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(9,766 posts) Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:04 PM Oct 2014

Woman who had contact with Ebola victims quarantined after Newark landing - UPDATE below [View all]

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It appears the woman has a fever.

http://7online.com/health/passenger-quarantined-after-treating-ebola-patients-in-africa-develops-fever/364779/

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October 24, 2014, 4:02 PM Last updated: Friday, October 24, 2014, 4:55 PM
By SHAWN BOBURG

The governors of New York and New Jersey on Friday announced a mandatory 21-day quarantine for high-risk travelers from West Africa who have had contact with Ebola patients, saying that a woman who arrived at Newark this afternoon has already been isolated.

The two said they are not satisfied with federal guidelines established by the federal Centers of Disease Control.

New Jersey officials have quarantined a woman who arrived at Newark Liberty International Airport from a West African country and reported having had contact with Ebola victims, Governor Christie said. He and New York Gov. Cuomo said that decided to implement a mandatory quarantine in discussions that began on Thursday, when a doctor in New York was diagnosed as having Ebola. He had recently arrived home from Guinea, where he had been treating Ebola patients.

“We’re agreed that quarantine is the right way to go,” Christie said at a press conference on Friday.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/woman-who-had-contact-with-ebola-victims-quarantined-after-newark-landing-1.1117698

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Woman who had contact with Ebola victims quarantined after Newark landing - UPDATE below [View all] B2G Oct 2014 OP

More here B2G Oct 2014 #1

You know, I don't agree with Christie on pretty much anything that he says, woodsprite Oct 2014 #2

Not one person has been infected in the US outside morningfog Oct 2014 #5

What this quarantine will do is prevent the need for a much larger quarantine in the event pnwmom Oct 2014 #96

she is stuck in a room. has none of her stuff. one granola bar and water. no information. seabeyond Oct 2014 #97

They can get her what she needs. This is no different from quarantines when I was growing up, pnwmom Oct 2014 #98

How do people make a living Texasgal Oct 2014 #109

What were they doing about those things while they were in Africa? n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #117

Uh, maybe they had family and friends? Texasgal Oct 2014 #119

And they have family and friends to help them while they're in quarantine,in addition pnwmom Oct 2014 #123

Financially? Texasgal Oct 2014 #126

By quarantining this one woman, they'll avoid quarantine for all her contacts, in case pnwmom Oct 2014 #128

You are still avoiding the question. Texasgal Oct 2014 #129

How do we pay for the costs of contact-tracing for those people who walk around pnwmom Oct 2014 #130

Your posts reminds me of communist China. Texasgal Oct 2014 #132

You can't answer the related question. Who should pay for the costs of the contact tracing when an pnwmom Oct 2014 #134

jesus.. this is NOT scarlet fever! Texasgal Oct 2014 #140

My friend didn't get Scarlet Fever, either, even though her family was quarantined pnwmom Oct 2014 #174

Same thing they did during the quarantines of the fifties. They made do. pnwmom Oct 2014 #120

Oh yes. That'll work. Texasgal Oct 2014 #125

Public health is at issue. And 21 days is not that long. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #177

then, all medical staff in u.s. dealing with ebola goes into quarantine. ems, and other supportive seabeyond Oct 2014 #186

Which would also be unecessary. Bad call. morningfog Oct 2014 #161

First, CDC standards have been updated Warpy Oct 2014 #70

That is one of the best posts I've seen on this, thank you."People coming from the hot zones know.." uppityperson Oct 2014 #71

Mr. Duncan came from a hot zone TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #100

You are making shit up about Mr. Duncan... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #105

what's made up shit? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #121

This part... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #127

He did tell them he came from Liberia. He didn't tell them he carried a dying Ebola patient pnwmom Oct 2014 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Oct 2014 #135

I didn't say that. Someone else did.n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #136

My apologies, I got you and torch the witch mixed up. sorry. nt uppityperson Oct 2014 #138

and you know this how? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #159

I am so glad that you have it all figured out. malokvale77 Oct 2014 #163

That is why he sought treatment including he came from Liberia. He didn't know she had died of ebola uppityperson Oct 2014 #113

How did the family find out then that she had died? She died while he was still in the country pnwmom Oct 2014 #133

Her family knew she'd died when they saw her dead body. uppityperson Oct 2014 #137

Uh-huh. And they didn't notice all the Ebola symptoms she no doubt had? Hard to believe, pnwmom Oct 2014 #139

They said they thought it was pregnancy complications. People dying don't all bleed all over the uppityperson Oct 2014 #141

Do you have any clue how many tropical... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #154

Nearly everything you say is incorrect. Nt Logical Oct 2014 #173

he did not tell the hospital that he suspected he had Ebola TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #148

He told them he came from Liberia. He did not know he had carried a woman with ebola. uppityperson Oct 2014 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #145

What better way to make sure no one goes to help in West Africa. dilby Oct 2014 #3

It's a reactionary, fear-based decision. morningfog Oct 2014 #6

Yes. Politicians seeking votes. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #8

I know, it's to make soccer moms feel safe. dilby Oct 2014 #9

It will lead to people not going to help and lying morningfog Oct 2014 #10

lying upon entry, is what i went to immediately. have a stupid nonsensical rule, and seabeyond Oct 2014 #11

Hard to lie about a passport stamped with Liberia and the date AngryAmish Oct 2014 #180

The passport says nothing on what the person did. morningfog Oct 2014 #190

Know your own history: For 20 years, until 2010, the US imposed a travel ban on visitors with HIV Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #68

WTF, I never knew about that azmom Oct 2014 #78

That is not even an apples to apples comparison. dilby Oct 2014 #192

No more reactionary than quarantines against Scarlet Fever or Polio when I was growing up. pnwmom Oct 2014 #99

Really. This policy wouldn't have caught Mr. Duncan mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #7

It would have. Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #162

Not from my reading. This refers to the State of NJ and State of NY. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #168

I thought you meant if he had been subject to the new regulations in NY and NJ. Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #170

How does this stop aid from going to the affected areas? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #12

The 21 day unpaid vacation upon return. dilby Oct 2014 #14

You mean, like if I was a doctor who could leave my private practice to do internat'l charity work? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #15

Which you probably did during your paid vacation. dilby Oct 2014 #16

They are not supposed to back to work for 21 days anyway. LisaL Oct 2014 #17

"Paid vacation"? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #18

Dr. Spencer was already not working on his return magical thyme Oct 2014 #29

Yes. They are not working anyway. MSF is paying them for 21 days. LisaL Oct 2014 #39

Yep! Only way to make it palatable is to pay Tumbulu Oct 2014 #158

Good. Someone who had contact with Ebola victims should be quarantined. LisaL Oct 2014 #4

How many people in the US have been infected by morningfog Oct 2014 #21

Well, we only had few patients so far. LisaL Oct 2014 #23

So, zero is the correct answer. You have nothing morningfog Oct 2014 #24

I thought you promised to put me on ignore? LisaL Oct 2014 #27

I'll take that as a confirmation that you have no evidence that self monitoring is morningfog Oct 2014 #164

I thought about it. But too entertaining reading your rants about your Ebola expertise. nt Logical Oct 2014 #185

True. polichick Oct 2014 #153

LOL, well working pretty damn well so far. Do more reading! nt Logical Oct 2014 #184

Stupid gwheezie Oct 2014 #13

It is only going to hurt efforts to contain it. morningfog Oct 2014 #19

point. so al those taking care of ebola victims here in the u.s., must self quarantine after what? seabeyond Oct 2014 #20

After two nursed got infected, they are considered at risk. LisaL Oct 2014 #22

yes. which is different from taking them off the job and quarantining them for 21 days. how would seabeyond Oct 2014 #25

They can take care of Ebola patient but not of other patients. LisaL Oct 2014 #28

Can they get on a bus? gwheezie Oct 2014 #32

then what? then they go among the public. so, per this new rule, they should not be allowed. seabeyond Oct 2014 #35

Are they quarantined gwheezie Oct 2014 #26

we are gonna go thru the medical staff awfully quickly, and the janitors and other supportive roles. seabeyond Oct 2014 #31

I think we need to at least be consistent gwheezie Oct 2014 #40

We all saw that people on self-monitoring are not keeping at home. LisaL Oct 2014 #41

Ok so back to my question gwheezie Oct 2014 #44

Do what nigeria did gwheezie Oct 2014 #82

Since Dr Spencer caught himself before he became contagious, before his temp hit reporting level, it uppityperson Oct 2014 #142

Yet kit one infection ever from a self-monitoring person. morningfog Oct 2014 #169

Is it just me gwheezie Oct 2014 #30

absolutely. makes absolutely not a bit of fuckin sense. but, hey, if it appeases the masses, seabeyond Oct 2014 #33

I guess they figure hospitals aren't short-staffed enough yet. magical thyme Oct 2014 #34

But they are not following protocol davidn3600 Oct 2014 #36

so, you want to lock up all caregivers to ebola victim. right? what, after one shift? lock them up? seabeyond Oct 2014 #37

Who can afford 21 days without pay? Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #38

true. but, for those that would prefer to ignore facts and be fearful, that seems to be what they seabeyond Oct 2014 #48

ok, what's your solution? ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #43

"since it has been shown...seem not to care"? Where, when has that "been shown"? uppityperson Oct 2014 #49

have a fever... travel anyway and act like it's not a fever... ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #61

once again...not one question answered. uppityperson Oct 2014 #63

All three of them self reported gwheezie Oct 2014 #53

and we shall see who's next... ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #60

that is an absurdly false premise. nurses and doctors do not care. bullshit. seabeyond Oct 2014 #54

i asked you your idea ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #58

the answer is what has worked so far. so i ask you. one shift and we quarantine medical staff for seabeyond Oct 2014 #62

"since it has been shown that both nurses and doctors, after having been exposed, seem to not care"? uppityperson Oct 2014 #66

They probably know more about it then almost anyone on the planet. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #104

Yeah, because all these doctors and nurses running around Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #182

Your best post ever. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #72

We've already had troops return gwheezie Oct 2014 #84

quarantine them all. the huggers and kissers, and the ones that came home. without pay. i am sure seabeyond Oct 2014 #85

Quarantine ALL medical personnel who treat Ebola cases in the US kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #88

or, we have to conclude, it is just downright, ugly ass, bigotry at work here. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #91

Yep. I think we both know they are assuming the only people who ever come from kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #93

Yep, because they HAD NO CONTACT WITH PEOPLE ILL WITH EBOLA. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #87

Sorry it wasn't what I meant gwheezie Oct 2014 #90

Yes, you are right... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #116

Some here don't seem to understand the difference... malokvale77 Oct 2014 #146

Then do what nigeria did gwheezie Oct 2014 #42

Give us a link showing either of those happened. No link, no proof, just words. uppityperson Oct 2014 #45

"They" did follow the protocol at the time Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #50

Don't let facts get in the way of hyperbole. n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #166

Smarter at assuaging irrational fear to gain political points? Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #183

The woman has developed a fever. Looks smart now! hrmjustin Oct 2014 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #46

Spreading the risk? Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #188

What is their definition of 'quarantine'? Locked in a hospital room? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #52

What was that quarantine? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #56

OK, so they were still in their own homes. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #75

The reports above say the woman being quarantined was wearing protective clothing muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #143

No, it is the same thing - they are going to quarantine anyone who treated a patient at any stage muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #178

All the people working in the hospital caring for an ebola patient will need forced quarantine too? uppityperson Oct 2014 #67

lets not forget those that transport the patient. ems. cops, .... all. 21 days, no pay. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #69

And who pays for this FORCED quarantine? blackspade Oct 2014 #171

are you quarantining all medical help dealing with ebola in the u.s.? if not, why? nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #59

yes. AngryAmish Oct 2014 #181

wow. fuck rights and needs for hysteria. well. at least you are the very first to stop the hypocrisy seabeyond Oct 2014 #187

That family was under armed guard. Are you seriously suggesting VIRTUAL IMPRISONMENT kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #76

They had sheriff's deputies posted to ensure they didn't break isolation again. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #86

They're holding the msf nurse at Newark airport gwheezie Oct 2014 #89

and there she sits. cause the more a thinking person plays this out, the more STUPID it is. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #92

The deputies posted to make sure they didn't break quarantine weren't armed or guards? huh uppityperson Oct 2014 #144

Please stop insulting humanity by calling your bad arguments "common sense". Thanks. n/t Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #189

So, what lockdown facility is she being held in? Or do they just have armed guards at kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #57

that would hold to anyone "among those afflicted with this horrible disease" here, too, right? seabeyond Oct 2014 #64

Where and when did you get your PhD in epidemiology? kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #77

What if one works at Bellevue? gwheezie Oct 2014 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #160

Are you serious? malokvale77 Oct 2014 #122

She's an msf nurse being held at Newark airport gwheezie Oct 2014 #73

Unbelievable Marrah_G Oct 2014 #95

So stupid. I can't believe the fear mongering... riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #80

this country is ruled by fear and ignorance. neverforget Oct 2014 #83

The soman has just developed a fever. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #103

Seems they are reacting to fear KMOD Oct 2014 #94

The woman has developed a fever according to msnbc. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #102

She's a nurse, who worked with ebola patients. She would have self reported any fever Marrah_G Oct 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #147

Because she is a nurse with the MSF Marrah_G Oct 2014 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #156

Takes a few days to go from the low grade fever to the vomiting, bleeding and diarrhea Marrah_G Oct 2014 #157

I'm not seeing that anywhere. KMOD Oct 2014 #107

Here hrmjustin Oct 2014 #108

Thanks, hrmjustin KMOD Oct 2014 #111

me too. scary stuff. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #112

Thanks...just saw this B2G Oct 2014 #118

YW! hrmjustin Oct 2014 #124

someone just posted it with a link TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #110

The "experts" on this thread 840high Oct 2014 #114

Well there is legit arguments to be made for and against a quarantine. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #115

They can test her for ebola gwheezie Oct 2014 #150

yes- I think they run it a few times over a few days though Marrah_G Oct 2014 #151

here Marrah_G Oct 2014 #152

I wonder if s fever is considered symptomatic gwheezie Oct 2014 #165

The lowgrade fever is a very early symptom. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #167

What a stupid political stunt.... blackspade Oct 2014 #172

AC360 had someone on who spoke with her.....said NO fever with an oral thermometer rainbow4321 Oct 2014 #175

it seems, this is just too convenient this woman ending up with fever. then i read seabeyond Oct 2014 #176

She tested NEGATIVE and is now being held against her will Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #191