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51. Why wouldn't sabrina 1 understand? Does she not have the mental aqcuity to

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understand something?

What are you trying to say about sabrina 1's ablility to understand things?

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Had An Interesting Conversation Late Last Night ... About The Democratic Party... [View all] WillyT Aug 2014 OP

Sounds like a fascinating conversation. zappaman Aug 2014 #1

Fascinating enough for you to take the trouble to join in, even to go find a video. I hate searching sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #16

Yes, it took me all of 5 seconds to find. zappaman Aug 2014 #22

It's an interesting thread, isn't it? I mean you're here. I never go into threads I don't find sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #25

As I said zappaman Aug 2014 #29

So, instead of condescension, why don't you name those reasons? Octafish Aug 2014 #45

Did you know...? zappaman Aug 2014 #67

So, you don't have reasons to support cutting down the OP. Octafish Aug 2014 #84

Why wouldn't sabrina 1 understand? Does she not have the mental aqcuity to ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #51

I agree with most of her posts--probably all, really. I am just usually cautious about merrily Aug 2014 #152

Thank you. I used to spend a lot more time constructing posts here. But now not so much, sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #225

You're welcome, Sabrina1. DU can be an odd place, sometimes. nt merrily Aug 2014 #226

self-awareness can be extremely difficult Bobbie Jo Aug 2014 #175

Ok I admit it ...I have been a zombie Dem voter. Doesn't seem to help much. L0oniX Aug 2014 #223

Why does it sound like a "fascinating conversation"? Please, spell it out for ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #53

Read the OP zappaman Aug 2014 #63

Why is it "fascinating". Try answering the question rather than being condenscending. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #65

Read the OP zappaman Aug 2014 #66

I read the OP. It's not "extremely fascinating" at all. It's an anecdote about ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #68

"Extremely interesting" zappaman Aug 2014 #90

So, you're not going to explain why you think it is "Extremely interesting", or ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #95

…. MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #123

People post to discussion forums like it's twitter these days Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #145

Or, they think they may get a hide if they flat out say what they mean. merrily Aug 2014 #174

That too Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #177

I could be way off base, of course, but I have been reading the comments about the merrily Aug 2014 #182

I couldn't agree more! Stellar Aug 2014 #72

Did he happen to mention any Greens he's voted for getting elected? Loudly Aug 2014 #2

Boy do you miss the point. It's about principles, not getting elected. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #5

It's good to have principles, but sometimes when you vote them you get TexasProgresive Aug 2014 #39

But my principles remained unsullied. Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #47

I am glad your conscience is clear. Rationalization does wonders. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #71

Interesting that you blame the "dead people" on those that voted their principles. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #52

And when you keep voting against your principles, what do you get? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #54

Blind allegiance to an ideology is demonic. vlyons Aug 2014 #56

But if you win you don't get to covet the struggle LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #70

What struggle? Is getting to the polls really that hard? merrily Aug 2014 #168

That is probably the norm here LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #183

Bush getting into office is the fault of the people that voted for Bush. Sirveri Aug 2014 #102

Gore was not the best candidate, either and Brazile and his other campaign advisors were merrily Aug 2014 #171

Yes! 840high Aug 2014 #61

Principles don't put food on the table ... frazzled Aug 2014 #121

I think you are all confused. My principles are Democratic principles that provide health care toall rhett o rick Aug 2014 #125

I think you are even more confused frazzled Aug 2014 #141

God forbid you disrupt the big "they're all the same" rally going on here with facts, LOL. bettyellen Aug 2014 #151

I guess I haven't gotten to all the posts that say Democrats are the same as Republicans yet. merrily Aug 2014 #179

Damn... You Are Correct... Principles DO NOT Make The Trains Run On Time !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #128

. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #144

No wonder your thinking is so confused and warped frazzled Aug 2014 #162

when fixing infrastructure is likened to Nazi Germany instead of recognized as sorely needed... bettyellen Aug 2014 #170

Seriously? An OP about a drunk neighbor's rant is followed up with a reference to Nazi Germany? bettyellen Aug 2014 #167

good post treestar Aug 2014 #160

People who vote to the left of Dems (or to the right of Republicans) have nothing to lose? merrily Aug 2014 #176

Nevermind the Democratic Party Platform resembles the Green Party... joshcryer Aug 2014 #228

They will, if more and more and more join this guy. Because he sure isn't alone in his sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #17

It's also why I'm an idependant. n/t deafskeptic Aug 2014 #32

Independents are the largest growing voting bloc. A lot of people are thinking about it. The Dems sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #109

Amen! I became an independant when Bill Clinton went pro-business. I regret my support for NAFTA. deafskeptic Aug 2014 #139

He was progressive, as some use that word. But he wasn't liberal. merrily Aug 2014 #181

No offense, but have you read the Terms of Service of this board? merrily Aug 2014 #178

What do you mean? I don't recall endorsing any party or candidates in this thread. deafskeptic Aug 2014 #184

I didn't say you had violated the TOS. I just wanted to be sure you merrily Aug 2014 #186

Ah. I see. A lot do seem to be centrists here. deafskeptic Aug 2014 #187

I feel your pain. merrily Aug 2014 #188

All the Democrats I have voted for did not get elected either. merrily Aug 2014 #163

Hard to argue with someone who's heartbroken. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #3

Yep... And So Many Here, Have The Notion, That We Have Not Other Choice... WillyT Aug 2014 #4

But this time is different. This time we are only killing the bad guys. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #6

Gee, I thought we always kill only the bad guys. merrily Aug 2014 #164

It's hard to admit you've been played, over and over again, by the Party that claims Maedhros Aug 2014 #7

It is hard, but it can be done and is done, daily, merrily Aug 2014 #166

Yup. Either that, or the paycheck doesn't come. woo me with science Aug 2014 #231

The tears may be a sign that he knows that his vote for another Party is not making anymore jwirr Aug 2014 #8

Or... He's Just Given Up... And Moved On... WillyT Aug 2014 #9

The "Given Up Party" RobertEarl Aug 2014 #23

Dan Burton is the Indiana Republican member of Congress. He probably meant John, alp227 Aug 2014 #10

Sorry... John Burton... WillyT Aug 2014 #12

Haha. Remember "Watermelon Dan"? alp227 Aug 2014 #14

Current chair and he's given up? panader0 Aug 2014 #48

Idealogically, I identify more with LuvNewcastle Aug 2014 #11

Yep and that's how Republicans get elected sunnystarr Aug 2014 #13

That's not going to work anymore. When you elect a Democrat to the WH and that Democrat sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #18

So Obama= Mc Cain. You really can't find any difference? Interesting. bettyellen Aug 2014 #78

Here, let me try to make it simpler for you. The reason being given to vote for Democrats rather sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #108

so, you are unable to imagine how a Mc Cain presidency would be much worse for the USA? bettyellen Aug 2014 #110

See post #108. Read it and your answer is there. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #111

Maybe read my question again? You did imply electingr Obama ended up no better than electing Mc Cain bettyellen Aug 2014 #112

'So', you support Republicans in power? That's what you implied isn't it? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #114

Well, I pretty much expected you to walk back from that statement, and you did. Thanks! bettyellen Aug 2014 #115

Why did you dismiss putting Republicans back in power as something that should NOT overly concern sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #116

I took issue only with this Obama= Mc Cain bullshit. That was all I asked about - the "no bettyellen Aug 2014 #117

No, that's not all you said. Please link to where I said anything about McCain. Stop lying about me sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #118

You are talked about voting for Obama versus which mystery Republican when you said this: bettyellen Aug 2014 #119

You must like zappaman Aug 2014 #122

just a little bored with folks who use stories of "other people" disgusted with the Dem party.... bettyellen Aug 2014 #124

Would you care to explain that comment? I don't like people lying about me and will not allow sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #134

I wasn't talking to you. zappaman Aug 2014 #136

No, you were using the now familiar 'third party' tactic of talking ABOUT someone rather than speak sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #137

uh huh. zappaman Aug 2014 #169

No, you were using the now familiar 'third party' tactic of talking ABOUT someone rather than speak sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #137

All this whining about wanting to be honeslty represented Sheepshank Aug 2014 #197

you "proved" nothing, in fact you never once answered the question posed to you. bettyellen Aug 2014 #165

When you make stuff up about people's words and cannot provide proof of what you made up sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #192

Look- I merely quoted you. And asked you to clarify. bettyellen Aug 2014 #202

You did not quote me in your initial response to me, you attempted to put words in my mouth. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #205

in case anyone is confused, the quote: bettyellen Aug 2014 #207

That is NOT what you started this with, and you know it. You have failed to post a quote from me sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #208

I quoted you saying "what's the difference". And this is a bald faced lie "The poster above also bettyellen Aug 2014 #209

??? 'What's the difference between voting for Republicans and/or having them RETURNED TO POWER sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #210

Then which Republican were you talking about voting for? I'd think Mc Cain/ Palin would be top of bettyellen Aug 2014 #211

So you don't have a link to back up your false statement? Thank you, that's all I wanted. An sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #133

What you actually said was quoted a few times- if you didn't mean Mc Cain,you had ample opportunity bettyellen Aug 2014 #149

I see you are changing it now to 'I was reading your mind' sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #194

Quoting you is not reading your mind, lol.... bettyellen Aug 2014 #201

"I look forward to your link showing me comparing Obama to McCain."... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #127

I quoted her and asked for clarification- which republican nominee was she speaking of... bettyellen Aug 2014 #172

No you didn't do that ... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #203

the quote: bettyellen Aug 2014 #206

That was NOT what I asked you for. I asked you to provide PROOF of the words YOU attributed to ME sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #212

Where did I say it was "No big deal" That is a lie. bettyellen Aug 2014 #213

That quote has nothing to do with what you made up and tried to attribute to ME. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #215

LOL. Now Bernie is the Repbulican you say we might as well voted for, HILARIOUS. bettyellen Aug 2014 #216

Link to that please, 'the Republican you say'. For those reading, the person I was referring to sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #217

You've made my point of my post to you all over again… Thanks... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #220

She can't because it isn't there. The conversation, so YOU understand was about Bernie Sanders. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #214

"more Republicans in his cabinet, what exactly would the difference be if you had actually voted for bettyellen Aug 2014 #219

Here, let's try this again. Since clearly you do not wish to go back and read the thread, let's try sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #222

That's right, sabrina… sorry I didn't track it all the way back... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #221

Re-igniting a war isn't "small stuff." LuvNewcastle Aug 2014 #21

You can't just demand that voters vote DEM no matter what. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #34

Maybe, but they can't expect any progress treestar Aug 2014 #161

It's not about expecting a party to "cater" to anyone. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #227

I don't see how any one member of a party can expect it to do anything in particular treestar Aug 2014 #229

It's not just "any one member"...especially if you're seeing it all over DU. Ken Burch Aug 2014 #230

No, THAT'S how Republicans get elected-- on the DEM ticket. Marr Aug 2014 #38

You proved my point right on cue lol sunnystarr Aug 2014 #49

But what happens when your party is overrun by corporate backed rightwingers? Generic Other Aug 2014 #69

Then support those people sunnystarr Aug 2014 #73

The people who support these policies are not encouraged Generic Other Aug 2014 #76

I hope it's not offensive to say I find your post offensive. (nt) sunnystarr Aug 2014 #77

21,900 posts Generic Other Aug 2014 #81

Actually I was a big fan of V for Vendetta sunnystarr Aug 2014 #82

The Democratic party pretty much ignored the Occupiers Generic Other Aug 2014 #89

So now getting masks for my grandchildren sunnystarr Aug 2014 #97

Occupy movement was treated as terrorists by Obama admin who spied on and targeted Generic Other Aug 2014 #101

I get it. merrily Aug 2014 #185

What have I said that is alertworthy? Generic Other Aug 2014 #190

Please see Reply 86. merrily Aug 2014 #191

Sorry not meant to imply Generic Other Aug 2014 #193

At this stage, you can say you won't for HC. merrily Aug 2014 #195

DNC doesn't want to represent millions of us, we are politically inconvenient. whereisjustice Aug 2014 #15

Looks like you have figured it out. zeemike Aug 2014 #24

2 here whogave up on the DEMS. Unprincipled hacks who pay faint lip service to the Party Plank, then blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #19

What are you doing on DEMOCRATICunderground then?? sunnystarr Aug 2014 #50

Or maybe the party should stop being the GOP of the 80s and get back to something cui bono Aug 2014 #104

Same reason Catholics use birth control. Orsino Aug 2014 #143

+100 Funny, truthful and a crying shame...all at one time n/t Sheepshank Aug 2014 #198

I'm a Democrat who has no trouble voting Green when the (D) candidate strary too far right. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #20

thomas jefferson and sally hemmings jonjensen Aug 2014 #27

Which has what to do with the quote? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #30

It's de rigeur these days to denigrate Jefferson Maedhros Aug 2014 #85

clinton not warren jonjensen Aug 2014 #26

Well, she won't get my vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #31

Thanks for such a GREAT historical example. Pholus Aug 2014 #57

Your ideas are...uninteresting. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #86

hitler was never elected to anything. KG Aug 2014 #224

Did you tell him Karl Rove thanks him? aikoaiko Aug 2014 #28

If you want people to believe that, you to work to make sure that Dem presidents don't do GOP things Ken Burch Aug 2014 #33

Not really. If you help another republican get back into office... aikoaiko Aug 2014 #40

he had tears streaming down his face ? JI7 Aug 2014 #35

So did I. zappaman Aug 2014 #36

LOL bettyellen Aug 2014 #79

overdone part of the story treestar Aug 2014 #155

did seem a little over done...right? Sheepshank Aug 2014 #199

Yes, that certainly is interesting. Jeff Rosenzweig Aug 2014 #37

I wish everyone would refuse to vote Dem if the Dem candidate is crap. Vattel Aug 2014 #41

Most sensible response on the thread. nt woo me with science Aug 2014 #44

That's it, right there. The only thing that will work. Autumn Aug 2014 #55

+1 840high Aug 2014 #62

INDEED! Maedhros Aug 2014 #87

Exactly. 99Forever Aug 2014 #146

In North Carolina, he could be a Green Party member mmonk Aug 2014 #42

Cool story bro. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #43

20 years is a big chunk of life. Octafish Aug 2014 #46

Ya Know It's Funny Oct... He Was Obviously Drunk... And Visibly Upset... WillyT Aug 2014 #113

Well,this is a clever way to get around the "no advocating for a sufrommich Aug 2014 #58

This. Bobbie Jo Aug 2014 #59

Ain't it though? zappaman Aug 2014 #64

Indeed Indeed ... this has me LIVID! (nt) sunnystarr Aug 2014 #74

but would hosts actually lock something advocating voting third party these days? musing @ slavery bettyellen Aug 2014 #80

Well.... zappaman Aug 2014 #94

It's interesting how frequently people start anti- Dem or liberal OPs expressing other's ideas..... bettyellen Aug 2014 #98

It's fascinating, ain't it? n/t zappaman Aug 2014 #99

it's interesting to see who gives them the "benefit of the doubt" because we should coddle the RW bettyellen Aug 2014 #100

If you listened to the statement and description of the neighbor described in the OP... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #129

The OP is more about what's happened to the Democratic Party. Octafish Aug 2014 #83

Exactly. n/t cui bono Aug 2014 #105

^^THIS^^ [n/t] stranger81 Aug 2014 #106

Exactly. People wouldnt be looking for alternatives if the Dem party maintained a real platform Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #142

+1000000000 woo me with science Aug 2014 #173

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2014 #92

I;m very close 840high Aug 2014 #60

Never give up sunnystarr Aug 2014 #75

Don't see much to fight for - they 840high Aug 2014 #107

I hope he learns that since Green isn't registered in 50 states, he'll just be wasting his vote. ancianita Aug 2014 #88

Shhhhh! zappaman Aug 2014 #91

We should want all Green voters' votes! Even crybabies! ancianita Aug 2014 #96

We failed him treestar Aug 2014 #158

You have made a head-scratching and nonsensical OP an absolutely hilarious thread Number23 Aug 2014 #204

The party left him - and a lot of us too. It's sad alright. polichick Aug 2014 #93

What were you smoking? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #103

Really, tears? frazzled Aug 2014 #120

Oh Yeah... He Was Pretty Drunk... And Melancholy... His Eyes Were Already Swollen... WillyT Aug 2014 #126

Well ... frazzled Aug 2014 #150

And Thanks For Assigning Motives... It's Funny Who One meets In A Company Town... WillyT Aug 2014 #157

This reminds me of 1968 locks Aug 2014 #130

Absolutely right, locks... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #132

So your thinking led to ... frazzled Aug 2014 #154

This reminds me of the character in Primary Colors, WillyT... MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #131

Yeah... It Was A Snippet Post... That Apparently Exposed The Soft Belly Of The Democratic Party... WillyT Aug 2014 #135

sold their souls to wall street. campaign $$$. pansypoo53219 Aug 2014 #140

"Not in my name" is as valid a sentiment as "I have chosen to stay and fight." Orsino Aug 2014 #147

I like this. merrily Aug 2014 #189

The party consists of party members (us); the state of the party is the result of our actions. Chathamization Aug 2014 #148

No surprise there treestar Aug 2014 #153

I'm a registered Green who votes the Democratic ticket. antiquie Aug 2014 #156

your neighbor is not alone RedstDem Aug 2014 #159

So did I. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #180

A fable: Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2014 #196

Exactly Right... Thank You For That... WillyT Aug 2014 #200

Should be an OP. Octafish Aug 2014 #218