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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
84. I will stand up and say I disagree!`
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

I was in a sorority and I had many friends who were in Fraternities.

Not all the greeks out there were drunken rape groups. The Greek system is like any other group out there - there's some bad ones out there that make the rest of us look bad. At our college we were all required to do so many hours of community service and keep our grades at a certain level. And although we all did like to party there was little tolerance for shit that was in that article. Even the hint of rape would have landed that group in front of the Dean of Students.

One of the things that my college had done was eliminate the houses, which were one of the more dangerous things and instead we lived in the dorms with everyone else. We were allowed to have a floor specificially for our group and even a lounge area but it was shared with other students who weren't members of our greek. So that did help keep our behavior in line a bit.

Awful shenmue Nov 2014 #1
Phi Kappa Psi suspended all operations today big_dog Nov 2014 #86
That is great news!!! elway7 Nov 2014 #88
I was once a Phi Psi ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #133
"'You have to remember where your loyalty lies.'" BlueJazz Nov 2014 #2
That question really stuck out to me... ReRe Nov 2014 #120
YES! And maybe those after you would not have had horrible things happen to them. BlueJazz Nov 2014 #122
It is unbelievable that these children... lisby Nov 2014 #145
"Never be allowed into any frat party again?" Brigid Nov 2014 #3
In fact that sounds like a feature mythology Nov 2014 #37
I saw that and said "Oh, boo-hoo. Cry me a river." calimary Nov 2014 #95
Some of the comments at RS are deplorable. Total denial of the facts of rape. JanMichael Nov 2014 #116
You make a good point in your second paragraph. truedelphi Nov 2014 #148
There was a promising period through the early sixties to early seventies, when being a G.D.I. maddiemom Nov 2014 #136
Who is their right mind would want to attend a frat party? McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #139
That made me cry Stargazer09 Nov 2014 #4
He's what's called a sociopath and he will probably become a banker or a politician. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #13
Unfortunately zentrum Nov 2014 #19
So the sins of the Fathers continues on. Human consciousness must rise above all forms of attack. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #31
You're Also Not Sure We Would Have ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #59
I'm sorry, but that's not true. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #74
He was a giant zentrum Nov 2014 #85
Not buying it, sorry. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #94
Okey-doke n/t zentrum Nov 2014 #98
OK, Sally Hemmings as Jefferson's slave mistress is historical fact. Even creepier, maddiemom Nov 2014 #137
It's out there, as well as, his extravagant lifestyle and he was constantly in arrears mackerel Nov 2014 #141
"It's out there" OK, but could you refer me to the actual references? maddiemom Nov 2014 #143
"Sometimes, I want off this planet." Same here. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #106
With "friends" like this... Marie Marie Nov 2014 #5
Yeah seriously. Initech Nov 2014 #16
Yes. LWolf Nov 2014 #33
That was my first thought. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #108
This is why the Greek frats need to be shut down. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #6
I agree Dorian Gray Nov 2014 #28
My daughter is attending Mount Holyoke College azmom Nov 2014 #82
It's beautiful up there. Dorian Gray Nov 2014 #103
I find it sad that women are resorting to self-segregation to protect themselves. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #112
My fraternity would never tolerate this sickening behavior. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #29
Nor would mine n/t VWolf Nov 2014 #56
At least they wouldn't carry an implied endorsement by the University ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2014 #66
The university needs to be more accountable RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #75
It's probably less likely to occur at a dorm than a frat house SoCalDem Nov 2014 #71
The uni needs to be held more accountable RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #73
The media in Calif. constantly reports on students who have won large truedelphi Nov 2014 #146
Don't put money on that. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2014 #79
When I was in college I was raped by an athlete. xmas74 Nov 2014 #117
Nor would the fraternity I work for. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #155
That won't solve anything - and it punishes the vast majority of kids LeftinOH Nov 2014 #34
The sports houses RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #77
That's both an overreaction and won't solve the problem mythology Nov 2014 #39
If I were a woman I'd never date or marry any man who is in or had been in a frat. L0oniX Nov 2014 #43
My wife did VWolf Nov 2014 #57
Would you be able to tell? nt. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #78
On many campuses ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #134
I will stand up and say I disagree!` LynneSin Nov 2014 #84
I think your last paragraph is a good comprise solution! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #100
As I read the article . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #114
I have to agree LynneSin Nov 2014 #119
My college had no fraternities or sororities . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #121
Oops? maced666 Dec 2014 #154
ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! uppityperson Nov 2014 #7
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Back so soon? hrmjustin May 2015 #163
I saw that one. In_The_Wind May 2015 #164
Hopefully otto will get it next time. hrmjustin May 2015 #165
It seems like they love to drop in around the MIRT change over. In_The_Wind May 2015 #166
The attitude of her "friends" are why it continues... Spazito Nov 2014 #8
yet people talk shit about black people in ferguson protesting. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #9
UGH! sakabatou Nov 2014 #10
That university should be shut down Beaverhausen Nov 2014 #11
Does anybody else think it's weird that there's more criticism here for the three friends LeftyMom Nov 2014 #12
No, condemnation of the 7 putrid rapists is a given... Spazito Nov 2014 #15
In this culture I'm not at all convinced it's a given. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #17
The culture won't change if the continued cover-ups are accepted... Spazito Nov 2014 #20
That argument only works if anything gets done after the reports, LeftyMom Nov 2014 #21
You're advocating a rape victim not report the rape? Spazito Nov 2014 #22
I don't think that's what she said derby378 Nov 2014 #50
If only the poster had posted what you did... Spazito Nov 2014 #55
Not even remotely, chervilant Nov 2014 #102
The sequence of discussion went as follows... Spazito Nov 2014 #105
And I quote: chervilant Nov 2014 #107
That was how the post came across... Spazito Nov 2014 #111
I agree with what you're saying here. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #24
Spazito, that is how I view it also. truedelphi Nov 2014 #147
I completely agree with you... Spazito Nov 2014 #149
Because in general I expect more of a random friend mythology Nov 2014 #40
yep Locrian Nov 2014 #44
Thanks for posting, kpete. You stand up for us when very few will. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #14
I hope the federal investigation... NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #18
Jackie needs new friends. n/t FourScore Nov 2014 #23
Today I have told all the college aged kids I know: stay away from UVA Tsiyu Nov 2014 #25
VILE woman. That one then, and this one now. calimary Nov 2014 #96
Agreed Tsiyu Nov 2014 #124
EGG maced666 Dec 2014 #158
Because some of her "friends" Tsiyu Dec 2014 #159
Greek life is disgusting... Oktober Nov 2014 #26
I only went to one frat party Warpy Nov 2014 #27
I remember frat parties - they kept giving me beer to get me drunk hollysmom Nov 2014 #126
I drank a lot of beer as a kid Warpy Nov 2014 #129
It is? You must have intimate knowledge of this to make LeftinOH Nov 2014 #35
Are you suggesting that one would have to belong to a subset of a larger group.. Oktober Nov 2014 #38
Except the kkk is an organization based on hate mythology Nov 2014 #41
I'm sure they would suggest that they are based on pride and preservation.. Oktober Nov 2014 #42
The KKK is pretty clear about what they stand for (and against); LeftinOH Nov 2014 #47
Lighten up... Oktober Nov 2014 #49
Wow - you were just told to lighten up. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #53
Except those organizations do NOT promote those things. At all. LeftinOH Nov 2014 #58
Not every greek fraternity promotes sexual assualt. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #80
Wow... chervilant Nov 2014 #89
K... Oktober Nov 2014 #90
That's rape culture, not the Greek system. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #157
College fraternities and sororities aren't the fucking KKK. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #156
Incredibly disturbing read. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #30
Read any of the many Cosby threads and you'll see people condemning his accusers for not Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #32
Awful. progressoid Nov 2014 #36
People have to learn that institutions of all sorts will cover up hedgehog Nov 2014 #45
k and r. I would say, I think I am going to be ill--but, sadly, what is reported there is nothing niyad Nov 2014 #46
It's not just UVA, FSU did the same. lark Nov 2014 #48
Reading this Rolling Stone article makes me really angry. Jenoch Nov 2014 #51
I know this happens, I just don't understand those folks who treat rape victims like this. stevenleser Nov 2014 #52
Oh, FFS! VA_Jill Nov 2014 #54
University President Teresa Sullivan requests Phi Kappa Psi Investigation mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2014 #60
sexual misconduct? what a pleasant little term for gang rape. niyad Nov 2014 #62
Shameful. salin Nov 2014 #67
The dirty little secret is that sexual misconduct happens at EVERY college SoCalDem Nov 2014 #70
One of the first steps we can take chervilant Nov 2014 #101
whatever you call it, it is (and always has been) pretty common on campuses SoCalDem Nov 2014 #118
My post herein above chervilant Nov 2014 #123
Her Judas friends are disgusting cowards LittleBlue Nov 2014 #61
Ironic but True: Ken Cuccinelli worked to combat sexual assault at UVa mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2014 #63
So sad that even she still blames herself... Whiskeytide Nov 2014 #64
Remorse and regret are not the same as blame ... nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2014 #68
You're dead wrong in this... Whiskeytide Nov 2014 #87
Then her "friends" are miserable, selfish shitsacks. Arkana Nov 2014 #65
This. ^^^^^^ calimary Nov 2014 #97
No more invites to frat parties = A fate worse than death. Not talking about rape = Loyalty. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #69
What a damn shame. Is campus life *that* fuckin' important...... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #72
UVa asks police to investigate gang-rape allegations outlined in Rolling Stone article mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2014 #76
This is not the first time around for that fraternity. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2014 #81
Why isn't it 'They were the boys who committed rape and that's why we had to ban frat houses' LynneSin Nov 2014 #83
That's a fair compromise Tsiyu Nov 2014 #125
Some eye opening stats in there shaayecanaan Nov 2014 #91
I'm sure I'm wasting my breath, but the point is that the serial sex offenders seem normal. Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #92
I completely agree shaayecanaan Nov 2014 #93
Yes d_r Nov 2014 #99
If the rapists all looked like wild eyes villains yardwork Nov 2014 #109
kick. nt cwydro Nov 2014 #104
Read this article earlier today . . .. markpkessinger Nov 2014 #110
This was near the start of Jackie's first year. freedom fighter jh Nov 2014 #144
Disgusting pigs! BeanMusical Nov 2014 #113
Dude GummyBearz Nov 2014 #115
pretty typical tho. redruddyred Nov 2014 #127
How hard can it be to get a criminal conviction with 7 rapists? Ash_F Nov 2014 #128
Nice best friends she had... :( Helen Borg Nov 2014 #130
School 'loyalty?' blackspade Nov 2014 #131
Cavalier Daily, Friday. Many links. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2014 #132
Thanks for posting this... Spazito Nov 2014 #135
I've told all three of my kids that in my opinion it is best to stay away from mackerel Nov 2014 #138
Better yet, attend a college that does not allow frats or sororities. I did. McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #140
That would be ideal. mackerel Nov 2014 #142
Class of '78... chervilant Nov 2014 #151
Kind of chills the bone iandhr Nov 2014 #150
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #152
A lot of people were fooled. Look really foolish now. maced666 Dec 2014 #153
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