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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
37. Again, you're making bad conflations
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 03:01 PM
Sep 2014

yes, they are all "belief systems" - buuuuut... some belief systems are extremely broad, and others are extremely narrow. Most political ideologies trend towards the "narrow' end of the spectrum simply because they need to. Political systems have specific goals and agendas and thyus need relatively narrow focus. A religious system, on the other hand, will trend towards the "very broad" end of the spectrum - the larger of the religion, the broader it gets.

If someone tells me they are a christian, then all I know about them is that they believe in Jesus. If, on the other hand, they tell me they are a dominionist, then I know very well what their position is in regards to democracy, minority religions, gay and women's rights, even economics and international affairs.

You'd be on much stronger ground if you were claiming this about Jewish supremacists, but you're not, you're making it about anyone who supports a Jewish homeland.


And how exactly does that homeland come into being, without the necessity of purging non-Jews from it? Of forcibly wresting territory from the undeserving hands of "racial inferiors?" of oppressing those inferiors in order to maintain racial dominance? of "mowing the lawn" around the borders in order to keep those dirty amaleks cowering and destabilized?

Racist violence is inherent to the ideology. Both for establishment and maintenance. I suppose it could be argued that there were alternatives. But those alternatives weren't taken, and so they aren't particularly relevant.

I will add that, as someone who is deeply suspicious of Zionism and all other ideologies that fuse religion with nationalism, people who constantly rant about how evil all 'Zionists' are give off a distinctly un-progressive vibe as it is eerily similar to those who talk about Congress being "Zionist Occupied Government" etc.


I don't think zionists are "evil" - "evil" is a big word that I'm reluctant to apply in general. I believe that Zionism is wrong, and that so are its adherents. I feel the same about Libertarianism - which I also hold to be a pretty violent ideology (though, in a more passive-aggressive way than Zionism)

Also, don't try to lob that "ZOG" bullshit on me. Really, you can stop with these underhanded "I didn't say what you know I'm saying" jabs.
Because the defining characteristic of the Holocaust BainsBane Aug 2014 #1
Do you think George Galloway was beaten up because he was on old man in the malaise Aug 2014 #2
Deceive,distort,divert,reframe. Nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #6
do you think bias crime automatically equates to NAZIS? KittyWampus Aug 2014 #13
Context is everything malaise Aug 2014 #17
Oy. One psycho religious nutter is not geek tragedy Aug 2014 #3
I agrree with both statements . n/t orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #4
"One psycho religious nutter?" Scootaloo Aug 2014 #5
If you really want to play that game, Jews geek tragedy Aug 2014 #7
Who said anything about Jews? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #8
Are you claiming that violence by Zionists geek tragedy Aug 2014 #9
I'm saying Zionism is a violent philosophy Scootaloo Aug 2014 #10
By your logic the same goes for Islam, no? geek tragedy Aug 2014 #11
If I were talking about Judaism, that comparison would be worthwhile Scootaloo Aug 2014 #12
No one is justifying violence. geek tragedy Aug 2014 #14
Its very well placed however. nilesobek Aug 2014 #15
I think you misunderstand Scootaloo Sep 2014 #33
Utter sophistry substituting personal bias for factual analysis. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #34
A note of irony... Scootaloo Sep 2014 #35
Zionism is jewish nationalism, it's a belief system just like palestinian nationalism is just geek tragedy Sep 2014 #36
Again, you're making bad conflations Scootaloo Sep 2014 #37
Zionism is narrow mainly because there just aren't that many Jews around. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #39
Good post n/t malaise Aug 2014 #18
"Zionism" is not even remotely equatable to "Israel is always right" Unvanguard Aug 2014 #20
Oh, I know there are "all kinds of Zionism" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #32
Some more strange misconceptions Unvanguard Sep 2014 #38
As of 2010, over 1.6 billion or about 23.4% of the world population are Muslims. cpwm17 Aug 2014 #16
This was actually my point. Trying to extrapolate geek tragedy Aug 2014 #22
Exactly gopiscrap Aug 2014 #29
This argument is not serious. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #21
The one attacked is the guy who called for his town to be "Israel free zone" Kurska Aug 2014 #23
The Nazis committed genocide. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #24
One nutcase beats up an somebody leftynyc Aug 2014 #25
Galloway is an ass, though he shouldn't have been beaten of course HERVEPA Aug 2014 #26
I am so grateful that this post was made (and for the comments that followed) oberliner Aug 2014 #27
next, can we call it "just like slavery" if one black person rapes a white person? ridic. unblock Aug 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2014 #30
This has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read... MrBig Aug 2014 #31
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