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joeglow3

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83. Checks. Medicare fraud. Medicaid fraud. Social Security fraud. Disability fraud.

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:30 AM

Oct 2014

If you truly think these are small "anecdotes", there is not much I can say. With hundreds of billions stolen annually and billions spent cleaning it up, I don't see it as a "small" issue. Frankly, I am shocked that some people find showing an ID in exchange for trillions of dollars of aid (be it social security, medicare, etc.) so off-putting.

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Republicans: Drop the pretentious bullshit and admit what VoterID laws are REALLY intended to do: [View all] Triana Oct 2014 OP

Yep shenmue Oct 2014 #1

Amen! kentuck Oct 2014 #2

Exactly. LoisB Oct 2014 #3

Are photo ID rules customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #4

Because no one has ever attempted to fly a voting booth into a skyscraper LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #29

Voting isn't potentially dangerous, then? customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #42

The purpose of an ID for flying is for security LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #59

Security theater, perhaps customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #64

In person voter fraud - 1 to 14.6 million. loyalsister Oct 2014 #44

Wonder what the odds are on the average citizen being a terrorist? customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #46

When a person lives on the margins, they don't need photo ID as much loyalsister Oct 2014 #50

Privileged? customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #51

Uh do you know how many of your "vast majority" are actually city dwellers who never needed VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #52

Yeah, there are a lot of people in the cities customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #55

so screw all the voters over 60 who can't? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #53

You've misunderstood me completely customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #56

GTFO of here....you have to apply for a Voter Registration....it has worked quite well up until now VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #58

And people on our side customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #62

It's more difficult for women loyalsister Oct 2014 #57

OK customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #60

Men don't change their names loyalsister Oct 2014 #72

K & R Iliyah Oct 2014 #5

New Jim Crow. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #6

If people can vote, Republicans lose, because Republicans don't have an appealing message. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #7

When gerrymandering doesn't work ... enact voter ID laws. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #8

i have had an ID ever since I was 16 years old... yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #9

I wrote the following on DU in August 2012. I think it's all still applicable. HeiressofBickworth Oct 2014 #11

ok- yea I understand there are some anomolies yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #18

No, it's not only democratic voters HeiressofBickworth Oct 2014 #23

Yet customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #47

Do you know that you have to "register" to vote and you obtain a voter registration card? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #54

Yes, they certainly want to tweak the allowable things their way customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #63

Do you think a lot of first generation immigrants fly a lot? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #61

In my job customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #65

"Questionable people"? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #66

You seem to measure things customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #68

Oh, you had me convinced at LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #69

If all you really have customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #70

My uncle was born at home -- no birth certificate--and served honorably during WWII mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #12

my parents were both born inthe 1920s yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #19

Digging holes and then disingenuously asking why so many people don't have a ladder to climb out LanternWaste Oct 2014 #36

"lets help them get a copy of it" HeiressofBickworth Oct 2014 #77

I was born at home as was the rest of us madokie Oct 2014 #25

I haven't shown my drivers license in years madokie Oct 2014 #13

can you give me the acct numbers for your four yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #22

I haven' t shown my ID card in years to anyone period madokie Oct 2014 #24

your pin number is a form of id yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #28

PIN tells the system you are authorized to use that account. If I ever get pulled over by police, uppityperson Oct 2014 #40

Well next time you travel...maybe on an airplane out of state yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #73

Next time you travel, fly "out of state", just give them your bankcard PIN for ID uppityperson Oct 2014 #74

Birth certificates can be more difficult to get than you realize gollygee Oct 2014 #14

i am aware of that yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #20

The third wouldn't open, but the first two did not say a birth cert was necessary gollygee Oct 2014 #26

ID is requirted for all the benefits--thats my point yesiwasacop Oct 2014 #27

And that was a GOP idea. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #33

Do you honestly think we should be paying out government benefits without ID? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #35

Yes, I do. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #38

I take you have not had your SSN stolen joeglow3 Oct 2014 #41

I'm sorry for his problems, but anecdotes of theft alone aren't reason to make public policy. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #43

I disagree. I want to show my ID before collecting benefits joeglow3 Oct 2014 #71

You're free to show your ID if that makes you feel safe. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #79

Why do you think stealing credit cards is such a lucrative business? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #81

Because the cards don't have microchips for authentication? Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #82

Checks. Medicare fraud. Medicaid fraud. Social Security fraud. Disability fraud. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #83

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I'd support changing this country's obsession w/ owning firearms for the purpose of shooting others. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #80

So you agree with the republicans? Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #49

From your first link gollygee Oct 2014 #67

. . . Triana Oct 2014 #17

"The repub motivation is they think half the democratic votes are fictitious" LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #30

There will never be massive voter fraud discovered in the U.S. It just doesn't happen. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #31

Wouldn't the repeal of an unnecessary law with obvious intent simply render your question moot? LanternWaste Oct 2014 #34

I have to ask. Are you a republican? Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #48

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The long term rethug playbook is voter suppression and dark money. Otherwise, they got nothing. kairos12 Oct 2014 #10

Bingo. n/t Triana Oct 2014 #39

MHP show yesterday discussing this issue with a panel scarletlib Oct 2014 #15

It's a solution in search of a problem. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #32

K&R! nt Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #16

A Rethug I know would agree Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #21

R#40 & K nt UTUSN Oct 2014 #37

ID vs. state issued photo ID loyalsister Oct 2014 #45

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