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Prophet 451

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151. If the South didn't vote Republican so reliably...

Reply to YoungDemCA (Original post)

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 08:49 AM

Oct 2014

...we probably wouldn't mock them so much.

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5 Reasons to Stop Talking Sh*t About People From the South and Midwest [View all] YoungDemCA Oct 2014 OP

Is it OK to mock ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #1

I live in Kansas. It is a hell hole of GOP idiots. Insult us all you want. nt Logical Oct 2014 #2

I live in Minnesota Kalidurga Oct 2014 #5

I visit Minnesota every summer. Love it there. Relaxing by a lake is the best rest ever. nt Logical Oct 2014 #8

I was raised and live in The South. It's a shit hole of ignorance and tea-baggerism, too. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #7

I dislike it in a pretty extreme way Kalidurga Oct 2014 #12

"And it's not the ones struggling that are making the bad policies." Hissyspit Oct 2014 #14

Well... Kalidurga Oct 2014 #18

Not correct. Only 50%+1... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #55

I get your point. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #89

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #118

I don't know what name removed said to you Kalidurga Oct 2014 #242

So did California. former9thward Oct 2014 #78

No. I didn't. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #100

Talk about overgeneralization Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #160

Pound for pound Hissyspit Oct 2014 #246

What is that map even supposed to mean? Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #276

It's a screen capture from a video. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #294

I didn't present anything about the Waltons Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #296

I hate to remember it... Tweedy Oct 2014 #90

Why are you giving California a pass? cordelia Oct 2014 #172

I'm not. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #195

But do you hate everyone in California as much as you hate all of us cordelia Oct 2014 #244

I don't hate anyone. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #245

what gets me is heaven05 Oct 2014 #185

They vote their principles! Unfortunately, scoundrels know how to use those to control and direct. Hortensis Oct 2014 #324

Left the mid-west over 30 years ago Califa Oct 2014 #227

Iowa, bout to elect a bagger to Senate Strelnikov_ Oct 2014 #21

Thanks for the positive attitude rurallib Oct 2014 #41

I don't live on the big rock candy mountain Strelnikov_ Oct 2014 #49

+ 1000 nt Logical Oct 2014 #65

Yes, all Iowans will vote for her. progressoid Oct 2014 #214

Ditto for me in Texas LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #31

I feel your pain! nt Logical Oct 2014 #36

Ditto for me in Virginia. Yeah, VA went for Obama, but only because a lot Nay Oct 2014 #56

I'm guessing you're talking strictly about state government (and Federal Senators) kentauros Oct 2014 #282

State and Federal LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #284

Sure we do. kentauros Oct 2014 #285

Because State and Federal representatives LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #286

Excuse me, but the Federal Senate is not a body of one. kentauros Oct 2014 #289

The point stands LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #292

As does my point. kentauros Oct 2014 #298

Pennsylvania Treant Oct 2014 #59

And insult Terre Haute IN all you want. Brigid Oct 2014 #62

Ok. Terre Haute, through which flows the mighty Wabash, home of St. Mary's, ISU and RHIT, a... xocet Oct 2014 #69

How could I forget Steve Martin? Brigid Oct 2014 #75

That's too bad about the Indiana Theater... xocet Oct 2014 #101

Usually followed by "cleaning woman". Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #194

??? xocet Oct 2014 #228

... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #230

Thank you for the video elaboration. xocet Oct 2014 #233

What's cool about it is how they spliced in old clips from classics to fit.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #237

I can deal with GOP idiots, but in Kansas stupidity is deified. Vattel Oct 2014 #98

I was born & live in Georgia... SkyDaddy7 Oct 2014 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftinOH Oct 2014 #176

I'm from the Christian Republic of Alabama, cheapdate Oct 2014 #225

A state that routinely elects Democratic Governors is something to be proud of. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #305

Suck it up. The truth hurts. dballance Oct 2014 #3

Do you think rascist behavior is limited to the South??? CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #9

I have never seen a Confederate flag flown in the North... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #19

Small town rural NW PA, see plenty here. Ignorance abounds. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #29

That's a symbol... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #30

I have. Fawke Em Oct 2014 #32

NJ Teen suspended for flag... but they fly the flag over the South Carolina Capitol ... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #37

Uh.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #77

Uh... why don't we pretend to forget about "state boundaries" for a second... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #136

I guess this map will surprise you theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #139

COMPLETELY DISINGENUOUS ARGUMENT! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #145

You asked, "Where are most of the racists grouped in the United States?" theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #148

You posted a map of the Number of Groups.. not the number of actual PEOPLE in the those GROUPS TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #154

I'd call that which I specifically asked for "disingenuous" too... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #153

Attack the messenger, because you can't accept the facts. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #155

Nothing disingenuous about it. cordelia Oct 2014 #178

Take a deep looking into the facts about that map linked TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #187

Good point. The SPLC's counts are not good statistical indicators of actual participation. Hortensis Oct 2014 #325

I said I wasn't going to respond again... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #208

you didn't actually look at what they defined as a "hate group" TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #210

I'm well aware.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #226

The north is more segregated than the south gollygee Oct 2014 #309

Thanks for posting that marions ghost Oct 2014 #197

Uh.. CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #158

"makes me wonder if there are other things about the South you don't like".... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #162

Oh for goodness sakes.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #165

"none of us" like these people, but Texans do! Everyone on my list was elected by Texans TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #171

If you can't identifly the good ones... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #188

"to only call Southerners who do not vote' TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #191

We can all talk shit about a lot of things.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #269

Something I don't like about the South is the fact that every Southern State is among the 29 Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #170

I can add to the list.. just for Texas. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #174

That's true. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #179

Of course it isn't okay..... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #266

There are racist heaven05 Oct 2014 #190

Well said... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #268

You'd be surprised where many of these attitudes crop up... elzenmahn Oct 2014 #181

A lot of that stems from Dust Bowl migration patterns. Starry Messenger Oct 2014 #196

"There's a nut serving as governor of South Carolina" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #253

Well of course she didn't.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #258

I just wanted to say... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #260

Thanks.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #270

But your defense of the South Carolina confederate flag put it all on her ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #271

Where in the heck did I defend the Conferderate flag.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #277

Yeah, it should be fixed ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #278

I wasn't a bit sorry... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #280

But CEOs don't mind it. stage left Oct 2014 #238

Then you haven't been to Northern California. Throd Oct 2014 #39

Northern California.. the bastion of Confederate Flag waivers... yeah, ok TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #42

On car lots no, but they still aren't hard to find around here. Throd Oct 2014 #50

If you're talking about Mendocino County and places north... elzenmahn Oct 2014 #183

Many Pockets Needa Moment Oct 2014 #212

Racism is racism. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #91

I have outside Chicago more than once in the last year alone and on truck bumpers too but I still feel safe going around because it is lunasun Oct 2014 #46

Here in NE WI Worried senior Oct 2014 #48

Which are more common in WI.. Confederate Flags or Bigfoot? TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #53

Wisconsin has a lot of narrow-minded provincialism and racism marions ghost Oct 2014 #198

Really? i've seen them flying on the back of trucks all over Oregon. F4lconF16 Oct 2014 #67

I've seen a big one flown in south-central Pennsylvania RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #73

Just sayin' CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #76

I have seen them in Indiana TNNurse Oct 2014 #79

(I don't think you understand what racism is) TimeToGo Oct 2014 #81

Really? I don't know what racism is? dballance Oct 2014 #124

I think you've got a good point. And some of those people displaying those things raccoon Oct 2014 #134

Only going by what you wrote in the first post TimeToGo Oct 2014 #161

I used to see them all over rural Ohio when I lived there. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #132

Jeebus, they're all over here. jen63 Oct 2014 #231

I've seen it in New Jersey fishwax Oct 2014 #135

Upstate, NY. There's one right down the road. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #137

Really. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #141

I lived in Boston for 10 years... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #243

Well, since I'm in New Hampshire WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #247

They're everywhere, but you can't take the challenge! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #252

"one in ten thousand in New England states" WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #257

William... you got called out... you couldn't even show ONE TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #263

I never disputed that. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #264

I guess you didn't read any of my other posts.... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #265

You are correct WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #267

"I did not read your other replies. Why should I?" TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #301

Durr. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #303

You want one? Here you go. Here's a few.... MADem Oct 2014 #293

Hey you found one.. posted in 2012! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #302

Plenty more where these came from theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #314

lots of blue links.. no actual photos taken by you! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #316

Just keep moving those goalposts theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #319

Not really.. I am just letting DUers try so hard to prove their flag sightings... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #320

They wear the Confederate flag on their belt buckles up North Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #146

Good ol' boys from anywhere have the confederate flag in the back window of their pickem up truck liberal N proud Oct 2014 #173

Wow you need to get out more then. I'm from the South and make an annual trip to Indiana. Hosnon Oct 2014 #239

There's a pick-up truck being driven on I-84 from the Pa stateline to Ulster County flying one In_The_Wind Oct 2014 #281

I will give you I have never seen a confederate flag flown here in Western NY Liberalynn Oct 2014 #283

The South is not segregated like the North hack89 Oct 2014 #306

Then you've never to Michigan gollygee Oct 2014 #308

No, I do not think racist behavior is limited to the South. dballance Oct 2014 #58

Racism is part of the 'culture' of the south.... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #92

Well, no. I don't think racist behavior is limited to the South. dballance Oct 2014 #88

You don't have to be in the south to see the KKK Revanchist Oct 2014 #130

Of course there is racism in the East and West Coasts.... but we ELECT DEMOCRATS! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #133

I'm assuming your talking about presidential elections Revanchist Oct 2014 #167

Of course not, but they raise it to an art form in some places. Adrahil Oct 2014 #192

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #119

Bullshit cordelia Oct 2014 #248

I am not foofy shenmue Oct 2014 #4

Thank you. CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #10

Thank you. shenmue Oct 2014 #20

Don't do that. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #125

Thank you. shenmue Oct 2014 #166

Most people live on the coasts, or most live in patchs of high density metro areas HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #149

Human is as human does. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #6

Seriously???? CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #11

When enough Southerners wise up and start voting for their own interests, JDPriestly Oct 2014 #93

No one asked for your apology... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #103

At the moment, the fools in California are in the minority. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #112

California inflicted St. Ronnie Reagan on all of us. cordelia Oct 2014 #189

I lived in a Southern state in my teens. It was a horrible experience. Just traumatic. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #193

I am sorry your experience... CherokeeDem Oct 2014 #275

Ronald Reagan was governor of California in the late '60s and early '70s. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #251

Yes, we all know that California is the bestestest state that has ever cordelia Oct 2014 #299

I'm proud of my state, and for good reason. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #315

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2014 #236

You have a point about the media. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #250

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #120

...takes one to know one. Fawke Em Oct 2014 #33

See my post #93. You probably aren't a typical Southerner. You are probably one of the JDPriestly Oct 2014 #94

I do, but on this board I'm always considered an idot, Fawke Em Oct 2014 #322

I'm hoping, praying that Alison Lundergan Grimes will win in Kentucky. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #323

I agree completely A Little Weird Oct 2014 #13

Yes, ALW, it is very easy to be ensconced in a liberal enclave and to rail against the japple Oct 2014 #24

Thank you. As one who lives in the South, I am so tired of being lumped in with japple Oct 2014 #15

Not true... they are not in every community.. especially gun nuts. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #22

I am sure there are members of fundamental religious groups and hate groups where you japple Oct 2014 #25

AND you are seriously mistaken if you think those gun-nuts are limited to the South. Where have japple Oct 2014 #80

Good thing there are no crazy gun nuts in Connecticut or Colorado .. oh wait. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #312

Same percentage? Really? nt Logical Oct 2014 #43

Hey what are you sayin about snake handlers....? marions ghost Oct 2014 #201

The one thing to remember in threads like this, kentauros Oct 2014 #234

I live in Florida and the large amout of Dumb Asses here are about to elect ... BlueJazz Oct 2014 #16

All the evidence about Scott and they still flock to him. Idiocracy is alive and well! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #84

"..a Con-Man, a Crook, a Shyster and a Criminal as their Governor AGAIN. " NCTraveler Oct 2014 #223

No, sorry. It's warranted. DrBulldog Oct 2014 #17

+1000 Katashi_itto Oct 2014 #51

I live in Minnesota and every Jenoch Oct 2014 #54

I think a lot of those cognitive ones do move to the more enlightened areas. Lucky Luciano Oct 2014 #60

I tend to agree Treant Oct 2014 #61

+1 Exactly! lunasun Oct 2014 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #121

Actually, we have a better plan. jeff47 Oct 2014 #202

Chicago Pizza kicks the everloving crap out of New York Pizza. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #23

Have you ever heard of Sicilian pizza? shenmue Oct 2014 #82

No, but indeed it sounds tempting! Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #87

From, and sadly live, in Texas here Liberalagogo Oct 2014 #26

Texas born and bred here too. Rozlee Oct 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Oct 2014 #27

I grew up in Tennessee and there were a lot of dumb hicks there tularetom Oct 2014 #28

^^^THIS^^^. Bible Belt = extraordinarily stupid. nt valerief Oct 2014 #224

I live among those that are mocked in the South. Believe me, I get it. Hoyt Oct 2014 #34

Why do you stay there? NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #52

That assumes LWolf Oct 2014 #35

It is no insult to call a predominately ignorant region predominately ignorant. EEO Oct 2014 #38

If I lived in Kentucky, I'd have to vote for a candidate who supports coal and guns RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #40

Bingo on your parenthetical statement at the end! +1 for that! Lucky Luciano Oct 2014 #64

Are we just bashing white southerners in this thread, or all southerners? Throd Oct 2014 #44

Just white ones, I think. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #126

It would be wonderful if humans would stop dehumanizing their fellow humans MerryBlooms Oct 2014 #45

Is it just limited to talking? Because we know of strategies that really don't include talking. Tikki Oct 2014 #47

I'm from a New England family and grew up outside New York. DamnYankeeInHouston Oct 2014 #57

As a native Houstonian, I support this post! kentauros Oct 2014 #159

Houston rocks marions ghost Oct 2014 #203

Another native Houstonian here! Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #256

Okay so we can start on Californiacs! whistler162 Oct 2014 #63

Which California? Throd Oct 2014 #66

Coast vs. inland can be quite a striking contrast, true. nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #72

Google California Jim Crow Laws and feast your eyes. Brigid Oct 2014 #99

sure, even the Democrats in California are idiots, look at how they voted for Arnold JI7 Oct 2014 #122

I live in Arkansas and want you to insult us WhiteTara Oct 2014 #68

I was born in SC and currently live there. stage left Oct 2014 #70

So many good posts on this thread stopwastingmymoney Oct 2014 #109

You're Welcome. stage left Oct 2014 #235

Can we deal with facts and reality? Hulk Oct 2014 #71

I don’t know about your theory... bongo_x Oct 2014 #114

Right... Hulk Oct 2014 #116

We were flown over once in New Orleans New Orleans Strong Oct 2014 #74

This is my two cents, TNNurse Oct 2014 #85

I grew up in the south abelenkpe Oct 2014 #86

The old saying... DAMANgoldberg Oct 2014 #96

RTR! Hi from the Ham.. stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #204

Why don't I ever hear this sentiment directed the other way? Marr Oct 2014 #97

There are two kinds: bongo_x Oct 2014 #102

Being from Indiana, I can understand the mockery... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #104

True bongo_x Oct 2014 #105

Very true Hulk Oct 2014 #117

That's why NC voted for Obama in 2008 jeff47 Oct 2014 #199

Right marions ghost Oct 2014 #205

It's more that they're moving away instead of being smarter. jeff47 Oct 2014 #207

have to differ a bit marions ghost Oct 2014 #211

Of course they aren't all Dems. But they want different things jeff47 Oct 2014 #217

Washingtonian here.... eyeofnewt Oct 2014 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2014 #288

Born in Texas ALBliberal Oct 2014 #106

The only dismissals are against those that dismiss us, and it doesn't matter where they are still_one Oct 2014 #107

Greetings from Appalachia theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #108

You just knocked it out of the park! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #123

Same argument bigots use against blacks TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2014 #249

Ah, the people of Appalachia. Brigid Oct 2014 #273

Great article. Thank you. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #110

I take exception to the idea that "flyover country" is dehumanizing. intheflow Oct 2014 #111

Identities are silly bullshit. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #113

The only term I saw the term "flyover country" used JonLP24 Oct 2014 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Oct 2014 #127

I'm from the south. And I have no intent of ever returning Scootaloo Oct 2014 #128

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #129

I totally agree... just look how defensive DU er's about where they live. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #131

But "we elect Democrats to represent us" theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #140

Well put. /nt Marr Oct 2014 #218

I'm like 5th generation South and have never encountered that version of Southern culture. Hosnon Oct 2014 #240

But it feels good to generalize and finger point. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #138

Randy Newman bvf Oct 2014 #142

It's not about where you are.. HoosierCowboy Oct 2014 #143

"North vs. South" kentauros Oct 2014 #144

"and everyone in the South"... not all, just a majority. TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #147

I wrote it that way because those are the normal generalizations that people use. kentauros Oct 2014 #152

Very much the opposite in England. whatthehey Oct 2014 #213

Thanks for the information. kentauros Oct 2014 #219

If the South didn't vote Republican so reliably... Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #151

but. but.. but... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #156

Iowa is a leader in gay marriage. roody Oct 2014 #157

Meh! ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #163

I've visited lots of forums. This one has a defining blindness whatthehey Oct 2014 #164

Well.. Texas did give us Billy Gibbons TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #177

I live in the South...always have.... AlbertCat Oct 2014 #168

You should hear what the people in the Midwest say about the coasters liberal N proud Oct 2014 #169

We can take it! Seriously... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #180

A little story for you: Brigid Oct 2014 #222

Why would any one who lives on the coasts give a crap what anyone in the midwest has to say about Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #327

#NotAllSoutherners Blue_Adept Oct 2014 #182

When you've experienced this kind of stereotyping throughout your life... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #186

That assumes such stereotyping is only directed at these areas. jeff47 Oct 2014 #206

Colorado about to join the ranks of teabagger senators mountain grammy Oct 2014 #184

You can whine all you want about the south and Midwest being "picked on", but world wide wally Oct 2014 #200

On this issue, the GOP has us where they want us. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #209

Divide and conquer. So right. The old tactic, works every time. GOP wins. appalachiablue Oct 2014 #279

Nailed it. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #287

I've heard the expression before on DU: Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #290

I've been posting about this issue for years theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #295

Intolerance in politics is at best painting into a corner; Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #307

Since a lot of the posters here don't seem to have read the article... beerandjesus Oct 2014 #215

I'm afraid the "liberal" culture warriors are winning the battle in DU. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #291

Exactly. beerandjesus Oct 2014 #304

Well said. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #310

Very well put, esp. about "default" positions... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #311

The Tillman Act of 1907... beerandjesus Oct 2014 #313

They want to secede and fly the Confederate flag - vkkv Oct 2014 #216

I am from Ann Arbor, MI, which is sapphire blue in the "flyover country." muntrv Oct 2014 #221

One visit to Georgia politics and you would talk sh*t too! mfcorey1 Oct 2014 #229

Don't forget Chris Christie! Ugh! Hosnon Oct 2014 #241

being someone who lives in the south bowens43 Oct 2014 #232

You will NOT ever see this in the Northeast or the West Coast! TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #254

Won't hear trash talk from me about your states! Liberalynn Oct 2014 #255

The Midwest is often referred to as the "Heartland" and "The REAL America". Aristus Oct 2014 #259

I see more than a few posters say that the residents of their state are stupid or dumb and should CBGLuthier Oct 2014 #261

I've noticed that, too, and do not agree that attitude. kentauros Oct 2014 #272

Ignorance or Intelligence can have little to with an IQ test Liberalynn Oct 2014 #274

I'm just a hard headed Midwesterner, raised by hard headed Midwesterners. Brigid Oct 2014 #262

Nice post Jethro!!! U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #297

The reason we can't have nice things like universal healthcare is because of the South mb999 Oct 2014 #300

I keep bumping this entire thread... TerrapinFlyer Oct 2014 #317

Judge people UglyGreed Oct 2014 #318

never heard the term "flyover peope" till today shireen Oct 2014 #321

When the regions in question start supporting themselves and not have to rely on the support of the Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #326

With friends like you . . . Brigid Oct 2014 #328