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100. I don't think you know what racism means. n/t

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Michael Moore is being crticized for racism, not policy commentary [View all] geek tragedy Sep 2014 OP

I don't know if he is a racist they way we... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #1

racism manifests itself in all kinds of ways geek tragedy Sep 2014 #3

Re: "clean and articulate" - are you calling Joe Biden a racist by definition? bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #10

I don't disagree regarding Moore. vi5 Sep 2014 #2

policy criticism should be rebutted using policy arguments, not geek tragedy Sep 2014 #5

Correct. vi5 Sep 2014 #9

kind of like anti-semitism and Israel--just because some propagandists geek tragedy Sep 2014 #17

True. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #110

here, sadly yes. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #112

+1 Scuba Sep 2014 #147

So, President Obama will not be remembered as being the first black president? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #30

that is ONE thing for which he will be remembered. The point is that defining black people geek tragedy Sep 2014 #33

Then I think MM's point flew right over your hear joeglow3 Sep 2014 #47

No, this is just MM and his ilk playing the race card in order to attack the President. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #48

We will have to agree to disagree joeglow3 Sep 2014 #49

No, it's my view that Moore saying that Obama is nothing but the color of his skin is racist. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #51

I think you finally got him with that last post, geek tragedy brush Sep 2014 #66

No. I am just done pissing in the wind joeglow3 Sep 2014 #149

There was no need to bring in race . . . brush Sep 2014 #150

Ha. Everyone that criticizes Obama in any way is a racist. LexVegas Sep 2014 #4

thanks for the thoughtful contribution geek tragedy Sep 2014 #6

Did the OP say that? YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #24

Whoooosh Bobbie Jo Sep 2014 #31

Anyone who says that all Obama has accomplished is being the first black President is a racist. pnwmom Sep 2014 #39

The term has lost it's 840high Sep 2014 #84

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Sep 2014 #106

Great retort. Oh, and welcome back. You were missed. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #128

Like Maher, whatever talent he had seems to be slipping. Reduced to insult humor. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #7

Glad someone else recognizes mimi85 Sep 2014 #54

I think that people decide that his comments are racist because they approve of President Obama's el_bryanto Sep 2014 #8

Even if you take racism out of the equation, what Moore said was, at the very least, very ignorant. randome Sep 2014 #11

Republicans will not remember him only as a black president. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #13

100 Years from now? el_bryanto Sep 2014 #18

Howard Taft is remembered for the bath tub incident Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #23

Taft was the only person to be President and serve on the Supreme Court geek tragedy Sep 2014 #26

You knew that off the top of your head? el_bryanto Sep 2014 #27

we're talking two different things--criticizing americans for having a very shallow geek tragedy Sep 2014 #32

No but I also think if you boil down the President's accomplishments in office el_bryanto Sep 2014 #34

again, amongst whom, people who actually pay attention to policy or superficial ignoramuses geek tragedy Sep 2014 #36

The ACA is a tiny step forward el_bryanto Sep 2014 #37

The ACA is not 'tiny'--certainly not in terms of political importance and history geek tragedy Sep 2014 #42

OK we disagree on that - I hope that the ACA will be remembered as a tiny step forward el_bryanto Sep 2014 #94

one can think of it as being a big step backwards without being racist. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #96

"Utterly indefensible" - than why, in your opinion, would someone defend it? el_bryanto Sep 2014 #97

to drag his race into a discussion of his policies as a means of attacking him is racism. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #98

"As a means of attacking him" - that part doesn't make a lot of sense. el_bryanto Sep 2014 #104

but he's invoking it to reduce Obama to nothing more than that geek tragedy Sep 2014 #105

No it isn't - that doesn't make any sense. el_bryanto Sep 2014 #108

same shit, different pile. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #109

Well yes it is el_bryanto Sep 2014 #115

and my point is that one can call him a centrist squish (which I do!) without resorting to dragging geek tragedy Sep 2014 #116

It may be a tiny step forward to you... MoonchildCA Sep 2014 #58

Objectively false. Vermont passed single payer. joshcryer Sep 2014 #137

but JFK did have the love of a huge percentage of the populace BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #73

Kennedy received a lower % than Obama did in the elections. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #74

Ohhhhhhh... BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #76

happened before I was born. cultural wave is probably a good description though nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #81

it's not a period I've read up on, either. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #83

I Thought RobinA Sep 2014 #89

Again, the ACA, the most significant piece of social . . . brush Sep 2014 #72

Wilson is a great case in point, folks say 'WW1' and that's all they know. Wilson was a huge racist Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #29

That's all accurate - and he apparently approved of the message of Birth of a Nation el_bryanto Sep 2014 #35

I remember it JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #41

C'mon, the ACA will be remembered as the . . . brush Sep 2014 #68

"Has Obama done noteworthy and positive things as President?" If you answered "no", then... NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #15

poppycock belltower Sep 2014 #88

You don't think digging us out of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, pnwmom Sep 2014 #40

umm, that legislation was already passed before he took office belltower Sep 2014 #91

TARP was passed earlier. But the $800 million economic stimulus was passed under Obama. pnwmom Sep 2014 #107

huh? belltower Sep 2014 #122

That 832 million averted a far worse financial crisis and arrested the 400,000 monthly job losses pnwmom Sep 2014 #125

I guess getting OBL was mimi85 Sep 2014 #56

I agree treestar Sep 2014 #12

no you're wrong my friend belltower Sep 2014 #92

I don't think this latest point is racist, but the one about the 9/11 planes...yikes! Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #14

Let's put it this way: will Obama be remembered for Obamacare? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #19

Our economy was losing 400K jobs per month when Obama took office. pnwmom Sep 2014 #43

What is it with the Obama-no-accomplishments-but-first-black meme? brush Sep 2014 #79

You and a few others are making that claim Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #16

Most of Obama's haters are fine with a certain level of racism. Cad Bane Sep 2014 #20

What he said was stupid, Obama will be remembered as a great POTUS. Rex Sep 2014 #21

I disagree with him on the substance--certainly I think when his full 8 years geek tragedy Sep 2014 #28

Ask 99% of Straight America what Harvey Milk did, they will say 'first elected openly gay man'. Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #38

I remember him as a hero. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #44

Characterization is an editorial act. It is not the same as comprehension of content. Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #50

true. point i was making is when a person makes a claim about future perceptions geek tragedy Sep 2014 #53

Moore's comments were not painting Obama as an heroic first. They were insulting, dismissive, MADem Sep 2014 #90

Exactly. Thank you, MADem. And the reaction from the miniscule number of black posters that still Number23 Sep 2014 #134

I don't think Michael Moore would like to be reduced to a single physical characteristic. MADem Sep 2014 #139

Everyone says stupid shit, rich or poor...famous or not so famous. Rex Sep 2014 #60

the cycle of detractors and cheerleaders forms kind of a dual orbit here geek tragedy Sep 2014 #63

True, we have a lot of fanpeople here and when one of their idols gets dissed Rex Sep 2014 #69

ISIL & Syria will gobble up the rest of his time belltower Sep 2014 #93

your concern is touching, please note that his presidency has been declared 'over' geek tragedy Sep 2014 #95

I'm criticizing Michael Moore for his willful ignorance and his racism.. he does this because he Cha Sep 2014 #22

Not only is that a ridiculous speculative claim on Moore's part YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #25

THANK YOU! MohRokTah Sep 2014 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Sep 2014 #78

Hey Michael: Fat, Racist, and Wrong is no way to go through life son. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #46

Calling him fat? Well, that's...that's...pretty much equivalent to what he said about Obama. randome Sep 2014 #52

Hey ... Some of my best friends are fat! JoePhilly Sep 2014 #55

Yep. Being reduced to a single physical characteristic is ... what's the word? ...Dehumanizing!!! MADem Sep 2014 #138

Moore's comment was wrong, but this onslaught Union Scribe Sep 2014 #57

Why was it wrong? nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #61

Because Obama will be remembered for many things. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #65

maybe I should put it this way: why bring Obama's skin pigment into a discussion of policy? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #67

Isn't becoming the first black president Union Scribe Sep 2014 #80

becoming president is an accomplishment, but it's not an accomplishment as president. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #123

indeed stupidicus Sep 2014 #77

Well put. Thanks. riqster Sep 2014 #59

Up is down, black is white, war is peace. beerandjesus Sep 2014 #62

probably should actually read the post before commenting on it. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #64

I don't see that he used race to "frame an attack" G_j Sep 2014 #111

how is the president's race relevant to a discussion of his actions in office? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #113

he never connected the two G_j Sep 2014 #121

you are confused, I fear geek tragedy Sep 2014 #124

not confused G_j Sep 2014 #132

Thanks for the condescension. beerandjesus Sep 2014 #119

thanks for your thoughtful, constructive contributions to the discussion nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #120

There does seem to be an automatic dismissal of President Obama by many people. gordianot Sep 2014 #70

Good luck trying to sell that meme. NorthCarolina Sep 2014 #71

Paraphrased: 'The only thing memorable about this POTUS is his skin color' CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #75

Good post, CakeGrrl. nt brush Sep 2014 #86

Jesus Christ. No one will remember Obama for Lily Ledbetter, DADT, or the economy in 100 years. Dawgs Sep 2014 #99

Really? CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #126

I don't think he's a racist. 840high Sep 2014 #82

almost everyone is at least a little racist. main differential is self-awareness geek tragedy Sep 2014 #85

YES. His comment was racist. He should be ashamed of himself, but he probably isn't. MADem Sep 2014 #87

He does have introspection, but only in retrospect. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #101

I don't think you know what racism means. n/t Dawgs Sep 2014 #100

Maybe it's you who doesn't know what racism means. Cha Sep 2014 #135

For some, unless the racism comes in the form of "that word", it isn't really racism. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #102

+1. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #103

Thank you, BtA. nt sheshe2 Sep 2014 #127

Exactly.. they wouldn't know "racism" if it stared back at them in the mirror.. mahalo, BtA~ Cha Sep 2014 #129

Recently purchased flash cards for my kids that cover all of the US presidents abelenkpe Sep 2014 #114

No, if the card listed these as his accomplishments: geek tragedy Sep 2014 #117

K, still might look for some other ones though. nt abelenkpe Sep 2014 #118

Exactly, geek! Cha Sep 2014 #130

Pretty much. joshcryer Sep 2014 #143

Michael Moore's racism.. I want this for my journal, geek.. "God save us from such stupid men.." Cha Sep 2014 #131

K Cha Sep 2014 #133

His tweet doubling down is highly offensive to me. joshcryer Sep 2014 #136

Soft racism on display. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #140

I tweeted to him. joshcryer Sep 2014 #141

Good for you. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #144

Here's my tweet: joshcryer Sep 2014 #146

Oh, I'm sure you are truly outraged brentspeak Sep 2014 #151

I still support Michael Moore RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #145

Pardon me for being a bit of a late comer here MrScorpio Sep 2014 #152

It's because of how people define "racism" gollygee Sep 2014 #148