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hollysmom

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37. we had a warning, unfortunately Bush reduced the staff and the translators had a backlog,
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 01:54 AM
Sep 2014

they read the warning 2 days after the act.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/03/13/311361/-Peter-Pace-Rehire-Fired-Gay-Arabic-Farsi-Translators
then there was the terrorist arrested in Minnesota where the police applied for waivers to search his lap top and were denied by the DOJ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui

On August 16, 2001, Moussaoui was arrested by Harry Samit of the FBI and INS agents in Minnesota and charged with an immigration violation.[21] Materials itemized when he was arrested included a laptop computer, two knives, flight manuals pertaining to Boeing's 747 aircraft, a flight simulator computer program, fighting gloves and shin guards, and a computer disk with information about crop dusting.[21]

Some agents worried that his flight training had violent intentions, so the Minnesota bureau tried to get permission (sending over 70 emails in a week) to search his laptop, but they were turned down.[22] FBI agent Coleen Rowley made an explicit request for permission to search Moussaoui's personal rooms. This request was first denied by her superior, Deputy General Counsel Marion "Spike" Bowman, and later rejected based upon FISA regulations (amended after 9/11 by the USA Patriot Act). Several further search attempts similarly failed.

Ahmed Ressam, the captured al-Qaeda Millennium Bomber, was at the time sharing information with the US authorities, in an effort to gain leniency in his sentencing. One person whom he was not asked about until after 9/11, but whom he was able to identify when asked as having trained with him at al-Qaeda's Khalden Camp in Afghanistan, was Moussaoui.[23] The 9/11 Commission Report opined that had Ressam been asked about Moussaoui, he would have broken the FBI's logjam.[23] Had that happened, the Report opined, the U.S. might conceivably have disrupted or derailed the September 11 attacks altogether.[23]


Then there was O'Neil who was fired when Clinton's terrorist watch group was disbanded, he was a Bin Laden expert.
There were a bunch of ways 9/11 could have been avoided. And they were all bungled by Bush and his intelligencia. Or maybe not.
My take on 9/11 [View all] RobertEarl Sep 2014 OP
No matter how horrific, chilling, and heart-breaking these dastardly attacks were, these attacks indepat Sep 2014 #1
Yep. It was an abuse of power RobertEarl Sep 2014 #3
It was an inside job emsimon33 Sep 2014 #2
I wondered about that RobertEarl Sep 2014 #5
It was inside the building hack89 Sep 2014 #10
Sure, hack, sure. n/t RobertEarl Sep 2014 #11
There are plenty of pictures. Nt hack89 Sep 2014 #13
There were hundreds of eyewitnesses hack89 Sep 2014 #14
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #16
Bullshit. hack89 Sep 2014 #18
Yet no video has been released except two grainy frames that show nothing Reter Sep 2014 #25
There is lots of other evidence hack89 Sep 2014 #26
What happens in situations like this is that Jenoch Sep 2014 #28
No, GZ was not treated as a crime scene. RobertEarl Sep 2014 #30
As I recall, Jenoch Sep 2014 #31
What about the 9/11 commission? RobertEarl Sep 2014 #33
I don't recall the details about that report. Jenoch Sep 2014 #34
The report was a sham, a coverup RobertEarl Sep 2014 #35
I know that two airliners hit Jenoch Sep 2014 #36
It is no ct that the NYFD were never allowed to conduct the usual investigation of fire or that Bush sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author ChazII Sep 2014 #38
Nope. emsimon33 Sep 2014 #19
Sorry - I am done with Truthers hack89 Sep 2014 #20
Go easy on Hack, he's confused as ever RobertEarl Sep 2014 #29
Fukushima was responsible for 9/11. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #32
You get silly PMs too!? zappaman Sep 2014 #55
Go ahead and post my pms RobertEarl Sep 2014 #57
Oh, I couldn't. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #58
we could swap PM's zappaman Sep 2014 #66
Here is photo after photo of plane wreckage at the Pentagon hack89 Sep 2014 #45
The are plenty of pictures of the wreckage hack89 Sep 2014 #12
"Aluminum fragments"...not the usual items from a commercial aircraft crash emsimon33 Sep 2014 #15
So you could see inside the building? hack89 Sep 2014 #17
No, rush hour was over emsimon33 Sep 2014 #21
No one saw a missile. Many saw an airliner hack89 Sep 2014 #23
Ding ding ding Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #49
I saw the plane, we heard the engine and it was way too close, we ran to the window and saw a plane peacebird Sep 2014 #52
How do we know you don't work for Bushco and are just covering up? zappaman Sep 2014 #56
You've obviously never been to DC. The traffic around the Pentagon never subsides. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #24
Here is photo after photo of plane wreckage at the Pentagon hack89 Sep 2014 #46
Jesse Ventura agrees with you Jenoch Sep 2014 #22
I have some questions for you... Whiskeytide Sep 2014 #54
He's been juried out RobertEarl Sep 2014 #59
I cried during shock and Awe thinking how americans had been wound up with hollysmom Sep 2014 #4
Clinton, they said, was wagging the tail RobertEarl Sep 2014 #7
+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #27
I don't think it would have been all that easy to prevent treestar Sep 2014 #6
You buy into the bush excuses? RobertEarl Sep 2014 #8
Hindsight sure is 20/20. Agschmid Sep 2014 #9
we had a warning, unfortunately Bush reduced the staff and the translators had a backlog, hollysmom Sep 2014 #37
Okay so from that information we could surmise that 747's were the target... Agschmid Sep 2014 #42
Yes, something I saw last night pointed out that OBL was so treestar Sep 2014 #44
And yet, the Clinton Administration prevented many terror attacks. And we know why, thanks to those sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #50
If you parse my words a bit... Agschmid Sep 2014 #53
I think as long as we are going around the world acting like an Empire, there will be extremists who sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #70
Wow talk about overreaction treestar Sep 2014 #43
Warrantless wiretapping started before 9/11 CJCRANE Sep 2014 #51
they SAT and waited MFM008 Sep 2014 #39
One person's view of 9/11 as a political failure Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #40
If you read Richard Clarke's Against All Enemies Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #41
That is a very limited view Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #47
Well, of course it could have been prevented if the airlines would have spent the $$ mnhtnbb Sep 2014 #60
Yeah secure doors would have worked RobertEarl Sep 2014 #61
Dumpster trucks hauling away metal debris without investigation BelgianMadCow Sep 2014 #62
what do you think about the melted steel? wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #63
"what do you think about the melted steel? even vaporized by some accounts!" zappaman Sep 2014 #65
ha ha ha ha ha! wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #67
Truthers. LOL...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #64
To reiterate, just for you, sid RobertEarl Sep 2014 #68
anti-truthers. LOL...nt wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #69
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