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33. Holding steady in oppressive oligarchy is not enough. Promising not to hurt us is not enough.

Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:39 AM

Nov 2014

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Those should be GIVENS, not the big sell.

"Don't hurt us more" is what we have been trained to accept as good enough from our candidates. That's malignant messaging from oligarchs.

We need a strong movement to demand *restoration* of our democracy and *reversal* of the looting that has taken place, not just promises to curb new assaults. Fundamental movement to restore a government of, by, and for people rather than corporations.

How propaganda works to change our expectations of the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022033331

[font size=3]Oligarchy ends when we demand corporate money out of politics, and not before.[/font size]

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Would you agree with what I've posted here, or not? [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2014 OP

I agree with that. bravenak Nov 2014 #1

Someone asked if there should be a litmus test Kalidurga Nov 2014 #2

If the best the Democrats can offer, imthevicar Nov 2014 #3

+1 The Third Way and corporate propaganda work very hard to normalize that low expectation. woo me with science Nov 2014 #38

When you demand and accomplish getting corporate money out of politics Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #52

Why.....that would mean no TPP. That would mean preserving Social Security and Medicare. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #4

the top item on my agenda is someone who is not wholly in thrall to cali Nov 2014 #5

We shouldn't be satisfied bvf Nov 2014 #6

Thank you. woo me with science Nov 2014 #9

pleas public servant dont fuck us over too much elehhhhna Nov 2014 #16

No lost ground for kids? Helen Borg Nov 2014 #7

+1 N/T UglyGreed Nov 2014 #15

Damn it, NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. woo me with science Nov 2014 #8

Obviously we need gains. But we haven't even been able to count on our past Dem presidents Ken Burch Nov 2014 #11

We don't have a minor problem in this country. woo me with science Nov 2014 #13

No lost ground for slowing climate change. Chemisse Nov 2014 #10

glad Obama doesn't think like that arely staircase Nov 2014 #12

Your strategy is purely defensive we need to be on the offensive if we want to win IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #14

+10000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #17

Sure a peaceful revolution would be dandy but using history IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #19

Money out of politics. woo me with science Nov 2014 #20

Getting money out of politics would be nice but unless the people can get it on IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #21

Third Way blase. woo me with science Nov 2014 #22

Just stating a simple fact, we have to fight and demand that it gets put on the ballot IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #23

No, negativity is not a "fact." It's an attitude woo me with science Nov 2014 #25

The people are not pissed off enough to demand change, by voting for the GOP this time IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #30

Ignore Third Way blase. Ignore Third Way manipulation and talking points. woo me with science Nov 2014 #32

Weak Sauce. Progress has to be made constantly on all of those human rights fronts Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #18

but to hell with the economic inequality? You don't seem to give a damn about that cali Nov 2014 #24

The OP's list included worker and poverty issues, those are among the human rights I spoke of. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #43

Yes but shouldn't we ask for gains as well? I think so. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #26

I just assumed that was a given. Whoever is elected will rmember that they are creating their jwirr Nov 2014 #37

Bernie Sanders randys1 Nov 2014 #27

We have had a divided government (not under total control of either party) since 2008 and that has jwirr Nov 2014 #28

No, we don't have gridlocked democracy. We have united oligarchy. woo me with science Nov 2014 #34

At the age of 73 I have seen many divided governments - the one that comes to mind for me is jwirr Nov 2014 #36

Restoring democracy. woo me with science Nov 2014 #39

Fine you have it your way. I am one of the poor on DU and I know that the two parties are NOT the jwirr Nov 2014 #40

I certainly hope we can all agree to that small list of things. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #29

+1 That list should be a given. woo me with science Nov 2014 #35

Protect the social safety net. NO privatization of medicare or Social Security peacebird Nov 2014 #31

Holding steady in oppressive oligarchy is not enough. Promising not to hurt us is not enough. woo me with science Nov 2014 #33

I didn't say ANY of this was "enough"...just the least we should expect. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #51

And I'm not so sure that I'm willing to settle for those. 99Forever Nov 2014 #41

+10000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #42

I'll agree if you'll add two more things. LWolf Nov 2014 #44

Well, somehow I doubt woo me with science Nov 2014 #45

And that's the key, isn't it? LWolf Nov 2014 #47

+100000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #49

Sort of Dream Forever Nov 2014 #46

I didn't say we should ONLY want to not lose ground. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #50

Bernie it is then. mmonk Nov 2014 #48

He doesnt always vote in the best interest of the USA. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #53

ROFL! woo me with science Nov 2014 #54

Have fun rolling, facts are facts. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #55