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marym625

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49. Not assuming anything.

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 02:31 PM

Sep 2014

And I don't believe that the answers here would represent the answers in the general public.

I do believe you are correct about the working class. I don't understand how so many vote against their own best interest.

That said, I do believe something big will happen in the way of revolt sooner rather than later.

Thank you for your input

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Is revolution the only way we can elicit change? [View all] marym625 Sep 2014 OP

I used to hope so . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #1

Me too. marym625 Sep 2014 #2

Eeyup. hifiguy Sep 2014 #103

Your question is nonsensical unrepentant progress Sep 2014 #3

I do appreciate your input marym625 Sep 2014 #7

If you're talking about blood running in the streets, then my answer is "no". Scuba Sep 2014 #4

Yes, Scuba marym625 Sep 2014 #5

You're welcome. Scuba Sep 2014 #14

In the words of my one and only hero: 99Forever Sep 2014 #6

Love that! marym625 Sep 2014 #8

I thought you would. 99Forever Sep 2014 #112

Could it ever! marym625 Sep 2014 #122

He Was So MUCH More Than Many Of The Recent ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #171

We, fine lady... 99Forever Sep 2014 #173

Should Have Replied To You Sooner, But ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #202

Revolution is change, pretty much by definition... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #9

my favorite comment on current marym625 Sep 2014 #10

Yeah... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #11

The latter would be the apathy marym625 Sep 2014 #33

Respectfully, we do not know what Ghandi and King would say merrily Sep 2014 #81

Very true. marym625 Sep 2014 #105

I am willing to do that, but I am not willing to merrily Sep 2014 #110

I will have to look for the book marym625 Sep 2014 #116

I figured (as to GU). merrily Sep 2014 #124

Respectfully, their strategies came from the ideas they shared, rogerashton Sep 2014 #240

Very true marym625 Sep 2014 #243

I do not think predicting what people long dead, whom we never even merrily Sep 2014 #245

But we can learn from the ideas of our predecessors, and perhaps apply them. rogerashton Sep 2014 #254

Whether we can learn from our predecessors is a very different issue from merrily Sep 2014 #256

I believe you said rogerashton Sep 2014 #271

The one and only form of revolution that will bring results IDemo Sep 2014 #12

Good point marym625 Sep 2014 #15

We can pool our money and make our own noise. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #13

There was a group that actually tried to do that marym625 Sep 2014 #17

A mental revolution, or evolution at least. The system we have isn't too bad, but most citizens are Chathamization Sep 2014 #16

I have great faith in the upcoming generation. marym625 Sep 2014 #20

Yes, and perhaps that's why in the end evolutionary change will be more successful than Chathamization Sep 2014 #28

Very true. marym625 Sep 2014 #31

Yes, there is great hope in new generations. The older generations, for the most part, RKP5637 Sep 2014 #74

Some of us older folks marym625 Sep 2014 #76

I see in them some of the spirit we had in the 60's when hoping to RKP5637 Sep 2014 #86

ah that damn me generation marym625 Sep 2014 #98

No Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #18

There is always that option marym625 Sep 2014 #22

The Inca Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #24

That always puts me in mind of the song marym625 Sep 2014 #29

Had to YouTube it Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #32

Now I have to listen to it again marym625 Sep 2014 #34

Yes it was Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #35

Thank you marym625 Sep 2014 #36

Yes, most likely. I wish it wasn't so, but the ability to democratically determine our national Zorra Sep 2014 #19

Thank you for that we'll thought out marym625 Sep 2014 #25

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #147

If the changes were possible through the political process... wundermaus Sep 2014 #21

awesome quote! marym625 Sep 2014 #26

Right on! Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #85

I've lost faith in the electoral process. Will another president, another one after that RKP5637 Sep 2014 #104

exactly how I see it marym625 Sep 2014 #108

From what I see, DHS militarized the local police becasue they know there is so much RKP5637 Sep 2014 #118

I feel silly just saying yeah, I agree marym625 Sep 2014 #125

This is exactly the conclusions that I have been coming to. Bohunk68 Sep 2014 #158

what a thought! marym625 Sep 2014 #169

Sadly, I think this is quite possible, because it has become us 'vs' them. The military and RKP5637 Sep 2014 #172

I think revolutiin is prob. needed, hopefully a Gandhian Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #23

Very nice, Eleanor marym625 Sep 2014 #27

You are welcome. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #30

Yes, and violent revolution at that. BKH70041 Sep 2014 #37

I appreciate your comment marym625 Sep 2014 #38

I added a 3rd option. eom marym625 Sep 2014 #40

If We Do Have One RadicalGeek Sep 2014 #39

I am not familiar with that marym625 Sep 2014 #42

agree marions ghost Sep 2014 #217

Yes, But RadicalGeek Sep 2014 #249

Some will lead marions ghost Sep 2014 #250

I should perhaps let you know RadicalGeek Sep 2014 #263

ha ha marions ghost Sep 2014 #272

As One Of My (more Conservative) Friends Would Say RadicalGeek Sep 2014 #274

True that marions ghost Sep 2014 #276

The Powers That Be are making peaceful revolution less feasible. Orsino Sep 2014 #41

judging from the votes so far marym625 Sep 2014 #43

have they tried that voting thing? pansypoo53219 Sep 2014 #44

Who is "they?" marym625 Sep 2014 #45

Violence will happen. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #46

No doubt marym625 Sep 2014 #48

While Gandhi wasn't violent (except toward his wife) ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #50

yes marym625 Sep 2014 #52

Takes a lot of strength to peacefully stand up against violence, in my opinion. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #67

I wonder if the rank and file marym625 Sep 2014 #72

I have no idea. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #75

It will be a peaceful revolution marions ghost Sep 2014 #218

You are assuming there is a majority who want fundamental or radical change DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #47

Not assuming anything. marym625 Sep 2014 #49

There are parties well to the left of the Democratic party on the ballot... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #53

That is truly one frightening thought marym625 Sep 2014 #55

I think most folks get along when things are relatively calm. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #59

Not to the degree they do now marym625 Sep 2014 #64

We definitely cannot survive another 250 years like this... marions ghost Sep 2014 #219

nope marym625 Sep 2014 #223

Iphone 6 just came out Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #61

My gf has the Samsung 3. It looks nice. I don't have a flip phone but I do have a cell phone./NT DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #63

I only recently got a smart phone Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #66

I have a slide phone. I don't even know how to text. LOL. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #77

I agree completely Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #82

KY is a pretty culturally conservative state. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #101

I got a Lumia 635 phone about a month ago. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2014 #78

Indeed Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #90

LOL. I had a doctor appointment about a week after I got the phone. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2014 #92

Revolution doesn't work agent46 Sep 2014 #51

yep. marym625 Sep 2014 #54

If you find a programmer that will work for free, pm me. merrily Sep 2014 #84

I will do that marym625 Sep 2014 #94

I have posted several times about how we could merrily Sep 2014 #113

sad isn't it marym625 Sep 2014 #119

I am going to check that out! merrily Sep 2014 #123

I posted something similar; there doesn't seem to be a good website for progressive organizing that Chathamization Sep 2014 #199

Exactly. Every idea I have that might have some impact merrily Sep 2014 #246

You mean, my life doesn't really depend on whether merrily Sep 2014 #58

Pfft! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #153

There is two prongs. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #65

I agree and have cited those things myself. merrily Sep 2014 #156

Other: I am not at all sure that revolution would bring change, if we are merrily Sep 2014 #56

man am I getting depressed marym625 Sep 2014 #57

Another poster suggested massive civil disobedience. merrily Sep 2014 #60

Not the poll results marym625 Sep 2014 #68

But, some comments are saying there is stuff we can do. merrily Sep 2014 #70

Very true marym625 Sep 2014 #73

btw, I meant violent revolution. merrily Sep 2014 #91

He posted about 3rd response marym625 Sep 2014 #100

Yes, I saw his post. I still don't know. merrily Sep 2014 #102

ask him marym625 Sep 2014 #114

Overthrowing the oligarchy / military industrial complex would certainly help. Initech Sep 2014 #62

As it has been now marym625 Sep 2014 #69

How do you think you overthrow it, though? merrily Sep 2014 #71

prosecute the evil doers questionseverything Sep 2014 #79

With the exception of hand-counting our votes, you are talking merrily Sep 2014 #83

here is one evil doer we could get to questionseverything Sep 2014 #93

Okay, so Monday, then? merrily Sep 2014 #89

see my post #83 questionseverything Sep 2014 #99

Do you mean 93? I don't think finally impeaching one judge is going merrily Sep 2014 #106

yes 93 questionseverything Sep 2014 #109

I call it "in all likelihood, a one of." merrily Sep 2014 #111

we need to make sure it happens questionseverything Sep 2014 #117

I think most or all of DU knows about this case. merrily Sep 2014 #121

msm follows the net now questionseverything Sep 2014 #130

Yes, a mistake on the part of some here. However, that means only that merrily Sep 2014 #133

fuller is rove's guy questionseverything Sep 2014 #139

Obviously, I am in favor of impeaching and convicting Fuller. merrily Sep 2014 #143

prosecuting the evil doers questionseverything Sep 2014 #148

Yes, so does a bad judge passing away, but only if merrily Sep 2014 #151

We had our chance to prosecute the evil doers. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #150

Arresting the MIC for war crimes and holding our own Nuremburg-style trials. Initech Sep 2014 #88

I thought we were talking about what it takes on our part to effect change. merrily Sep 2014 #95

... questionseverything Sep 2014 #107

UofI territory marym625 Sep 2014 #127

yes not prosecuting the war criminals, torturers is his biggest failure questionseverything Sep 2014 #134

Doesn't the executive order marym625 Sep 2014 #138

hmmm which eo? questionseverything Sep 2014 #141

Sorry was looking for it marym625 Sep 2014 #146

ok the improper use of the westfall act by current doj questionseverything Sep 2014 #163

I believe it is marym625 Sep 2014 #165

scroll down to #34 questionseverything Sep 2014 #142

Thank you marym625 Sep 2014 #149

We let that bunch get away with so much during and after Iran-Contra. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #155

yes if we had gone up the chain of command then questionseverything Sep 2014 #168

As some responders have already pointed out rock Sep 2014 #80

My fear is.... marym625 Sep 2014 #128

We would need an extremely strong president, someone like FDR, but I've seen none. However, IMO RKP5637 Sep 2014 #174

so very true! eom marym625 Sep 2014 #177

That is a serious fear rock Sep 2014 #175

I am trying marym625 Sep 2014 #180

The thing is the "we" who have been trying are a tiny fraction of the population, and disorganized Chathamization Sep 2014 #203

It seems weird to say I am isolated marym625 Sep 2014 #204

It's happening slowly because so few people are working on it. It's like being in a group house with Chathamization Sep 2014 #208

Not advocating not voting marym625 Sep 2014 #210

Yes, it's not either/or. I'm just saying I'd focus more on what I see as the low hanging fruit. Chathamization Sep 2014 #212

see my reply marym625 Sep 2014 #226

It’s been a while since I’ve seen Eyes on the Prize, but you’re right, we should look at past and Chathamization Sep 2014 #275

I'm watching the entire series again marym625 Sep 2014 #278

Good point marions ghost Sep 2014 #220

I watched Eye On The Prize marym625 Sep 2014 #225

Civil disobedience IS the way to go marions ghost Sep 2014 #227

I remember this marym625 Sep 2014 #229

Absolutely marions ghost Sep 2014 #233

I think it was Montgomery marym625 Sep 2014 #234

I was so disappointed Occupy sputtered out daredtowork Sep 2014 #87

I agree. That was a hopeful situtation marym625 Sep 2014 #131

It got cold snooper2 Sep 2014 #261

What America needs is a socialist government. And unless we are lucky enough to find a Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #96

Generally the democrats do not have the guts to stand up to the opposition! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #115

Wouldn't that be WONDERFUL marym625 Sep 2014 #140

I like the word awakening. That has to happen first, on an individual level. Avalux Sep 2014 #97

Let's hope so marym625 Sep 2014 #132

I used to think so... kentuck Sep 2014 #120

What a horrible percentage! marym625 Sep 2014 #135

Yes. I have to say that I'm thankful for "Parks and Recreation", since it's apparently the reference Chathamization Sep 2014 #209

There's more than one way to accomplish change. craigmatic Sep 2014 #126

SCOTUS would certainly help marym625 Sep 2014 #136

It only seems like that because the system isn't designed to work. craigmatic Sep 2014 #166

only semi discouraged marym625 Sep 2014 #167

I am beginning to think so... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #129

Yep marym625 Sep 2014 #137

It would be a revolutionary act to remove money from elections. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #144

I don't like it at all! marym625 Sep 2014 #152

I agree. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #154

This is a movement... marions ghost Sep 2014 #222

This HAS TO END! marym625 Sep 2014 #228

It is about convincing people treestar Sep 2014 #145

My uncle was a self made marym625 Sep 2014 #157

Very relevant post currently trending marym625 Sep 2014 #159

Yes, but not a political or economic revolution. Although those things, along with others 20score Sep 2014 #160

Very well said marym625 Sep 2014 #162

Any old change, or change for the better? Silent3 Sep 2014 #161

I assumed "for the better" was a given marym625 Sep 2014 #164

Think of the word "revolution" marions ghost Sep 2014 #224

Do you know what's scary? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #170

In the opposite direction? marym625 Sep 2014 #176

Them and their ilk would be running things instead of us./NT DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #178

Ah! Thank you marym625 Sep 2014 #181

My vote is for General Strikes and Online Petitions to the Whitehouse NightWatcher Sep 2014 #179

General strikes marym625 Sep 2014 #182

It's an 'and' thing. mahina Sep 2014 #183

It very much does marym625 Sep 2014 #184

A Force More Powerful on youtube is in many languages mahina Sep 2014 #185

Thank you marym625 Sep 2014 #189

Those are just little clips. mahina Sep 2014 #191

Danes withdraw obedience from the Nazis, topple Nazi occupation with (mostly) nonviolence mahina Sep 2014 #186

Ghandi boots the British with nonviolence mahina Sep 2014 #187

A Force More Powerful and Albert Einstein Institution links mahina Sep 2014 #188

Thank you so much! marym625 Sep 2014 #192

;) Never surrender…never, never, never, never. mahina Sep 2014 #193

mahalo, mahina! and I won't ever :) marym625 Sep 2014 #195

Free downloads at the Albert Einstein Institution include "From Dictatorship to Democracy", mahina Sep 2014 #190

Síochána! marym625 Sep 2014 #194

195 comments and 0 snark! marym625 Sep 2014 #196

The powers-that-be are doing their damnedest to take away all the alternatives. Maedhros Sep 2014 #197

ain't that the truth! marym625 Sep 2014 #198

revolutions usually make things worse eShirl Sep 2014 #200

You're not the first to say that marym625 Sep 2014 #201

GOTR! whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #205

Sorry marym625 Sep 2014 #207

Get Out The Revolution whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #214

OH!! marym625 Sep 2014 #215

Evolutionary change doesn't exist. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #206

You are not the only one that has pointed that out marym625 Sep 2014 #221

The window on that already closed BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #267

Well said. marym625 Sep 2014 #270

There will not be any revolution. If the present crop of Americans lived during... BlueJazz Sep 2014 #211

man that's just a scary thought marym625 Sep 2014 #213

I think you're wrong about that.... marions ghost Sep 2014 #230

There are many things I would love to be wrong about. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #237

Be the change marions ghost Sep 2014 #241

No AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #216

You and others marym625 Sep 2014 #232

We do it in the current system AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #262

Sorry, I wasn't clear marym625 Sep 2014 #264

Something really, really AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #266

That's exactly what I am afraid of marym625 Sep 2014 #269

We’re already 60% of the way there, with 13% coming up. Chathamization Sep 2014 #268

People need to wake up and vote for democrats! B Calm Sep 2014 #231

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Sep 2014 #236

Its a code hack Go Vols Sep 2014 #238

Thank goodness for techy people marym625 Sep 2014 #242

np Go Vols Sep 2014 #244

No link showing on my tablet. . B Calm Sep 2014 #239

Scuba's definition is a good one, but it would not be a revolution. riqster Sep 2014 #247

I don't think we've gotten that far marym625 Sep 2014 #248

Oh, sure. We need that to keep our rights from being further infringed. riqster Sep 2014 #253

When Climate Change can no longer be ignored, I think the populace will remember... randome Sep 2014 #251

What is so amazing marym625 Sep 2014 #252

Heading to Starbucks. Will ponder it over my $6 coffee. nt. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #255

Oh go for broke! marym625 Sep 2014 #258

A revolution would institute a 100% Libertarian oligarchy. If that's what you want, have at it. stevenleser Sep 2014 #257

Can you imagine marions ghost Sep 2014 #259

Not here. Not with the stand your ground crowd. They would shoot us for fun. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #260

I don't ally with anyone marions ghost Sep 2014 #273

They had all the weapons marym625 Sep 2014 #265

Revolutions never result in the kinds of changes that are actually needed. GliderGuider Sep 2014 #277

You sound like my brother marym625 Sep 2014 #279

Sounds like you have a very thoughtful brother. GliderGuider Sep 2014 #280

It's definitely a compliment marym625 Sep 2014 #281

I have sisters, I know how that goes! GliderGuider Sep 2014 #282

LOL! marym625 Sep 2014 #283

Yep, like that! GliderGuider Sep 2014 #284