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hamsterjill

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91. Well, I have to disagree.

Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:55 PM

Aug 2014

I'm not telling anyone here what they should or should not be saying. I'm stating my opinion, which seems to be the unpopular side of the argument on this thread.

One might think that on a Democratic message board, all views would be welcome. One might think that on a Democratic message board, the presumption of innocence would be an important thing.

But, ah hell, CNN has told us everything that we need to know. Let's just go ahead and try Officer Wilson in the court of public opinion - because that's the popular thing to do. Let's ruin his life and let's ruin the lives of his family members, and let's act like we know him and know what he is like and what he believes because someone said, heck I don't even remember who it was, but someone said that he'd put some racist remarks on Facebook. So if someone said it...it must be true, right?

Because you know, the whole Ferguson police force is corrupt and there couldn't possibly be some or even one of those police officers that are worth anything right? I mean, why bother with a trial? Everything on the internet is true, after all, isn't it???

And if you don't get my point after the those last two paragraphs of complete sarcasm, then I cannot explain it any further.

Have a good evening.

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Can we please discuss the shooter Darren Wilson? There is only the allegation [View all] VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 OP

AMEN AND AMEN!!! The FPD did NOT release a report of the shooting. The FPD Cheif should be FIRED for uponit7771 Aug 2014 #1

I'm thinking Thomas Jackson, Chief of Ferguspon Police Department, will be indicted. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #8

Don't think any indictment of the police chief is coming JimDandy Aug 2014 #64

All the while, the Feds have been investigating. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #68

We're too busy trying to find something for Michael Brown to be guilty of gollygee Aug 2014 #2

That's right. We're trying to find a way to blame the victim. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #107

The Darren Wilson story has been strong-armed into the background BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #3

It's always the plan. merrily Aug 2014 #51

We're busy!! bravenak Aug 2014 #4

Without judging the humorous CT aspects of your post yay or nay, I'll simply say that today's VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #5

Yes--it's diverting attention from the murder of Michael Brown, which is what the authorities Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #108

I found this on Facebook but it doesn't seem right justiceischeap Aug 2014 #6

Can you copy/paste it here - or give us the gist? JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #9

It's very weird. Says he's a 'Deputy Commissioner' but the FB page was created . . . today! (This VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #11

Connections to the page... Overt Racism, "special friends" who they can't talk about on FB. Wow. tridim Aug 2014 #14

in case anyone wonders barbtries Aug 2014 #21

Yea, it's sick... Central Missouri is racist to the core. tridim Aug 2014 #26

Anybody could have created that page. Brickbat Aug 2014 #34

Ah, geez, shows you what an internet naif I am. Great point you raise. Any VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #48

I'm going in a different direction JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #99

Of course, everyone always acts alone. Usually spontaneously, too. merrily Aug 2014 #52

Yeah, I realized I was a doofus after I had posted it. Someone had posted the VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #79

Did you reply to JustAnotherGen with that info? merrily Aug 2014 #80

Just now I edited my reply to him or her. I'll also try to message him or her through the DU VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #83

I get it. I have very similar tendencies. Also, I am relatively certain JustAnotherGen is female. merrily Aug 2014 #84

Oh yeah JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #102

good to know your opinion! merrily Aug 2014 #113

For your future screen capture endeavors try Lightshot cui bono Aug 2014 #90

Thank you. We may have to do the media's job for it here and crowd-sourcing VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #10

Thank you JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #7

You need someone who can Dox this guy. onecaliberal Aug 2014 #12

I'm not sure I would even know how to begin. That FB link upthread goes to VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #13

There might be a DDOS underway SwankyXomb Aug 2014 #65

I can't find anything. onecaliberal Aug 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2014 #15

Thank you for your awesome diligence and public service here with all these annotated links. I'm VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Aug 2014 #30

Hmmmm onecaliberal Aug 2014 #54

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #16

Could we let the DA and professionals do that Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #17

The DA? Are you fucking kidding? He came out 100% in support of the police. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #18

No I'm fucking not Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #22

I think this article details what CBGLuthier is referencing: VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #25

Fair point. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #29

Great minds think alike! Just this morning I found myself thinking that a Missouri VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #37

Probably they do Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #42

That's a valid point, I suppose. But you can't fail to notice how the focus today VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #20

Of course not, but it's the police making that claim Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #23

Making what claim, that it was Darren Wilson who shot Mr. Brown? If so, your VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #24

I think I understand what your're saying Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #27

Boy, it does get difficult sometimes trying to communicate on the internet, doesn't it? :) We VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #31

Indeed it does. Great post. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #39

Caution: Darren Wilson is a semi-common name itsrobert Aug 2014 #28

That is a damned good point - I don't exactly know how one would even know whether VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #41

Can we please also discuss the fact that Officer Wilson has rights. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #32

I assume the courts will deal with him fairly. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #35

No, you are under no restrictions. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #38

Umm...if they have even more bombshells to drop at this late hour DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #40

They may be holding it back for trial. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #46

Whatever evidence they may or may not have, he did not earn summary execution. merrily Aug 2014 #53

Exactly. Even if Wilson knew Brown stole the ciigars, it's no reason for him to kill him. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #109

This is a damned good point and I truly appreciate your making it. We have 'due process' not VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #44

Thank you very much. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #47

Our opinions don't affect Wilson's right to due process BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #77

+1000000 treestar Aug 2014 #101

they're desperate to distract the public and to turn the deceased fishwax Aug 2014 #33

No, that argument doesn't hold water. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #36

And that argument is responded to, everyone retains rights throughout police interactions. morningfog Aug 2014 #43

but the argument you posit doesn't make much sense fishwax Aug 2014 #45

Witnesses describe their accounts on CNN in a safe environment with their attorney sitting beside hamsterjill Aug 2014 #49

I don't know what any of this has to do with anything I've said fishwax Aug 2014 #50

That kid was murdered in the street period. For nothing! onecaliberal Aug 2014 #55

Like Emmett Till back in the 50s. So friggin' sad, just breaks your heart when VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #93

That's fine. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #58

So how are we on DU impeding the investigation again, I must have missed it. Rex Aug 2014 #88

I'm not trying to sensor anyone. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #92

Indeed. +1 Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #106

How does pursuing him for a robbery counter anything relevant? merrily Aug 2014 #56

Because the cop may have been pursing him for any other number of many reasons. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #60

Regardless of why he was being pursued, he was still entitled to a trial, not an execution. merrily Aug 2014 #61

Not if he was pointing a gun at the officer. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #69

All reports have said.. sendero Aug 2014 #70

And if something came to light that changed your mind? hamsterjill Aug 2014 #74

Are you.. sendero Aug 2014 #81

Really? hamsterjill Aug 2014 #85

Really? sendero Aug 2014 #86

Poster seems to be incredibly insincere...good call. Rex Aug 2014 #89

I recall DU got a lot of that when Travon Martin was gunned down. U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #98

He wasn't pointing a gun at Wilson, but that is very different from why the cop was pursuing him. merrily Aug 2014 #71

No. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #72

You have already been told a message board is not a jury in court of law, merrily Aug 2014 #73

You don't need to be rude. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #76

Yes, someone posted that to you before. How else was I supposed to say it? merrily Aug 2014 #78

Well, I have to disagree. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #91

Oh please. merrily Aug 2014 #94

Oh bullshit. hamsterjill Aug 2014 #95

Good point. The narrative needs to be about Wilson. reflection Aug 2014 #57

I assumed part of the delay in releasing his name was to scrub his internet presence riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #59

Ding! Ding!! Ding!!! hamsterjill Aug 2014 #62

Even on the WaybackMachine? Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #96

Accurint JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #104

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2014 #67

Is there another crime here? Uben Aug 2014 #63

This is the 21st century, people. The Information Age. randome Aug 2014 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author countryjake Aug 2014 #66

He's sleeping on George Zimmerman's sofa NightWatcher Aug 2014 #87

K&R nt alsame Aug 2014 #97

Don't agree treestar Aug 2014 #100

That is a damned good point and I'm half-tempted to delete this entire VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #105

This guy? malaise Aug 2014 #103

hang on now TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #110

Well, for example, if it emerged that Wilson were a member of the KKK, that VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #111

the fact that you think Wilson might be a member of the KKK TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #112

Now it turns out that Brown paid for his tobacco and THERE WAS NO THEFT! I predict VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #114

K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #115