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Thu Sep 11, 2014, 05:31 AM

Sep 2014

I agree. I don't even bother to open a lot of threads these days.

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How would DU react to the 1930s and Hitler? [View all] Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 OP

ISIS = Hitler? Hoo boy. marmar Sep 2014 #1

Obviously you can't read. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #4

Sorry. I was bedazzled by the really bad analogy. marmar Sep 2014 #7

No problem. I accept your apology. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #8

Translation: I can't counter the merits of you entire post, so I will try to mock it. joeglow3 Sep 2014 #170

What merits? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #201

The ones you choose to ignore. joeglow3 Sep 2014 #209

Point them out to me. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #263

I guaran-fucking-tee, you will not admit to anything joeglow3 Sep 2014 #269

Bernard Sanders (I-VT) - "There is no question that ISIS is a dangerous and brutal organization," FrodosPet Sep 2014 #97

ISIS is engaging in ethnic cleansing on an historical scale. pnwmom Sep 2014 #173

“Harder than anything we’ve tried to do thus far in Iraq or Afghanistan” is how one U.S. general Hissyspit Sep 2014 #198

Amnesty International lancer78 Sep 2014 #234

Did it really? thucythucy Sep 2014 #251

here is link lancer78 Sep 2014 #282

Thanks. thucythucy Sep 2014 #283

Analogy FAIL AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #2

+1 - raven mad Sep 2014 #253

There is no Germany behind ISIL RobertEarl Sep 2014 #3

ISIS is no long term threat? Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #5

ISIS/ISIL/al Nusra/FSA/al Qaeda/Mujahideen, etc Boreal Sep 2014 #22

How did DU react to the Bush gang's 'terror' claims? You don't have to go back to Hitler sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #33

You're wrong about Germany Lurks Often Sep 2014 #151

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #158

good point, david! bettyellen Sep 2014 #163

I see you here too. I don't take orders from anonymous, strangers on the internet. As I was saying sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #169

Fewer than the US. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #127

Trashed? Really? sammythecat Sep 2014 #141

It goes to show what an upstanding DU member so are when they make statements like that davidpdx Sep 2014 #159

The president as well as others have pointed out that our enemies are no longer nations davidpdx Sep 2014 #157

I believe that some of them do have boarders. RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #248

Hitler started out as one crazy man, before he got a country's government behind him. pnwmom Sep 2014 #174

most of my posts against hitler and what i suggest we should do would be hidden samsingh Sep 2014 #6

First, they complain about a speech before it's made, then about a war that hasn't begun. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #9

A war that hasn't begun? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #51

We're never supposed to try to act to prevent things, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #145

We are supposed to wait until the war starts then get called unpatriotic Jamastiene Sep 2014 #148

No kidding. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #69

Michael Moore is a heartthrob? First time I ever heard that. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #80

I have never heard anyone claim that on DU or otherwise. Jamastiene Sep 2014 #149

I know. The claim is ridiculous. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #152

In the way Elizabeth Warren is treestar Sep 2014 #176

Reading comprehension is often lacking. I read what DI said and agreed, but others RKP5637 Sep 2014 #130

ISIS isn't the military powerhouse that Germany was. ISIS can field about 20,000 fighters whereas neverforget Sep 2014 #10

Neither was al-Qaeda and yet, they managed to give us the most devastating attack on American soil. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #11

And look where that got us? A war in Afghanistan that we are still fighting, Al Qaeda still exists neverforget Sep 2014 #15

Do tell Boreal Sep 2014 #16

It was Saudis who launched that attack, and it only succeeded because the normal precautions sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #36

And do you know what made it so devastating? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #146

And now we find it on DU Hissyspit Sep 2014 #196

The people who invaded the US on 9/11 were not al-Qaeda RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #249

Looked it up, here is what Wiki has to say krawhitham Sep 2014 #266

So wiki is the end all, and be all of your research? RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #267

Next time I'll put on a tin foil hat and go down the conspiracy rabbit hole just for you krawhitham Sep 2014 #272

That's interesting... OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #24

And Hitler took over a country with a willing populace, vast resources and a military that was neverforget Sep 2014 #28

Yet. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #34

Where would ISIS get the nukes? Israel? Iran? neverforget Sep 2014 #35

Yes, Iran. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #53

Iran doesn't have nukes. They have nuclear reactors but no nukes and Iran wants nothing to do neverforget Sep 2014 #62

Why no troops on the ground? Because they're currently not necessary. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #70

so basically we're going to bomb them like we did AL Qaeda but neverforget Sep 2014 #156

No. We become isolationists joeglow3 Sep 2014 #171

and look where intervention has got us: Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. neverforget Sep 2014 #224

And we look at what isolationism got us in WWII joeglow3 Sep 2014 #237

so we continue to do what we've been doing and expect a different result? it makes no sense neverforget Sep 2014 #243

Well, we have been doing nothing about Isis and look where it has led joeglow3 Sep 2014 #256

They started bombing weeks ago AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #259

I disagree with Iran supplying nukes to a group that hates them. The reason we are in Afghanistan is freshwest Sep 2014 #73

I didn't intend to suggest that Iran would ally themselves with ISIS/ISIL. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #75

You're most welcome. I nearly got flamed below. Meh. freshwest Sep 2014 #93

I did. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #95

I have to add, that I agree with you, but that Iran has a powerful backer: Russia. freshwest Sep 2014 #98

Let's hope so, fresh.. ‘Apocalyptic’ Isis beyond anything we've seen, say US defence chiefs .. " Cha Sep 2014 #107

What I find most concerning is the speed and acceptance. As you said, "They want a new home RKP5637 Sep 2014 #136

It's only a delusion if it doesn't come to pass. The caliphate is a tangible vision.. freshwest Sep 2014 #227

Thank you, as always, freshwest! Incredibly interesting!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #242

Iran is Shiite AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #117

So you supported the Bush Doctrine then? Don't know if you noticed, but apparently it has sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #39

No. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #57

That could be a result of staying out of it treestar Sep 2014 #162

Apples and Oranges from delete_bush Sep 2014 #56

what nukes? who are they going to get them from? Why the scaremongering? neverforget Sep 2014 #61

Right. Kim Jong-un delete_bush Sep 2014 #66

Hair on fire nonsense AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #118

Ah hah! The long forgotten partner in the Axis Of Evil Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #131

so when are we invading North Korea? they're a far bigger threat neverforget Sep 2014 #225

The consequences of attacking N. Korea Progressive dog Sep 2014 #226

I responded to post 66 as he brought up North Korea. neverforget Sep 2014 #229

I responded to your response Progressive dog Sep 2014 #233

and you didn't take into account the context of that neverforget Sep 2014 #244

Yes I did Progressive dog Sep 2014 #245

Once upon a time the Nazis were just a bunch of blowhards and malcontents Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #116

+1, n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #140

our security is a different question now treestar Sep 2014 #161

That was a delightful little righteous rant. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #12

It was. 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Sep 2014 #85

Sheesh Boreal Sep 2014 #13

Given the love for Putin, I think I can guess how some would react. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #14

Yawn! GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #129

anti-interventionist is not necessarily irrational MattBaggins Sep 2014 #17

No, you're not pointing out our hypocrisy. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #18

This OP was more entertaining when I read the original bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #19

"A few bombs" LeftyMom Sep 2014 #20

History much? NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #23

Exactly. History. Western intervention set this shitstorm brewing. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #26

And Hitler was brought to power via our intervention in World War I. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #40

My point is that intervening has only made the situation worse, LeftyMom Sep 2014 #45

So how many Iraqis should ISIS kill first? jeff47 Sep 2014 #204

You're right, this hole isn't nearly deep enough and we should keep digging. Great plan. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #206

You're free to say you don't care about them. jeff47 Sep 2014 #208

I don't think bombing is going to make for a reduced casualty count. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #213

Considering it already has, your expectations might be off. jeff47 Sep 2014 #214

Or we could be rational phil89 Sep 2014 #280

That is a very stupid argument MFrohike Sep 2014 #60

Analogy Fail 2.0 AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #119

How about we quit doing the same thing over and over again Jamastiene Sep 2014 #150

So you too supported the Bush Doctrine?? And here I thought DU was opposed to sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #43

There has been a disturbing tendency with dems BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #236

That depends. In this scenario, would our nation be arming the Germans? SolutionisSolidarity Sep 2014 #21

I will say this: Raine1967 Sep 2014 #25

A smart guy said something about this. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #27

This is more than a humanitarian problem. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #42

There is zero credible argument that Isis is a threat to the US. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #47

Just as there was zero credible al-Qaeda was a threat to the US, right? Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #50

Do you even listen to yourself? Without embarrassment? LeftyMom Sep 2014 #54

You think it's goofy treestar Sep 2014 #165

PDB! Was ignored by Bush! GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #133

That first paragraph does not describe what Obama said treestar Sep 2014 #164

I fear that some are making believe they live in Luxembourg or some tiny place... NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #29

I know, right? Some here were even against us getting rid of Saddam! Maybe they love dictators and Chathamization Sep 2014 #30

I remember, those who opposed that illegal invasion were Saddam Lovers. Just saw sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #46

Yep. People here are saying the same thing that Bush and his lackeys were saying in '03. Chathamization Sep 2014 #124

No they aren't. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #177

Perhaps if you can see why "ISIS" is not like Hitler you can also see how silly it is to compare Chathamization Sep 2014 #180

Not like 1930s Hitler. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #184

More like parallels to the rhetoric that got us into Iraq. No, not parallels; the same arguments. Chathamization Sep 2014 #189

Did Obama make a Hitler analogy? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #191

Eh, nice nonsequitur. You and the OP made the analogy; no one accused Obama of making it. N/T Chathamization Sep 2014 #200

Actually, you did. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #211

Wha…? That statement says nothing about Obama. You and the OP are made the analogy, and that’s what Chathamization Sep 2014 #215

Oh, yes they are. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #202

"I can't imagine why people would think that way." OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #212

You're not surprised I can think critically? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #218

No I'm not. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #221

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Sep 2014 #260

Well, since you've got nothing but attack on (and presumption about) me. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #264

Your analogy isn't perfect in every single way... Silent3 Sep 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #32

The much-closer analogy is how did DU respond MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #37

Saudi Arabia needs to step up and take care of their affairs. The rest of us can only lament. mia Sep 2014 #38

I do agree with you there... Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #44

Let the Arab states form their own coalition. mia Sep 2014 #49

It's about time we clean up the mess. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #52

Yes by all means ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #135

No, we don't own it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #147

After reading this, all I can say is that it might be time for you to become "Sober Irishman". n/t BlueStater Sep 2014 #41

LOL! nt City Lights Sep 2014 #154

FDR's fireside chats arguing for lend-lease would have been met with mockery and disgust Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #48

You've got that right! eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #72

No doubt. delete_bush Sep 2014 #74

Very True treestar Sep 2014 #167

So now ISIS that no one heard about a few months ago former9thward Sep 2014 #55

Go home BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #58

Most Americans held that view until Pearl Harbor, then WTC. Excellent rant, though. freshwest Sep 2014 #59

What a disgusting graphic Buddha2B Sep 2014 #71

Australia? You only exist because we let you live. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #84

Unwarranted. You could have added your data without talking like that. freshwest Sep 2014 #92

"You'd actively dismiss the deaths of millions"? Old Crow Sep 2014 #63

This wasn't his only nonsense post of the day: Hissyspit Sep 2014 #193

That's a particularly nasty thread, QC Sep 2014 #255

K&R treestar Sep 2014 #64

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #182

power corrupts, I think that's the nature of humanity. I agree with you & President Obama, Sunlei Sep 2014 #65

The choice isn't (fill in the blank) or do nothing.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #67

we know how the Putinistas here would react, they'd be talking about geek tragedy Sep 2014 #68

This bullshit got old around 1946, I think. JackRiddler Sep 2014 #76

Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #77

The Hitler problem should be turned over to the League of Nations bluestateguy Sep 2014 #78

It'll still end up in our Department of War. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #83

FDR didn't call Hitler JV in 1938. rug Sep 2014 #79

In January 1938 he could have. Hitler had not yet 'reunited' the ethnic Germans in Austria and pampango Sep 2014 #172

Ermächtigungsgesetz (1933), Dachau (1933), Nuremburg Laws (1935), Saarland (1935), rug Sep 2014 #188

You're on quite a roll. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #81

+1 LOL! Old Crow Sep 2014 #82

Did I miss the point where Obama said he'd put boots on the ground? Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #89

We don't need to put boots on the ground? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #197

LOL! Rex Sep 2014 #232

The Psychopathic Maniacs Who Cut Off Heads? cer7711 Sep 2014 #86

The Drunk's money shot: "irrational anti-interventionist ideology." blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #87

You're absolutely right. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #90

We helped create this. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #105

We helped create Hitler. Didn't mean we didn't step in to fix it. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #109

Or you could learn from it and not to it over and over. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #111

Our involvement in World War I ultimately led to his rise a few years later. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #115

I don't think we helped create Hitler treestar Sep 2014 #168

How about a straw man? treestar Sep 2014 #166

I like it rpannier Sep 2014 #88

Looks like you got your answer. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #91

no surprise from me. Looking at all the "Obama is a war monger" threads, I wouldn't expect anything still_one Sep 2014 #101

Not the same Vots Sep 2014 #94

Not sure it will instantly make us safer Live and Learn Sep 2014 #103

Okay Vots Sep 2014 #178

Hitler and the Nazi regime was unique in all human history committing industrial scale genocide. gordianot Sep 2014 #96

There have actually been quite a few in the history of man. You also left out China and the still_one Sep 2014 #100

The list in the 20th century is almost endless but Nazi Germany is still unique for all time. gordianot Sep 2014 #143

I would say that the House of Saud is a piss-poor stand in for Churchill Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #99

How did DU react when Obama ordered the seals to illegally enter Pakistan and eliminate bin laden? still_one Sep 2014 #102

Not well. Some were appalled. Some were jubiliant. The first group hated on the second. freshwest Sep 2014 #112

there's another reason to support this war Enrique Sep 2014 #104

I think a lot of them would have posted to say Hissyspit Sep 2014 #106

I actually LOL'ed at this Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #175

war is groovy. will get it right this time because obama! KG Sep 2014 #108

Putin and Ukraine is your answer. joshcryer Sep 2014 #110

Well said. The OP and most responses have focused on ISIS and what the US should and shouldn't do pampango Sep 2014 #120

Thank you get the red out Sep 2014 #113

This is all from Limbaugh's show! RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #114

Oh wow! Very interesting. Oilwellian Sep 2014 #207

So did you listen to Russ yourself, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #223

Dr Frankenstein insists we must fight the monster CJCRANE Sep 2014 #121

Divided Opinion - Same As Now sub.theory Sep 2014 #122

Pretty much the same way my grandfather did after the "Anschluss" in 1938. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #123

What ISIS lacks is the industrial capacity to wage a large-scale war. baldguy Sep 2014 #125

You're liable to break the internet ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #126

I Putin/Ukraine is a better analogy distantearlywarning Sep 2014 #128

The America's Always Wrong Brigade sub.theory Sep 2014 #137

Does O'Reilly object to you quoting him verbatim? Doctor_J Sep 2014 #235

What a BS comparison. Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #132

Biggest bucket of fail on the board this week. 99Forever Sep 2014 #134

K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #138

Based upon hindsight melm00se Sep 2014 #139

Huge K&R... SidDithers Sep 2014 #142

ISIS, really? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #144

Most likely, I'd react the way we reacted Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2014 #153

It's a good thing we have people here that love to complain about DU Rex Sep 2014 #155

"bring a little bit of sanity back to the planet" reorg Sep 2014 #160

You forgot the first rule of analogies. First one to make a Hitler comparison, loses the argument NightWatcher Sep 2014 #179

A few points DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #181

Did you buy this same argument when it was about Saddam Hussein? Iggo Sep 2014 #183

If we had funded, and continued to find Hiltler in the first place, we'd suggest prosecuting those grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #185

Many DUers would throw Roosevelt under the bus and say it was all his fault. stevenleser Sep 2014 #186

Actually many DUers would say Hissyspit Sep 2014 #190

Right, the same DUers who are all over DU saying the war on ISIS is the same as the 2003 Iraq war stevenleser Sep 2014 #192

No. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #203

Sure sign of someone losing an argument is when a ROFL is used instead of actually making one. Dawgs Sep 2014 #271

Exactly! And they are the same members who have complained about Obama daily. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #252

Um Hissyspit Sep 2014 #262

nothing. Hitler would have shut us down long ago. librechik Sep 2014 #187

To quote Johnny Carson: OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #195

Or, for a more accurate comparison, The Tonkin Gulf Incident. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #194

55 recs so far for this mindless smear. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #199

And as posted above... Oilwellian Sep 2014 #210

How would DU react to Executive Order 9066... SidDithers Sep 2014 #205

Precisely treestar Sep 2014 #250

^^A Voice of Sanity^^ Progressive dog Sep 2014 #216

Oh, it's not even CLOSE to a voice of sanity. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #217

Notice 114 provided no link to the show Progressive dog Sep 2014 #222

Well, why don't you explain to me how this trashy Limbaugh-like smear of an OP, Hissyspit Sep 2014 #261

Oh now it's a "Limbaugh-like" smear Progressive dog Sep 2014 #268

The one in the OP. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #273

You linked to 114 which did Progressive dog Sep 2014 #274

I didn't read it as a literal claim, you did. nt Hissyspit Sep 2014 #275

It made a literal claim, so you didn't read it as written Progressive dog Sep 2014 #276

Saudia Arabia beheaded 4 people this week.. 3 for Hash charges SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #219

I bet the anti-war members Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #220

For starters, ther would have been no Hitler Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #228

just like reading freeperville in 2001 Doctor_J Sep 2014 #230

Wow. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #231

WarKillGood, man. Iggo Sep 2014 #238

Your moral argument is as juvenile and dishonest as it was when Rumsfeld made it. Marr Sep 2014 #239

Thank you. QC Sep 2014 #240

Actually I doubt HE would be so craven. Puglover Sep 2014 #241

And he can probably construct a simple analogy QC Sep 2014 #254

LOL, is this a serious post? Or just messing with us? nt Logical Sep 2014 #246

hypocracy, my ass! RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #247

+ a trillion. Excellent Excellent post. The Best in the topic. nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #265

k/r 840high Sep 2014 #257

Google "Abraham Lincoln Brigade" eridani Sep 2014 #258

To me, there is no distinction between the rhetoric in the OP and the rhetoric of the hard right. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #270

Hefty Pantload whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #277

Whatever gets us into war phil89 Sep 2014 #279

We've tried this. We can't fix it. phil89 Sep 2014 #278

I lived through WWII. I was born in 1939. RebelOne Sep 2014 #281