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20. "Zionism" is not even remotely equatable to "Israel is always right"

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 09:55 AM

Aug 2014

Let alone "all who gt in its way deserve death and privation."

The strangest misconceptions sometimes pop up on this topic. I am not even a Zionist; I take Edward Said's critique seriously, among others. But at least figure out what the issue is. There are Zionists of a wide variety of political stripes with vastly different assessments of the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Saying that it is "violent" categorically is difficult to justify, given that. Saying that it is like Nazism is just Jew-baiting. (Yes, Jew-baiting. No, not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Jews are Zionists, but Zionism is overwhelmingly the dominant position among organized Jewry of all political affiliations, and probably among American and European Jews in general too. That is so for understandable reasons, though, as I've said, it's not a view I share.)

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Stop comparing Zionists to Nazis! [View all] ellenrr Aug 2014 OP

Because the defining characteristic of the Holocaust BainsBane Aug 2014 #1

Do you think George Galloway was beaten up because he was on old man in the malaise Aug 2014 #2

Deceive,distort,divert,reframe. Nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #6

do you think bias crime automatically equates to NAZIS? KittyWampus Aug 2014 #13

Context is everything malaise Aug 2014 #17

Oy. One psycho religious nutter is not geek tragedy Aug 2014 #3

I agrree with both statements . n/t orpupilofnature57 Aug 2014 #4

"One psycho religious nutter?" Scootaloo Aug 2014 #5

If you really want to play that game, Jews geek tragedy Aug 2014 #7

Who said anything about Jews? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #8

Are you claiming that violence by Zionists geek tragedy Aug 2014 #9

I'm saying Zionism is a violent philosophy Scootaloo Aug 2014 #10

By your logic the same goes for Islam, no? geek tragedy Aug 2014 #11

If I were talking about Judaism, that comparison would be worthwhile Scootaloo Aug 2014 #12

No one is justifying violence. geek tragedy Aug 2014 #14

Its very well placed however. nilesobek Aug 2014 #15

I think you misunderstand Scootaloo Sep 2014 #33

Utter sophistry substituting personal bias for factual analysis. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #34

A note of irony... Scootaloo Sep 2014 #35

Zionism is jewish nationalism, it's a belief system just like palestinian nationalism is just geek tragedy Sep 2014 #36

Again, you're making bad conflations Scootaloo Sep 2014 #37

Zionism is narrow mainly because there just aren't that many Jews around. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #39

Good post n/t malaise Aug 2014 #18

"Zionism" is not even remotely equatable to "Israel is always right" Unvanguard Aug 2014 #20

Oh, I know there are "all kinds of Zionism" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #32

Some more strange misconceptions Unvanguard Sep 2014 #38

As of 2010, over 1.6 billion or about 23.4% of the world population are Muslims. cpwm17 Aug 2014 #16

This was actually my point. Trying to extrapolate geek tragedy Aug 2014 #22

Exactly gopiscrap Aug 2014 #29

This argument is not serious. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #21

The one attacked is the guy who called for his town to be "Israel free zone" Kurska Aug 2014 #23

The Nazis committed genocide. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #24

One nutcase beats up an somebody leftynyc Aug 2014 #25

Galloway is an ass, though he shouldn't have been beaten of course HERVEPA Aug 2014 #26

I am so grateful that this post was made (and for the comments that followed) oberliner Aug 2014 #27

next, can we call it "just like slavery" if one black person rapes a white person? ridic. unblock Aug 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2014 #30

This has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read... MrBig Aug 2014 #31