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Woman who had contact with Ebola victims quarantined after Newark landing - UPDATE below [View all] B2G Oct 2014 OP

More here B2G Oct 2014 #1

You know, I don't agree with Christie on pretty much anything that he says, woodsprite Oct 2014 #2

Not one person has been infected in the US outside morningfog Oct 2014 #5

What this quarantine will do is prevent the need for a much larger quarantine in the event pnwmom Oct 2014 #96

she is stuck in a room. has none of her stuff. one granola bar and water. no information. seabeyond Oct 2014 #97

They can get her what she needs. This is no different from quarantines when I was growing up, pnwmom Oct 2014 #98

How do people make a living Texasgal Oct 2014 #109

What were they doing about those things while they were in Africa? n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #117

Uh, maybe they had family and friends? Texasgal Oct 2014 #119

And they have family and friends to help them while they're in quarantine,in addition pnwmom Oct 2014 #123

Financially? Texasgal Oct 2014 #126

By quarantining this one woman, they'll avoid quarantine for all her contacts, in case pnwmom Oct 2014 #128

You are still avoiding the question. Texasgal Oct 2014 #129

How do we pay for the costs of contact-tracing for those people who walk around pnwmom Oct 2014 #130

Your posts reminds me of communist China. Texasgal Oct 2014 #132

You can't answer the related question. Who should pay for the costs of the contact tracing when an pnwmom Oct 2014 #134

jesus.. this is NOT scarlet fever! Texasgal Oct 2014 #140

My friend didn't get Scarlet Fever, either, even though her family was quarantined pnwmom Oct 2014 #174

Same thing they did during the quarantines of the fifties. They made do. pnwmom Oct 2014 #120

Oh yes. That'll work. Texasgal Oct 2014 #125

Public health is at issue. And 21 days is not that long. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #177

then, all medical staff in u.s. dealing with ebola goes into quarantine. ems, and other supportive seabeyond Oct 2014 #186

Which would also be unecessary. Bad call. morningfog Oct 2014 #161

First, CDC standards have been updated Warpy Oct 2014 #70

That is one of the best posts I've seen on this, thank you."People coming from the hot zones know.." uppityperson Oct 2014 #71

Mr. Duncan came from a hot zone TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #100

You are making shit up about Mr. Duncan... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #105

what's made up shit? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #121

This part... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #127

He did tell them he came from Liberia. He didn't tell them he carried a dying Ebola patient pnwmom Oct 2014 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Oct 2014 #135

I didn't say that. Someone else did.n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #136

My apologies, I got you and torch the witch mixed up. sorry. nt uppityperson Oct 2014 #138

and you know this how? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #159

I am so glad that you have it all figured out. malokvale77 Oct 2014 #163

That is why he sought treatment including he came from Liberia. He didn't know she had died of ebola uppityperson Oct 2014 #113

How did the family find out then that she had died? She died while he was still in the country pnwmom Oct 2014 #133

Her family knew she'd died when they saw her dead body. uppityperson Oct 2014 #137

Uh-huh. And they didn't notice all the Ebola symptoms she no doubt had? Hard to believe, pnwmom Oct 2014 #139

They said they thought it was pregnancy complications. People dying don't all bleed all over the uppityperson Oct 2014 #141

Do you have any clue how many tropical... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #154

Nearly everything you say is incorrect. Nt Logical Oct 2014 #173

he did not tell the hospital that he suspected he had Ebola TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #148

He told them he came from Liberia. He did not know he had carried a woman with ebola. uppityperson Oct 2014 #155

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What better way to make sure no one goes to help in West Africa. dilby Oct 2014 #3

It's a reactionary, fear-based decision. morningfog Oct 2014 #6

Yes. Politicians seeking votes. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #8

I know, it's to make soccer moms feel safe. dilby Oct 2014 #9

It will lead to people not going to help and lying morningfog Oct 2014 #10

lying upon entry, is what i went to immediately. have a stupid nonsensical rule, and seabeyond Oct 2014 #11

Hard to lie about a passport stamped with Liberia and the date AngryAmish Oct 2014 #180

The passport says nothing on what the person did. morningfog Oct 2014 #190

Know your own history: For 20 years, until 2010, the US imposed a travel ban on visitors with HIV Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #68

WTF, I never knew about that azmom Oct 2014 #78

That is not even an apples to apples comparison. dilby Oct 2014 #192

No more reactionary than quarantines against Scarlet Fever or Polio when I was growing up. pnwmom Oct 2014 #99

Really. This policy wouldn't have caught Mr. Duncan mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #7

It would have. Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #162

Not from my reading. This refers to the State of NJ and State of NY. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #168

I thought you meant if he had been subject to the new regulations in NY and NJ. Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #170

How does this stop aid from going to the affected areas? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #12

The 21 day unpaid vacation upon return. dilby Oct 2014 #14

You mean, like if I was a doctor who could leave my private practice to do internat'l charity work? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #15

Which you probably did during your paid vacation. dilby Oct 2014 #16

They are not supposed to back to work for 21 days anyway. LisaL Oct 2014 #17

"Paid vacation"? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #18

Dr. Spencer was already not working on his return magical thyme Oct 2014 #29

Yes. They are not working anyway. MSF is paying them for 21 days. LisaL Oct 2014 #39

Yep! Only way to make it palatable is to pay Tumbulu Oct 2014 #158

Good. Someone who had contact with Ebola victims should be quarantined. LisaL Oct 2014 #4

How many people in the US have been infected by morningfog Oct 2014 #21

Well, we only had few patients so far. LisaL Oct 2014 #23

So, zero is the correct answer. You have nothing morningfog Oct 2014 #24

I thought you promised to put me on ignore? LisaL Oct 2014 #27

I'll take that as a confirmation that you have no evidence that self monitoring is morningfog Oct 2014 #164

I thought about it. But too entertaining reading your rants about your Ebola expertise. nt Logical Oct 2014 #185

True. polichick Oct 2014 #153

LOL, well working pretty damn well so far. Do more reading! nt Logical Oct 2014 #184

Stupid gwheezie Oct 2014 #13

It is only going to hurt efforts to contain it. morningfog Oct 2014 #19

point. so al those taking care of ebola victims here in the u.s., must self quarantine after what? seabeyond Oct 2014 #20

After two nursed got infected, they are considered at risk. LisaL Oct 2014 #22

yes. which is different from taking them off the job and quarantining them for 21 days. how would seabeyond Oct 2014 #25

They can take care of Ebola patient but not of other patients. LisaL Oct 2014 #28

Can they get on a bus? gwheezie Oct 2014 #32

then what? then they go among the public. so, per this new rule, they should not be allowed. seabeyond Oct 2014 #35

Are they quarantined gwheezie Oct 2014 #26

we are gonna go thru the medical staff awfully quickly, and the janitors and other supportive roles. seabeyond Oct 2014 #31

I think we need to at least be consistent gwheezie Oct 2014 #40

We all saw that people on self-monitoring are not keeping at home. LisaL Oct 2014 #41

Ok so back to my question gwheezie Oct 2014 #44

Do what nigeria did gwheezie Oct 2014 #82

Since Dr Spencer caught himself before he became contagious, before his temp hit reporting level, it uppityperson Oct 2014 #142

Yet kit one infection ever from a self-monitoring person. morningfog Oct 2014 #169

Is it just me gwheezie Oct 2014 #30

absolutely. makes absolutely not a bit of fuckin sense. but, hey, if it appeases the masses, seabeyond Oct 2014 #33

I guess they figure hospitals aren't short-staffed enough yet. magical thyme Oct 2014 #34

But they are not following protocol davidn3600 Oct 2014 #36

so, you want to lock up all caregivers to ebola victim. right? what, after one shift? lock them up? seabeyond Oct 2014 #37

Who can afford 21 days without pay? Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #38

true. but, for those that would prefer to ignore facts and be fearful, that seems to be what they seabeyond Oct 2014 #48

ok, what's your solution? ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #43

"since it has been shown...seem not to care"? Where, when has that "been shown"? uppityperson Oct 2014 #49

have a fever... travel anyway and act like it's not a fever... ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #61

once again...not one question answered. uppityperson Oct 2014 #63

All three of them self reported gwheezie Oct 2014 #53

and we shall see who's next... ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #60

that is an absurdly false premise. nurses and doctors do not care. bullshit. seabeyond Oct 2014 #54

i asked you your idea ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #58

the answer is what has worked so far. so i ask you. one shift and we quarantine medical staff for seabeyond Oct 2014 #62

"since it has been shown that both nurses and doctors, after having been exposed, seem to not care"? uppityperson Oct 2014 #66

They probably know more about it then almost anyone on the planet. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #104

Yeah, because all these doctors and nurses running around Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #182

Your best post ever. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #72

We've already had troops return gwheezie Oct 2014 #84

quarantine them all. the huggers and kissers, and the ones that came home. without pay. i am sure seabeyond Oct 2014 #85

Quarantine ALL medical personnel who treat Ebola cases in the US kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #88

or, we have to conclude, it is just downright, ugly ass, bigotry at work here. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #91

Yep. I think we both know they are assuming the only people who ever come from kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #93

Yep, because they HAD NO CONTACT WITH PEOPLE ILL WITH EBOLA. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #87

Sorry it wasn't what I meant gwheezie Oct 2014 #90

Yes, you are right... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #116

Some here don't seem to understand the difference... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #146

Then do what nigeria did gwheezie Oct 2014 #42

Give us a link showing either of those happened. No link, no proof, just words. uppityperson Oct 2014 #45

"They" did follow the protocol at the time Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #179

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Don't let facts get in the way of hyperbole. n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #166

Smarter at assuaging irrational fear to gain political points? Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #183

The woman has developed a fever. Looks smart now! hrmjustin Oct 2014 #101

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Spreading the risk? Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #188

What is their definition of 'quarantine'? Locked in a hospital room? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #47

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What was that quarantine? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #55

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OK, so they were still in their own homes. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #65

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The reports above say the woman being quarantined was wearing protective clothing muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #81

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No, it is the same thing - they are going to quarantine anyone who treated a patient at any stage muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #178

All the people working in the hospital caring for an ebola patient will need forced quarantine too? uppityperson Oct 2014 #67

lets not forget those that transport the patient. ems. cops, .... all. 21 days, no pay. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #69

And who pays for this FORCED quarantine? blackspade Oct 2014 #171

are you quarantining all medical help dealing with ebola in the u.s.? if not, why? nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #59

yes. AngryAmish Oct 2014 #181

wow. fuck rights and needs for hysteria. well. at least you are the very first to stop the hypocrisy seabeyond Oct 2014 #187

That family was under armed guard. Are you seriously suggesting VIRTUAL IMPRISONMENT kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #74

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They had sheriff's deputies posted to ensure they didn't break isolation again. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #86

They're holding the msf nurse at Newark airport gwheezie Oct 2014 #89

and there she sits. cause the more a thinking person plays this out, the more STUPID it is. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #92

The deputies posted to make sure they didn't break quarantine weren't armed or guards? huh uppityperson Oct 2014 #144

Please stop insulting humanity by calling your bad arguments "common sense". Thanks. n/t Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #189

So, what lockdown facility is she being held in? Or do they just have armed guards at kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #51

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that would hold to anyone "among those afflicted with this horrible disease" here, too, right? seabeyond Oct 2014 #64

Where and when did you get your PhD in epidemiology? kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #77

What if one works at Bellevue? gwheezie Oct 2014 #79

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Are you serious? malokvale77 Oct 2014 #122

She's an msf nurse being held at Newark airport gwheezie Oct 2014 #73

Unbelievable Marrah_G Oct 2014 #95

So stupid. I can't believe the fear mongering... riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #80

this country is ruled by fear and ignorance. neverforget Oct 2014 #83

The soman has just developed a fever. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #103

Seems they are reacting to fear KMOD Oct 2014 #94

The woman has developed a fever according to msnbc. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #102

She's a nurse, who worked with ebola patients. She would have self reported any fever Marrah_G Oct 2014 #106

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Because she is a nurse with the MSF Marrah_G Oct 2014 #149

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Takes a few days to go from the low grade fever to the vomiting, bleeding and diarrhea Marrah_G Oct 2014 #157

I'm not seeing that anywhere. KMOD Oct 2014 #107

Here hrmjustin Oct 2014 #108

Thanks, hrmjustin KMOD Oct 2014 #111

me too. scary stuff. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #112

Thanks...just saw this B2G Oct 2014 #118

YW! hrmjustin Oct 2014 #124

someone just posted it with a link TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #110

The "experts" on this thread 840high Oct 2014 #114

Well there is legit arguments to be made for and against a quarantine. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #115

They can test her for ebola gwheezie Oct 2014 #150

yes- I think they run it a few times over a few days though Marrah_G Oct 2014 #151

here Marrah_G Oct 2014 #152

I wonder if s fever is considered symptomatic gwheezie Oct 2014 #165

The lowgrade fever is a very early symptom. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #167

What a stupid political stunt.... blackspade Oct 2014 #172

AC360 had someone on who spoke with her.....said NO fever with an oral thermometer rainbow4321 Oct 2014 #175

it seems, this is just too convenient this woman ending up with fever. then i read seabeyond Oct 2014 #176

She tested NEGATIVE and is now being held against her will Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #191