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34. No, we don't have gridlocked democracy. We have united oligarchy.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:53 AM
Nov 2014

We have united oligarchy.

That's what the Princeton study revealed. We have corporate money flooding both sides of the aisle in Washington and corrupting the direction of both major parties, to the point that citizens have no impact on policy anymore.


Voters didn't *choose* Republican or corporate policy. They stopped voting, or voted in protest for the party out of power, because they perceive that the policies don't change anymore no matter which party is elected. And they are right, as research and reality show. We don't have a functioning democracy. A monied elite is driving our policy at this point, and the people have no impact on its direction. That's why we see this:

Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
TISA corporate overlord agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks? Both parties support it.
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Privatization of the TVA? Both parties support it.
Immunity for telecoms? Both parties support it.
"Looking forward" and letting war criminals off the hook? Both parties support it.
Deciding torturers are patriots? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Trillion dollar increase in nuclear weapons. Both parties support it.
New war in Iraq. Both parties support it.
New war in Syria. Both parties support it.
Carpet bombing of captive population in Gaza. Both parties support it.


"Hold the line if you cannot make gains" is a Third Way, corporate talking point to encourage passivity. We don't need lowered expectations. We need a national movement to demand fundamental change and restoration of our democracy.


Ignore Third Way Talking Points and Spin
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025767160


I agree with that. bravenak Nov 2014 #1
Someone asked if there should be a litmus test Kalidurga Nov 2014 #2
If the best the Democrats can offer, imthevicar Nov 2014 #3
+1 The Third Way and corporate propaganda work very hard to normalize that low expectation. woo me with science Nov 2014 #38
When you demand and accomplish getting corporate money out of politics Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #52
Why.....that would mean no TPP. That would mean preserving Social Security and Medicare. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #4
the top item on my agenda is someone who is not wholly in thrall to cali Nov 2014 #5
We shouldn't be satisfied bvf Nov 2014 #6
Thank you. woo me with science Nov 2014 #9
pleas public servant dont fuck us over too much elehhhhna Nov 2014 #16
No lost ground for kids? Helen Borg Nov 2014 #7
+1 N/T UglyGreed Nov 2014 #15
Damn it, NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. woo me with science Nov 2014 #8
Obviously we need gains. But we haven't even been able to count on our past Dem presidents Ken Burch Nov 2014 #11
We don't have a minor problem in this country. woo me with science Nov 2014 #13
No lost ground for slowing climate change. Chemisse Nov 2014 #10
glad Obama doesn't think like that arely staircase Nov 2014 #12
Your strategy is purely defensive we need to be on the offensive if we want to win IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #14
+10000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #17
Sure a peaceful revolution would be dandy but using history IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #19
Money out of politics. woo me with science Nov 2014 #20
Getting money out of politics would be nice but unless the people can get it on IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #21
Third Way blase. woo me with science Nov 2014 #22
Just stating a simple fact, we have to fight and demand that it gets put on the ballot IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #23
No, negativity is not a "fact." It's an attitude woo me with science Nov 2014 #25
The people are not pissed off enough to demand change, by voting for the GOP this time IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #30
Ignore Third Way blase. Ignore Third Way manipulation and talking points. woo me with science Nov 2014 #32
Weak Sauce. Progress has to be made constantly on all of those human rights fronts Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #18
but to hell with the economic inequality? You don't seem to give a damn about that cali Nov 2014 #24
The OP's list included worker and poverty issues, those are among the human rights I spoke of. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #43
Yes but shouldn't we ask for gains as well? I think so. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #26
I just assumed that was a given. Whoever is elected will rmember that they are creating their jwirr Nov 2014 #37
Bernie Sanders randys1 Nov 2014 #27
We have had a divided government (not under total control of either party) since 2008 and that has jwirr Nov 2014 #28
No, we don't have gridlocked democracy. We have united oligarchy. woo me with science Nov 2014 #34
At the age of 73 I have seen many divided governments - the one that comes to mind for me is jwirr Nov 2014 #36
Restoring democracy. woo me with science Nov 2014 #39
Fine you have it your way. I am one of the poor on DU and I know that the two parties are NOT the jwirr Nov 2014 #40
I certainly hope we can all agree to that small list of things. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #29
+1 That list should be a given. woo me with science Nov 2014 #35
Protect the social safety net. NO privatization of medicare or Social Security peacebird Nov 2014 #31
Holding steady in oppressive oligarchy is not enough. Promising not to hurt us is not enough. woo me with science Nov 2014 #33
I didn't say ANY of this was "enough"...just the least we should expect. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #51
And I'm not so sure that I'm willing to settle for those. 99Forever Nov 2014 #41
+10000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #42
I'll agree if you'll add two more things. LWolf Nov 2014 #44
Well, somehow I doubt woo me with science Nov 2014 #45
And that's the key, isn't it? LWolf Nov 2014 #47
+100000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #49
Sort of Dream Forever Nov 2014 #46
I didn't say we should ONLY want to not lose ground. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #50
Bernie it is then. mmonk Nov 2014 #48
He doesnt always vote in the best interest of the USA. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #53
ROFL! woo me with science Nov 2014 #54
Have fun rolling, facts are facts. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #55
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