on the perception of the person who is being followed Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #97
I'm talking about the legal standard.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #98
What if Trayvon had been a female walking alone at night and followed and approached polly7 Apr 2012 #99
Had Zimmerman grabbed her, yes. That would be justified. X_Digger Apr 2012 #128
Really?? polly7 Apr 2012 #134
You being in terror is not justification, legally, no. X_Digger Apr 2012 #137
Why are you making shit up that didn't happen? nt. polly7 Apr 2012 #140
We're already off in hypothetical land (your post #99) X_Digger Apr 2012 #141
My hypothetical didn't descend into yuk-yuk land. nt. polly7 Apr 2012 #144
No, you wanted to spin a hypothetical that works for you. X_Digger Apr 2012 #146
Do you really believe anyone terrified by a stalking, threatening nutcase with a gun would polly7 Apr 2012 #148
Now you add 'threatening with a gun'.. don't move those goalposts. X_Digger Apr 2012 #149
No, if you're going to use force to defend yourself, all you really have to know at the polly7 Apr 2012 #152
You're assuming the gun was out at the time? That doesn't fit any narrative presented so far. X_Digger Apr 2012 #153
This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Apr 2012 #171
Believe it or not, as humans, we are expected SATIRical Apr 2012 #165
What?!? chervilant Apr 2012 #142
PS chervilant Apr 2012 #143
If you don't want to understand self-defense justification, feel free to ignore. X_Digger Apr 2012 #147
How Did Martin Know It Wasn't A Ped/Rapist Following Him In The Night? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #122
He didn't. But until Zimmerman did something actually illegal, it doesn't rise to the legal standard X_Digger Apr 2012 #126
We Don't Know What Happened After From The Point Zimmerman Began Stalking Martin DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #130
That's my guess as well (tried to detain Martin). X_Digger Apr 2012 #131
One Scenario Is Zimmerman Tried To Stop Martin But Martin Kept On Walking DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #132
In that scenario, force would be justified, yes. X_Digger Apr 2012 #133
What about the next person Zimmerman confronts MattBaggins Apr 2012 #150
Not legally, no. X_Digger Apr 2012 #151
How about.... Mattylock Apr 2012 #154
If he were brandishing it, that would be a forcible felony. (and justification for deadly force) X_Digger Apr 2012 #155
I would bet Mattylock Apr 2012 #156
Possibly, but knowing someone is armed also doesn't make the apprehension 'reasonable'. X_Digger Apr 2012 #157
Has anyone indicated it was on his hip? SATIRical Apr 2012 #167
apparently it was in an inside-the-pants waist holster TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #175
That would depend. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #168
It's the same 'reasonable man' test as before. X_Digger Apr 2012 #169
But in a case like this one in which the facts are uncertain and JDPriestly Apr 2012 #174
Most 'uncertain' cases do in fact go to a jury (or at least a trial).. X_Digger Apr 2012 #180
That's been my take all along ecstatic Apr 2012 #86
I hope this is pounded into the jury onlyadream Apr 2012 #103
Not according to these attorneys who appeared on NPR. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #119
And as far as Zimmerman's "wounds". . annabanana Apr 2012 #127
If some creep had polly7 Apr 2012 #129
"I believe that following someone is NOT standing your ground. It is invading theirs." ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #136
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #145
Brainwashed paradigm: Zimmerman defenders vs. all others just1voice Apr 2012 #160
zimmerman will bond out and there will NEVER be a trial solarman350 Apr 2012 #177
Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence | CSPAN (Video) sfpcjock Apr 2012 #178
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