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In reply to the discussion: How the Bush Administration Covered Up the Saudi Connection to 9/11 [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)116. 'Do the orders still stand?' Censoring MINETA Testimony Evidence 9-11 Commission Was Cover-Up Job.
Dr. Philip Zelikow and the 9-11 Commission edited Secretary of Transportation Mineta's story. From Wikipedia:
During the September 11, 2001 attacks, Mineta issued an order to ground all civilian aircraft traffic for the first time in U.S. history.
Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission about his experience in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as American Airlines flight 77 approached the Pentagon was not included in the 9/11 Commission Report.<3> In one colloquy testified by Mineta, the vice president refers to orders concerning the plane approaching the Pentagon:
There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.
Norman Mineta, (4)
Commissioner Lee Hamilton queried if the order was to shoot down the plane, to which Mineta replied that he did not know that specifically.(4)
Mineta's testimony to the Commission on Flight 77 differs rather significantly from the account provided in the January 22, 2002 edition of the Washington Post, as reported by Bob Woodward and Dan Balz in their series "10 Days in September"
9:32 a.m.
The Vice President in Washington: Underground, in Touch With Bush
Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta, summoned by the White House to the bunker, was on an open line to the Federal Aviation Administration operations center, monitoring Flight 77 as it hurtled toward Washington, with radar tracks coming every seven seconds. Reports came that the plane was 50 miles out, 30 miles out, 10 miles out-until word reached the bunker that there had been an explosion at the Pentagon.
Mineta shouted into the phone to Monte Belger at the FAA: "Monte, bring all the planes down." It was an unprecedented order-there were 4,546 airplanes in the air at the time. Belger, the FAA's acting deputy administrator, amended Mineta's directive to take into account the authority vested in airline pilots. "We're bringing them down per pilot discretion," Belger told the secretary.
" Expletive) pilot discretion," Mineta yelled back. "Get those (expletive) planes down."
Sitting at the other end of the table, Cheney snapped his head up, looked squarely at Mineta and nodded in agreement.
Dan Balz and Bob Woodward, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42754-20...
This same article also reports that the conversation between Cheney and the aide occurred at 9:55 am, about 30 minutes later than the time Mineta cited (9:26 am) during his testimony to the 9/11 Commission.
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Mineta
Here's Sec. Mineta's actual testimony on YouTube:
It was left out of the report.
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How the Bush Administration Covered Up the Saudi Connection to 9/11 [View all]
Hissyspit
Sep 2014
OP
New Yorker now a conspiracy theorist? 9/11 threads not allowed. Creative speculation...
ChisolmTrailDem
Sep 2014
#2
I am glad you're sister narrowly escaped that conflagration. Sad for those who didn't, but
ChisolmTrailDem
Sep 2014
#37
Sad that some need to put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and say
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#136
If by "allowed" you mean "overwhelmingly supported by the evidence" than yes
YoungDemCA
Sep 2014
#77
you know, if somebody had presented the "official" scenario as a work of fiction, no reputable
niyad
Sep 2014
#118
Anyone want to recap Cheney's interference in the command center when it was happening?
Baitball Blogger
Sep 2014
#5
yea, the guy bushies refused to listen to and whom was summarily relieved of his duties. But
ChisolmTrailDem
Sep 2014
#10
'Do the orders still stand?' Censoring MINETA Testimony Evidence 9-11 Commission Was Cover-Up Job.
Octafish
Sep 2014
#116
I hope you are saying that in jest. If not, I hate to tell you, I doubt that it offends
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#137
Uh-HUH! I remember that. They rounded up all the Saudis and skeedaddled 'em straight out of the
calimary
Sep 2014
#24
Perhaps this is why the Bin Ladens were hustled out of the country so quickly.
kairos12
Sep 2014
#32
What do you mean "stolen"? It is common practice to report on other media outlet's stories and
ChisolmTrailDem
Sep 2014
#45
Very interesting...didn't realize the significance of this airport.
Old and In the Way
Sep 2014
#161
With 9/11 the PNAC got the new American Pearl Harbor they were clamoring for.
Enthusiast
Sep 2014
#61
Lots of people got what they wanted. The Bush family, Cheney made millions and got to
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#139
8 fucking years of 24/7 criminal activity! And the bastard wasn't even elected!
santamargarita
Sep 2014
#65
The really weird part of calling information like this tin foil hat stuff, etc. - people are helping
djean111
Sep 2014
#87
Remember how AG John Ashcroft stopped flying commercial aircraft in July 2001?
Octafish
Sep 2014
#157
Eric Holder has appointed detective Barney Fife to get to the bottom of it.
whereisjustice
Sep 2014
#127
What did George W. Bush and Dick Cheney know, and when did they know it?!?!
blkmusclmachine
Sep 2014
#143
A voice in the wilderness I still sorely miss. He could cut through BS like butter.
raouldukelives
Sep 2014
#160
A treason so grave it infects whoever sees the real evidence like the ebola virus.
gordianot
Sep 2014
#169
For the record, I do believe that many rich, powerful Saudis-including individuals within the govt.
YoungDemCA
Sep 2014
#174