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Hoppy

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23. Race and being poor as a reason to get kicked out of hospital? Who'da ever thunk it?

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Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:58 PM

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Dallas County Commissioner says race and no insurance are why Duncan was sent away by hospital [View all] pnwmom Oct 2014 OP

Obamacare for a similar ER patient may well have prevented further contagion, that is a fact of Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #1

Now, that's a message. Maybe a bumper sticker. targetpractice Oct 2014 #69

Let's see your data, Commissioner. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #2

You don't think his lack of insurance affected his treatment? Of course it did. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #3

No. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #7

Hospitals have a huge financial incentive not to take patients who can't pay. pnwmom Oct 2014 #8

Ridiculous. They couldn't turn him away by law. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #14

Yes, they can, as long as they do a "screening." pnwmom Oct 2014 #15

Separate argument. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #17

His lack of insurance could have kept them from running tests that would have given the diagnosis. pnwmom Oct 2014 #19

OK, then show me the hospital's protocols Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #22

How 'bout my experience as an insured white person? jeff47 Oct 2014 #31

Great. Now show me the black man who had those same symptoms Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #38

If you'd bother to read instead of desperately deflect jeff47 Oct 2014 #40

Good on you. Now show me that disparate treatment, OK? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #45

The disparate treatment was done TO ME. jeff47 Oct 2014 #90

personal experience with Presbyterian 7wo7rees Oct 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author 7wo7rees Oct 2014 #83

Nurse in Spain worked with two Ebola patients. LisaL Oct 2014 #37

That he told them Dorian Gray Oct 2014 #86

I'd bet you got pretty good insurance, huh? notadmblnd Oct 2014 #55

Cool story. Don't see the relevance. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #59

Only because you choose not to see. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #63

I believe in analytical thinking, no matter how inconvenient it may be. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #66

Nope. 840high Oct 2014 #32

if you care to, you can see the proof daily noiretextatique Oct 2014 #12

Because you just know. Oooh. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #25

yes...i know ameriKKKa is a racist cesspool noiretextatique Oct 2014 #27

Hah. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #28

Where's your sarcasm thingy?? moonbeam23 Oct 2014 #34

You should take anything and everything Price says with a huge grain of salt. n/t tammywammy Oct 2014 #4

I think it's likely Duncan's lack of insurance had an effect on his treatment, or lack thereof. pnwmom Oct 2014 #5

that's fine that you think that. tammywammy Oct 2014 #9

That's certainly productive. Throd Oct 2014 #6

"I'm visiting from Liberia" Barack_America Oct 2014 #10

they knowingly sent an ebola man home with a check up, antibiotic (misdiagnosis, not non treatement) seabeyond Oct 2014 #11

There will never be proof. But when there is a financial incentive to deny treatment, pnwmom Oct 2014 #13

We aren't talking about HCA. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #16

If a white, insured person had turned up there insisting that he'd recently been to LIBERIA, pnwmom Oct 2014 #18

You're changing the argument. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #20

Since he told them twice that he came from Liberia, they should have SUSPECTED Ebola. pnwmom Oct 2014 #47

You are implying they suspected ebola and sent him away due to lack of insurance and race. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #50

No, I'm not. I'm saying they didn't dig deeply because their mission was to get him out. pnwmom Oct 2014 #52

Because he wasn't symptomatic enough. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #54

The commissioner mentioned race, but I've been focusing on the lack of insurance. pnwmom Oct 2014 #58

I'm sure they are. Please present evidence that the one(s) who saw Duncan are racist. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #61

These doctors never saw a case of Ebola before. LisaL Oct 2014 #43

Yes, because in the racism narrative Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #48

I don't think they consciously suspected he had Ebola. I think they could have been motivated pnwmom Oct 2014 #49

What motivated the ones in Spain to not test the nurse for Ebola? LisaL Oct 2014 #53

Stupidity. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #68

Why not racism? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #75

She was white and so were the staff who turned her away. So where would the racism be? n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #77

Boy you sure do know a lot. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #78

well you saying it isn't so, doesn't make it not true either. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #62

Well that settles it. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #64

show me the evidence notadmblnd Oct 2014 #65

The burden of proof is not on me. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #67

However, you are making a claim too. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #72

No, I'm not. I'm challenging a claim. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #74

you're awful touchy on this subject notadmblnd Oct 2014 #70

Oh, but we've now been assured repeatedly that it WAS because of race. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #73

I believe institutional racism is at the root of it. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #79

In other words, you got no specifics to back anything, but you just "know." Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #80

I guess all I can say is- back at ya notadmblnd Oct 2014 #81

I've seen this personally. They come out and ask questions, say one needs to be hospitalized... freshwest Oct 2014 #42

Thanks for the reality check. It's hard to believe that DUers are so trustful that people pnwmom Oct 2014 #51

No, they didn't know he had ebola yet. jeff47 Oct 2014 #33

here's a question notadmblnd Oct 2014 #76

They were hoping it was some random minor issue jeff47 Oct 2014 #89

No brainer. Anyone with no insurance, not just a black man. babylonsister Oct 2014 #21

Race and being poor as a reason to get kicked out of hospital? Who'da ever thunk it? Hoppy Oct 2014 #23

Kicked out? He was seen, treated, and was given meds. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #24

Treated, after his condition deteriorated. Hoppy Oct 2014 #29

Being seen and given meds = treated. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #30

he wasn't kicked out of the hospital notadmblnd Oct 2014 #82

and Dallas ready to prosecute him for getting sick. Guilty of getting sick while black. whereisjustice Oct 2014 #26

Seriously? LisaL Oct 2014 #36

sigh.... no, I didn't use the sarcasm thingy because never occured to me that whereisjustice Oct 2014 #39

You'd be surprised about what is posted and taken as being serious. Hoppy Oct 2014 #87

Someone told me about this yesterday. Thanks for posting this. freshwest Oct 2014 #46

The nurse in Spain wasn't admitted into the hospital for like a week. LisaL Oct 2014 #35

Still waiting for single payer... n/t Fearless Oct 2014 #41

+1, never forget when they told us "we'll fix it later" lol, it's the lie that protects the lie whereisjustice Oct 2014 #44

+1 Fearless Oct 2014 #60

I had tingling in my ear and right side of face which I attributed to my uncontrolled hypertension. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2014 #56

Fomenting racial discord Aerows Oct 2014 #57

We people who "aren't posting from the other side" inferred that from day 1. nt valerief Oct 2014 #71

It's speculation, but seems likely to me. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #85

Likely that being uninsured contributed to misdiagnosis early on RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #88

This is the same issue as sick days for food service workers. We either care .... Scuba Oct 2014 #91

ahah--my feared "insurance issues will fuck us over in US over ebola" thing librechik Oct 2014 #92