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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts) Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:27 AM Sep 2014

Y'all keep laughing at me... [View all]

but as I keep saying, Hillary's unlikely to run if Bernie's in the race as a Democrat.

Can you imagine Hillary facing what we saw yesterday on MTP? Bernie wouldn't necessarily win the primaries, but Hillary would look awful trying to defend her record.

I suspect she'd rather go out as a colda-been than a two-time loser.

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Y'all keep laughing at me... [View all] MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 OP

First of all Manny.. he would have to change parties.. Peacetrain Sep 2014 #1

He specifically said yesterday that he might run as a Dem in the Dem primary. merrily Sep 2014 #3

Well I did not see the interview yesterday.. so that is news to me Peacetrain Sep 2014 #5

See my reply #2 if you want to see the video of the interview. It was outstanding. merrily Sep 2014 #7

Thanks! Peacetrain Sep 2014 #9

He's already a member of The Senate Democratic Caucus, not that big a stretch... PoliticAverse Sep 2014 #151

I'm not laughing. Links to the petition to encourage Bernie to run and his merrily Sep 2014 #2

I think you're incorrect. Whether or not Bernie Sanders runs or whether MineralMan Sep 2014 #4

In that case, his running as a Dem can only help the Dem party. merrily Sep 2014 #10

If Bernie runs, he'll run as a Democrat. That's certain. MineralMan Sep 2014 #13

Not the point at all. merrily Sep 2014 #17

As I've said several times, I hope he does run. MineralMan Sep 2014 #18

I hope he does run as well. In fact, I hope a lot of Dems run. merrily Sep 2014 #20

I hope not too many, actually. MineralMan Sep 2014 #23

Exactly. The field narrows quickly. Just ask President Lieberman. merrily Sep 2014 #25

I can't disagree with that. MineralMan Sep 2014 #26

We need more than candidates like Hillary eg, being forced to move to the left during campaigns. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #67

Well, we certainly have a different outlook on this. MineralMan Sep 2014 #78

I will vote for him in a primary but I fully understand he probably cannot win. However, he will get jwirr Sep 2014 #37

I completely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #44

As a 'Sanders supporter' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #51

To be clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #59

So am I. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #65

That's reasonable. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #69

Thanks. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #70

True. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #83

I voted for Kucinich in the primaries, even though I knew he wouldn't win, but I worked for and Ghost in the Machine Sep 2014 #150

I voted for him ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #157

I respectfully disagree. Laelth Sep 2014 #86

Bernie who? aikoaiko Sep 2014 #6

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there, to your left. BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #142

You know, like those hippies Eisenhower and the Roosevelt boys. whereisjustice Sep 2014 #154

Actually, VT sensibilities are just my style. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #159

So you don't think Bernie is sexy enough? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #160

I was just teasing Manny for whining about a Clinton, again. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #161

Fair enough BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #162

I think it's possible. el_bryanto Sep 2014 #8

Goldberg? Which Goldberg, and gets into what? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #16

Oops - i meant Bernie Sanders of course. nt el_bryanto Sep 2014 #36

The resentment on DU of a candidate who speaks against oligarchy is amusing. merrily Sep 2014 #11

+1. Nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #38

I know, right? He talks about helping the middle class and DU panics. merrily Sep 2014 #56

What resentment? eom 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #46

Look around the board and see how desperate some posters are merrily Sep 2014 #58

Is that resentment? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #61

Call it whatever you want. It's amusing. merrily Sep 2014 #64

The average voter isn't particularly 'political', they are concerned about issues and who might sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #84

Yep. Also, bernie is "daring" to interfere with the anointing the DNC types merrily Sep 2014 #88

After she lost to Obama, I would not be surprised if she was 'promised' she would be next. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #93

I agree with much of what you have written; however, ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #89

So criticism isn't inherently "bashing", huh? /nt Marr Sep 2014 #92

Who is criticizing Bernie? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #94

I see what you did there BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #143

I think the moment is closer for one of those "Unelectable candidates" to win than many suspect .... marmar Sep 2014 #12

SOME people are sick of "robo-candidates." MineralMan Sep 2014 #14

"It's a mistake to think that your own perspective is shared by the mass of voters" merrily Sep 2014 #19

Lots of people are unhappy with how things are going. MineralMan Sep 2014 #22

A very large group is fed up with both the largest political parties and with the system. merrily Sep 2014 #24

What's the evidence that Hillary has amazing popularity? 2banon Sep 2014 #48

You got it marmar watoos Sep 2014 #27

I hope Bernie or someone a lot like him does become President. merrily Sep 2014 #30

^^^^This^^^ +1000 2banon Sep 2014 #47

I share your enthusiasm for Bernie, but not your faith in the system. 2banon Sep 2014 #50

2banon, we seem to have a lot of similar thoughts. merrily Sep 2014 #54

I've noticed that too.. 2banon Sep 2014 #73

We may be the only two. Usually I feel that I am merrily Sep 2014 #85

LOL! But we're not alone! Take Solace! we have a lot of allies.. 2banon Sep 2014 #133

Assuming primaries and elections are what they seem to be, you could be right. merrily Sep 2014 #40

Few people have ever been more obviously running before an official announcement muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #15

So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #49

I definitely think Hillary would be stronger in the general if she's beaten Sanders. Jim Lane Sep 2014 #152

So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #158

Hillary has been running for years randr Sep 2014 #21

She may well get the nomination. I have serious doubts about the general. merrily Sep 2014 #32

We the people want Bernie, but the PTB would never let him run. valerief Sep 2014 #28

Sanders's a token leftist in the Senate. merrily Sep 2014 #39

Word meanings keep morphing. The right(ish) keep stealing our language. valerief Sep 2014 #45

Seriously. merrily Sep 2014 #62

excellent post merrily... 2banon Sep 2014 #68

Thank you! (I try, I try.) merrily Sep 2014 #71

completely agree. n/t 2banon Sep 2014 #74

She'd pick up quite a few Republican voters (with her views) though. KoKo Sep 2014 #29

I am not sure about Republicans. Remember they registered Dem in 2008 merrily Sep 2014 #34

Republicans voting for Hillary... ReRe Sep 2014 #102

One would hope. But, our Party has changed so much... KoKo Sep 2014 #107

This is what I know... ReRe Sep 2014 #119

That interview was an Incredible Watch...Thanks for the Heads Up.. KoKo Sep 2014 #135

BTW...here's the Link for "MOMENT OF TRUTH" KoKo Sep 2014 #148

Thanks... ReRe Sep 2014 #156

I think Sanders could get more Republican votes than Hillary ever will. Marr Sep 2014 #141

We're not laughing at you...we're laughing with you... brooklynite Sep 2014 #31

I think you're onto something Sienna86 Sep 2014 #33

Another prediction? Yes. Lol. Nt JoePhilly Sep 2014 #35

"Colda-been" is right. But then she has always ballyhoo Sep 2014 #41

I agree that Bernie is a long shot, but the more $ we send him, the more his message can resonate! Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #42

BINGO! And Early Money Is Like Yeast. It makes dough ($) rise. merrily Sep 2014 #77

I keep waiting for you to launch your "Ready for Bernie" superpac. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #43

I can't figure out ... JoePhilly Sep 2014 #105

Let's see some examples MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #126

We've covered it many times. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #128

I predicted that Obama would call for cuts MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #129

No prediction on who announces first?? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #130

You're not going to acknowledge your prevarication? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #134

You're way to coy. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #137

No. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #138

No. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #166

+1 Marr Sep 2014 #145

Before "Ready for Hillary," it was "Tell Hillary you want her to run." merrily Sep 2014 #121

I won't laugh at you Kelvin Mace Sep 2014 #52

Whaaa???? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #57

And you think that the Democratic/Wall Street Establishment will let him? Kelvin Mace Sep 2014 #109

In the land of megalomaniacs, your absolutely Correct . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #127

Pity the RePuker who has to debate him. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #53

Bernie Sanders drray23 Sep 2014 #55

Both of them would make a good team, VP and President. Maybe they can get together & talk. Sunlei Sep 2014 #60

They will not run two people in that age group for POTUS and VP. merrily Sep 2014 #76

No, I think this would be the best, first time in history, to be A orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #82

At least she's a coulda been libodem Sep 2014 #63

Aren't coulda been President and never was President about the same thing? merrily Sep 2014 #79

I'm not laughing; I'm hopin' Android3.14 Sep 2014 #66

More baggage than Louis Vuitton and Gucci combined. merrily Sep 2014 #81

You have absolutely no respect for your opponent BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #72

His running would help Hillary hack89 Sep 2014 #75

His running would help America and the Dem Party. merrily Sep 2014 #80

Hillary should actually state that she is running until then this is all justq mulsh Sep 2014 #87

Actually, she's messing with America and the Democratic Party. merrily Sep 2014 #91

No, I'd rather she wait until next year around Nov. to 'mess with' republicans. Keep Rs in the dark. Sunlei Sep 2014 #95

Right, because America is her private sandbox and all that merrily Sep 2014 #98

I want to keep the republicans 'guessing' & spending as long as possible. Sunlei Sep 2014 #110

She and her campaign attacked Obama during that primary, too, merrily Sep 2014 #111

The President has forgiven Mrs. Clinton, they both knew what the RW did in that primary. Sunlei Sep 2014 #114

You don't know what the Pres has done, but he was not the only one merrily Sep 2014 #116

we will have to wait and see how the midterms go because that will determine a lot of 2016 strat. Sunlei Sep 2014 #131

As a Clinton bundler and later Obama campaign worker and voter protection msanthrope Sep 2014 #132

Despite your involvement, I don't think you necessarily know. merrily Sep 2014 #139

He got elected, didn't he? And the Clinton machine had plenty of msanthrope Sep 2014 #146

? Did I say he didn't get elected? merrily Sep 2014 #149

Actually, she's brilliant Proud Public Servant Sep 2014 #97

Yes brilliant and tenacious in pursuit of her personal goals. merrily Sep 2014 #100

Hillary believes she is collecting her birthright Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2014 #90

Her birthright may have been to be the Republican Presidential nominee. merrily Sep 2014 #101

So let's think this through Proud Public Servant Sep 2014 #96

Can't we at least pretend to start a real primary before we assume who merrily Sep 2014 #103

Of course we can have a primary Proud Public Servant Sep 2014 #104

Not the point. BTW, did you ask that same question in Sept. 2006? merrily Sep 2014 #106

I WANT someone to oppose her Proud Public Servant Sep 2014 #112

bookmarking for fun later. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #99

Occurs to me, Manny. Even if she withdaws, she would still be seen as a two time loser. merrily Sep 2014 #108

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool" MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #113

LOL! Are you (a) calling me a fool or (b) telling me that you will keep your merrily Sep 2014 #115

No! MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #117

I don't think her silence will stop people from merrily Sep 2014 #118

There is no way in hell the the PTB...... Hotler Sep 2014 #120

Was that the PTB getting to Obama or was that merrily Sep 2014 #122

FWIW... a year or more before Obama won the nomination... MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #123

Don't forget Daschle. merrily Sep 2014 #124

Ah, I think I meant Daschle MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #125

Very odd. I always mix up those two as well, especially merrily Sep 2014 #144

I expressed some concerns about Barack Obama's meteoric rise Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #165

the idea that onethatcares Sep 2014 #136

They are not laughing at you, they are grinding their teeth in frustration Rex Sep 2014 #140

Nope. She wants it too badly. winter is coming Sep 2014 #147

EVERYONE LOOK AT ME JI7 Sep 2014 #153

Hillary, the siren, luring love struck, latent conservatives to corporations, war and a police state whereisjustice Sep 2014 #155

I'm sorry, I can't hear a thing you say donheld Sep 2014 #163

Run Bernie Run! lonestarnot Sep 2014 #164

I would... NCTraveler Sep 2014 #167