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hfojvt

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14. no you are just flat wrong

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 06:18 PM

Oct 2014

My brother's wife is a Republican - but she likes Hillary, and will likely vote for her in 2016.

Women in Kentucky, many Republican women are going to vote for Grimes, and probably like Hillary too. They are much less fond of Obama.

It's about gender, not race. Grimes can embrace Hillary and not offend her conservative female supporters. Embracing Obama is not as safe - conservative females are not as fond of him. Not because he is black, as much as because he is male.

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Let's be honest...we all know why Alison Grimes won't say if she voted for Obama [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 OP

yes, i want her to win JI7 Oct 2014 #1

This is appalling, and totally unbelievable, not to mention, as racist as any in the GOP.. OLDMADAM Oct 2014 #85

Why is voter ID a big issue? kentuck Oct 2014 #2

She made no secret about being a Clinton Dem Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #3

Not only "no secret"... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #5

+1 AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #6

President Obama got a higher percentage of the vote in KY than 'lilly white' John Kerry did kelly1mm Oct 2014 #4

he got a larger turnout of black voters JI7 Oct 2014 #7

He did in 2012 madville Oct 2014 #11

It sucks ... but The Traveler Oct 2014 #8

Interesting.. kentuck Oct 2014 #26

Probably stated my thought poorly The Traveler Oct 2014 #57

Thanks. kentuck Oct 2014 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Jim Beard Oct 2014 #54

These Democrats who disrespect Obama, as Grimes has done, and as Panetta has done are dead to me. Zen Democrat Oct 2014 #9

how about the ones on DU that do the same?? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #10

Well we got you to hunt them down, jury them and band them. bahrbearian Oct 2014 #13

sorry I hurt your feelings.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #15

"band them"? You mean give them tracking collars so we can follow their migratory patterns? Ken Burch Oct 2014 #46

Is MIRT working with NSA and Verizon ? bahrbearian Oct 2014 #50

Maybe she did not vote for Obama. notrightatall Oct 2014 #12

NO "good" Democrats DID vote FOR him.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #16

right....................... notrightatall Oct 2014 #17

right on! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #18

All she had to say is that she is a dem and that's the way she votes...and leave it at that... movonne Oct 2014 #24

she should have said hell yes I voted fir Pres. Obama VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #25

How dare she! kentuck Oct 2014 #32

Maybe she did not tomm2thumbs Oct 2014 #31

Yeah, maybe she voted for Mitt Romney.. Oh, and many good Dems DID VOTE 4 President Obama. Cha Oct 2014 #52

no you are just flat wrong hfojvt Oct 2014 #14

Same in Iowa. moondust Oct 2014 #60

Wow, a very interesting perspective davidpdx Oct 2014 #64

AFAIK, it's more evidence of the moral bankruptcy of pragmatism as a political guide HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #19

Political courage is a vanishing trait these days.[n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #29

At this point nobody is buying the "sanctity of the vote" schtick. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #20

Thanks for the help. kentuck Oct 2014 #33

The cover up would be if she actually voted for Romney. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #59

She wants to win!! mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2014 #21

So what kind of message does it send to blacks in America? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #30

Yes it sends all kinds of messages. mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2014 #84

obama is too unpopular right now for anyone to want to associate with him La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #22

Why? Loads of liberals on DU have said Obama is too conservative.... Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #34

In a "red state", black equals "gay Muslim Communist" Ken Burch Oct 2014 #44

Exactly right. Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #48

Weird thing is, IIRC, McConnell actually took the KY Senate seat in 1980 Ken Burch Oct 2014 #51

Most of those "red states" would be blue if the majority voted. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #36

How do you counter... kentuck Oct 2014 #38

But she immediately called herself a "Clinton Democrat" when she was asked if she voted for Obama Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #40

I don't think Clinton was a racist? kentuck Oct 2014 #42

What's the main difference between Obama and Clinton when it comes to economic policies? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #43

The Clintons have been close friends with her family... kentuck Oct 2014 #45

So that's why? Obama wasn't friendly with her family.... Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #47

Do you currently live in Kentucky? Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #49

Is that so? This Dem in SD isn't running from President Obama, Rick Weiland.. and Michelle Cha Oct 2014 #65

whats his popularity where grimes is running? La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #67

Just replying to your statement.. "obama is too unpopular right now for anyone to want to Cha Oct 2014 #68

It might not have to do with Obama's race fadedrose Oct 2014 #23

Who'd you vote for, who'd you vote for, who'd you vote for, rwheeler31 Oct 2014 #27

I woad somebody would ask her if she voted for Romney world wide wally Oct 2014 #28

"A lot of people think of blacks as a plague that should be avoided." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #35

Her cowardice sulphurdunn Oct 2014 #37

I thought she said she supported keeping Obamacare last night?? kentuck Oct 2014 #39

The ACA sulphurdunn Oct 2014 #61

Sadly true. A very thoughtful OP. n/t. Ken Burch Oct 2014 #41

Same reason she won't tell onecaliberal Oct 2014 #53

when some people defend the Confederate Flag DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #55

How does she gain the 25 points that Obama lost by in Kentucky? kentuck Oct 2014 #56

She is *definitely* one of the good ones. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #83

hoe doeps she stay a democrat while cowering in fear DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #69

She will governm better for the people of Kentucky than Mitch. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #74

There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos! B Calm Oct 2014 #62

Exactly. Being a Democrat is nothing to be ashamed of. Vinca Oct 2014 #63

The more I think about it.. Cha Oct 2014 #66

Obama's polling pretty poorly right now. She just doesn't want to be associated with his policies. badtoworse Oct 2014 #70

So what's the big difference between Obama's policies and Clinton's policies? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #71

Clinton's favorables are probably a lot higher. It's about numbers badtoworse Oct 2014 #72

You referred to Obama's policies as being unpopular Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #73

That's irrelevant. People were a lot better off during Clinton's presidency than they are now badtoworse Oct 2014 #75

So it's not about the policies? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #76

You're making too big of a deal over one word. badtoworse Oct 2014 #77

LOL. You still can't say how Clinton governed differently than Obama Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #78

I've made my point badtoworse Oct 2014 #79

Say what you will, white skin will always carry with it, a certain privelege. Grimes knows this.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #80

i agree , i just wish people would stop pretending race is not an issue JI7 Oct 2014 #81

I've seen "liberals" who insist on "holding Obama's feet to the fire" jump to the defense of Grimes Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #82