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Voice for Peace

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109. You certainly have the right and the freedom to call anybody anything.

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:50 AM

Oct 2014

But communication is an art, especially for someone who
has Will's background and reputation; to weigh one's words,
and have some foresight as to their impact and value.

The referenced name-calling post didn't serve any good
purpose that I could see, but it did damage here. To
DU relationships, and Will's reputation, if nothing else.
It wasn't constructive. It didn't help Obama do a better
job.

Gratuitous negativity is never good for anybody, except
the creatures who dwell in darkness and hatred. They
love it, they feed on it.

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"Pack up. Go home. It's done." [View all] WilliamPitt Oct 2014 OP

I agree! it is NOT a constructive way to inspire people Peacetrain Oct 2014 #1

Agree, it's a total fail, actually will de-motivate potential voters. Scuba Oct 2014 #25

I absolutely agree. SoapBox Oct 2014 #28

That's the point, right? They want the GOP in charge. Then they don't have to waste their time makin blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #91

Sure seems that way, but then I'm cynical by nature. Scuba Oct 2014 #96

Are we all certain that these e-mails com from Dems? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #108

Yet still not as spammy as clickbait journalism. nt Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #2

Ever written anything that people paid to read? 11 Bravo Oct 2014 #8

look at that kentucky backwards has the phrase cutnek in it belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #15

Unusually, um, "spunky" for a newbie posting to a long time DUer, no? merrily Oct 2014 #102

I thought clickbait journalism is what you get in ads, for example Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #106

Thanks, 11 Bravo. Bravo!! n/t Duval Oct 2014 #140

You would be advised to hold your horses hifiguy Oct 2014 #21

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #35

You just compared me to a racist making "watermelon" comments WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #52

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #61

Well done~ eom sheshe2 Oct 2014 #67

Helluva dodge there. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #68

My response is not a dodge ... It's directly responsive to your inquiry ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #77

I called it "ad hominem attack by association" & a jury agreed. appal_jack Oct 2014 #82

Props to Juror #7 Number23 Oct 2014 #88

You certainly have the right and the freedom to call anybody anything. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #109

did you call Obama a POS used care salesman? Sheepshank Oct 2014 #83

Yes. Unfortunately true. I wish Will hadn't done that and I expressed my displeasure at the time. calimary Oct 2014 #141

Hahaha!!!!!!!!! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #94

I'm real sensitive to Obama criticism too fadedrose Oct 2014 #89

Oh, please, Of course you did exactly what Pitt says. merrily Oct 2014 #104

k&r stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #105

That could be debated LOL, also, the truthout page- don't click on it- snooper2 Oct 2014 #114

how would someone so new to DU grasswire Oct 2014 #64

shitting on people's posts is no way to go through life, son corkhead Oct 2014 #126

Who'd you use to be? nt Union Scribe Oct 2014 #129

I got the same fucking email! Now I'm fired up! 11 Bravo Oct 2014 #3

How does complaining inspire voters? tridim Oct 2014 #4

"despite the relentless negativity" WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #5

It's fucking marketing, not reality, Will. tridim Oct 2014 #6

See post #9 WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #10

The article is pretty depressing, I must say.. I think the timing isn't great. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #118

"How does complaining inspire voters?" You should be making this comment to the DCCC. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #18

who gives a shit JI7 Oct 2014 #7

It's ridiculous. In just the last few days I've received emails captioned: The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #9

I got one today : "All Hope Is Lost" DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #43

Got that one, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #73

almost like it's theatre. almost, or exactly? elehhhhna Oct 2014 #72

I read or delete my email once a fortnight, whether I need to or not... hunter Oct 2014 #11

Wow. What was the internet like in '79? FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #40

Very small and slow. hunter Oct 2014 #78

you are confusing the Internet with an Intranet FYI snooper2 Oct 2014 #115

No, I'm not. hunter Oct 2014 #124

My computer isn't a computer until it has an Atari 400/800 emulator on it... Systematic Chaos Oct 2014 #127

The email was clearly sarcastic and intended to inflame and anger the receiver to vote, it is not Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #12

It's negative campaigning. We need Democratic candidates to explain to America rhett o rick Oct 2014 #20

Fuck the true democratic values shit, the GOP is as scary as the Nazis and if that is not scary Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #23

I say stand by our values which doesn't include fear based tactics. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #32

You misunderstand. Making people afraid of monsters that are real is not really using fear, it is Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #47

You will end up with both candidates pointing at the other claiming "They're the monster, honest." rhett o rick Oct 2014 #50

But..."The Monsters" are under the bed of both Parties these days... KoKo Oct 2014 #87

Yeah, because emotional manipulation really inspires me to do good things for the manipulator. n/t winter is coming Oct 2014 #63

Why do folks even at DU not get it? Republicans have evil policies in mind, policies of division and Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #65

Then tell the truth and leave it at that. winter is coming Oct 2014 #71

What's wrong with telling the truth? About SS and what the GOP wants to do with it eg? sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #132

So what about "All Hope Is Lost" and "Accept Defeat"? moriah Oct 2014 #162

All they want is money... Blanks Oct 2014 #13

Yep. Cleita Oct 2014 #14

Call me Moron Monty, because I am. MontyPow Oct 2014 #16

Obama Opposition Based On Race Not Policy billhicks76 Oct 2014 #17

^^Bruce Bartlett Points It Out billhicks76 Oct 2014 #19

I amazed at people who claim to be progressive ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #22

How does being progressive relate to managing a spam filter? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #29

The problem: A party we support acts like a bunch of spammers FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #41

Any email like that gets deleted lickety-split. And I've Ilsa Oct 2014 #24

If I'm one of their "best contributors" Shankapotomus Oct 2014 #26

I'm telling myself they're going for black humor. valerief Oct 2014 #27

With thanks to Joss Whedon sarge43 Oct 2014 #30

Gorramn right. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #34

Shiney! DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #46

Every time I open my email (several times a day) I want to stick my head in the oven. nt silvershadow Oct 2014 #31

Be Very Careful here, Will... KoKo Oct 2014 #33

I donate to candidates. Fuck party organizations. riqster Oct 2014 #36

Me too. I look for underfunded progressive candidates and send what I can. mountain grammy Oct 2014 #112

Hate to say it but I've been putting those emails in spam EileenFB Oct 2014 #37

I am growing tired of deleting all the email from Democrats claiming the world will end ... spin Oct 2014 #38

The author/marketer is too clever by half eom TransitJohn Oct 2014 #39

I generally just "choose all". And delete. raven mad Oct 2014 #42

I believe that gloom-and-doom tactic is called "holding feet to the fire" LadyHawkAZ Oct 2014 #44

Agreed. It encourages voters to be afraid of the Republican agenda, and why shouldn't they be? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #48

Democratics WIN when they act like Winners (Not Whiners.) Tommymac Oct 2014 #53

Fear doesn't motivate me. I would rather be comfortable and confident in Autumn Oct 2014 #111

The email titles are depressing, I rarely open them as a result. liberal N proud Oct 2014 #45

"Kiss Any Hope Goodbye" fredamae Oct 2014 #49

EVERYONE Is Getting This Over & Over! ChiciB1 Oct 2014 #51

Come on.. sendero Oct 2014 #54

I donated and purchased some merchandise back in July Kali Oct 2014 #55

Maybe they read DU ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #56

Well you left this Site..and Now you are Back.. KoKo Oct 2014 #69

You. Have. Got. To. Be. Joking. NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #75

And yet here you are. Posting on this "Dem trashers" site Autumn Oct 2014 #113

Time to dance, Autumn. The wheel never stops turning... sibelian Oct 2014 #119

I am so good, and I'm so happy that you are back. I'm sorry the vote you Autumn Oct 2014 #120

Well, *I* am ok. Also, things are looking up this side of the pond politically... sibelian Oct 2014 #121

Well I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you. On everything. Autumn Oct 2014 #122

:) sibelian Oct 2014 #152

She has nothing to apologize for Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #131

Did anyone ask her to apologize? Autumn Oct 2014 #133

The good Captain Union Scribe Oct 2014 #142

Ah ha. I see I owe the good Captain an apology Autumn Oct 2014 #143

My dear captain, I am not one to withhold an apology when one is due. Not now, not ever. Autumn Oct 2014 #144

Really? NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #145

DU a Democratic web site is not boring. In fact it's the best Democratic site on the web. Autumn Oct 2014 #147

I don't know why you think ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #148

Why do you think your low opinion of DU is of interest to DUers? Autumn Oct 2014 #149

The OP at the top of the Greatest ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #150

Here's a wondeful article on the greatest, Autumn Oct 2014 #153

She's a given in any Will Pitt thread. Union Scribe Oct 2014 #130

This is just a message board Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #85

Err... Doctor_J Oct 2014 #155

I agree. Same thing. NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #157

Right!! Bill USA Nov 2014 #165

Well, I'll always remember your encouraging words MineralMan Oct 2014 #57

Still... Will is On It...and Your Message is: "GOTV".... KoKo Oct 2014 #70

I do not see every post on DU. MineralMan Oct 2014 #76

That's The Problem Will... There IS NO MESSAGE !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #58

Exactly. Nt abelenkpe Oct 2014 #151

"Basically, I'm a whore for the Democratic Party." wyldwolf Oct 2014 #59

We are all Whores for Dem Party...because there's Nothing Else... KoKo Oct 2014 #74

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #99

they're already pre-blaming--um, lefty abstentionists? that are supposedly running riot and will MisterP Oct 2014 #60

Once again, responsibility falls on brain-addled DNC, transparently full of bullshit, whereisjustice Oct 2014 #62

Unsubscribe is your friend. Brigid Oct 2014 #66

At this point I think I might donate if it would mean they would never email me again. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #79

The DCCC e-mails are good for a laugh, not worth getting outraged over Hippo_Tron Oct 2014 #80

That very message is here right on DU...look at the thread asking about the Dem Midterm platform Sheepshank Oct 2014 #81

You seem to be implying that promoting the Dem platform makes the vote seem worthless Fumesucker Oct 2014 #128

nope, not at all Sheepshank Oct 2014 #134

Posts by DUers are not the same thing as official Democratic party emails Fumesucker Oct 2014 #135

sure it does...the message is used to promote a DU'ers hyperbolic Sheepshank Oct 2014 #154

Pack up. Go home. It's done. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #156

A Political Party That Stands For Nothing - Deserves Nothing cantbeserious Oct 2014 #84

I thought this was going to be about the Royals. nt LeftyMom Oct 2014 #86

That Open Letter you wrote is excellent fadedrose Oct 2014 #90

.... DeSwiss Oct 2014 #92

So, are you registered to vote in your new state? Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #93

We need FDR-caliber candidates at every level Demeter Oct 2014 #95

Just delete them, Will... ReRe Oct 2014 #97

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #98

Instead of outing whistle blowers, they should look for the trolls posting those messages bigbrother05 Oct 2014 #100

Sometimes, it's almost as though they are trying to lose. merrily Oct 2014 #101

and yet the Democrats are outraising the Republicans once again. FSogol Oct 2014 #103

Personally, I'm waiting for the death threats to start. chrisa Oct 2014 #107

I read your link heaven05 Oct 2014 #110

If anything you've understated it. marble falls Oct 2014 #116

It could be that politics only attracts stupid people. the_sly_pig Oct 2014 #117

"brain-addled shitshow of an organization" is Hope Inspiring? How do YOUR words inspire anyonet uppityperson Oct 2014 #123

"I am not a member of an organized political party. I'm a Democrat." Orsino Oct 2014 #125

Nobody bothers to kick a dead horse... Docross Oct 2014 #136

Go positive, use humor, win. cp Oct 2014 #137

Painting with an awfully broad brush, my friend Will. longship Oct 2014 #138

The leadership doesn't seem to know we 'have a majority in public opinion'. I eg, am told here on DU sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #146

I am going to vote and vote for Democrats Liberalynn Oct 2014 #139

1878, a California Republican named A.A. Sargent introduced the 19th Amendment Autumn Oct 2014 #163

It's amazing how the two parties switched places Liberalynn Oct 2014 #164

sounds like tea party & gop hacks hopemountain Oct 2014 #158

Perhaps they are trying to light a fire under people? Wella Oct 2014 #159

the worst part of it ibegurpard Oct 2014 #160

Kick&Recommended... butterfly77 Oct 2014 #161