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The invisible victims of victimless crime [View all] BainsBane Aug 2014 OP

The finite shades of grey seveneyes Aug 2014 #1

Thank you for sharing your story. redqueen Aug 2014 #2

Thank you for listening BainsBane Aug 2014 #4

I think I know the hide you're referring to. redqueen Aug 2014 #9

Just found the links in your sig. That needs to be said, but DU won't let it be said. freshwest Aug 2014 #23

No, I was referring to a nasty one from someone else. redqueen Aug 2014 #72

The goal is not to channel them to adult prostitutes. jeff47 Aug 2014 #13

Police found that the number of underage street prlstitutes *increased* in Nevada. redqueen Aug 2014 #17

Because black markets make the problems worse. jeff47 Aug 2014 #24

There's only one county in Nevada where prostitution is legal Yavin4 Aug 2014 #92

It's legal in any of the rural counties. 8 of them have brothels. jeff47 Aug 2014 #111

There really is no simple, perfect solution. They all come with serious drawbacks. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #99

But if it was legal, prostitutes could work out of a Starbucks! leftstreet Aug 2014 #3

"Gentlemen's Starbucks Latte" -- sign in the movie "Idiocracy" Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2014 #43

But weren't those men trying to engage in illegal prositution? Nt Logical Aug 2014 #5

Do you actually think BainsBane Aug 2014 #7

But what does your story have to do with legalizing and regulating prostitution? Will asshole... Logical Aug 2014 #10

Bingo. Thread has nothing to do with legalizing prostitution LittleBlue Aug 2014 #18

Are you prepared to put the prostitution in your neighborhood? BainsBane Aug 2014 #63

Prostitution is already in my neighborhood LittleBlue Aug 2014 #65

Really? How do you know? BainsBane Aug 2014 #66

Not every prostitute walks the streets LittleBlue Aug 2014 #70

I can see why you don't want legalization in your neighborhood BainsBane Aug 2014 #74

Internet, probably TransitJohn Aug 2014 #96

If you know of it only through the internet BainsBane Aug 2014 #97

Didn't say that I did. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #102

I would submit that given the context of this thread BainsBane Aug 2014 #103

Whatever. TransitJohn Aug 2014 #106

Then work to legalize it there BainsBane Aug 2014 #69

How about no? LittleBlue Aug 2014 #71

That shows a complete and utter lack of knowledge of the law BainsBane Aug 2014 #73

I can't want it legalized over the entire nation? LittleBlue Aug 2014 #76

trying to legalize it "nationaly' but not by Federal legeslation, NM_Birder Aug 2014 #108

Because it is the experience of what it is like to live among prostitution BainsBane Aug 2014 #47

More like pedophilia n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #8

I addressed your response as soon as I saw it. However, your experience occurred under La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #6

No, it isn't BainsBane Aug 2014 #26

BainsBane is saying that due to the police being paid off, it was effectively legal where she was Scootaloo Aug 2014 #27

but since it really wasn't legal, just protected dsc Aug 2014 #33

Yes, but that's a case of police corruption, more than anything, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #34

Were the police making people proposition kids or something? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #37

"there can be multiple problems afoot in a scenario, you know" Yes, I know. I know. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #42

No, it's a case of men seeing humans as objects to buy and use BainsBane Aug 2014 #64

that is def not the same as legalized. corrupt policing is one of the biggest problems La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #46

I understand you addressed it BainsBane Aug 2014 #30

Well stated. We have commodified woman's bodies for decades now el_bryanto Aug 2014 #11

Also, thanks for calling out this neoliberal spin for what it is. redqueen Aug 2014 #12

How does keeping prostitution illegal help the prostitutes? (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #14

It clearly doesn't LittleBlue Aug 2014 #19

It may not help the prostitutes BainsBane Aug 2014 #25

I understand it has wider effects. jeff47 Aug 2014 #32

Because we got rid of that stuff BainsBane Aug 2014 #35

Not legalizing it could also bring it back. jeff47 Aug 2014 #39

I think what has made the difference BainsBane Aug 2014 #44

Actually, I have engaged on that. jeff47 Aug 2014 #45

You'd rather "bring up" poor areas BainsBane Aug 2014 #68

Actually, you have no idea what my thoughts are jeff47 Aug 2014 #110

You didn't talk about moving it out of my area BainsBane Aug 2014 #122

It certainly hurts the victims of trafficking that results kcr Aug 2014 #50

Sure they are. Trafficking is not required. jeff47 Aug 2014 #112

Yes, and it's much easier to do when they hide among legalized prostitution kcr Aug 2014 #127

Except it doesn't. jeff47 Aug 2014 #131

Why haven't you replied to this post? redqueen Aug 2014 #133

Got busy. Replying now (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #135

Last sentence and all of it. Perfect. Attempting to compose a longer, suitable answer for later. freshwest Aug 2014 #15

Do you have a link to the post you wrote during the 50 shades threads BainsBane Aug 2014 #88

I found it and this is an edit of it to apply to this here, but the original post is at the link: freshwest Aug 2014 #89

Excellent post, freshwest. Really gets the whole of it all. The World Wide View on a larger scale Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #116

I nearly missed this! BainsBane Aug 2014 #126

How does keeping prostitution illegal help that? jeff47 Aug 2014 #16

Neighborhood groups have worked hard to get that stuff out BainsBane Aug 2014 #21

That doesn't really answer the question jeff47 Aug 2014 #28

Germany legalized prostitution a decade ago mythology Aug 2014 #49

Already covered that above. The German model is not the only way. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #113

This study tracks 121 different countries BainsBane Aug 2014 #132

Studies in fact show that legalization leads to increased human trafficking BainsBane Aug 2014 #67

Which is why they found almost no trafficking in the UK. jeff47 Aug 2014 #114

"Human trafficking to UK 'rising'" redqueen Aug 2014 #117

It was called Pentameter Two jeff47 Aug 2014 #136

We have cited an academic study BainsBane Aug 2014 #139

What makes you think I haven't? jeff47 Aug 2014 #144

having lived in a red district neighborhood hopemountain Aug 2014 #20

Thank you BainsBane Aug 2014 #22

I'm so sorry you had to deal with all that. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #29

Welcome back, Joe BainsBane Aug 2014 #31

Perhaps, you might read more ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #81

It works if Turbineguy Aug 2014 #36

If you believe in neoliberalism BainsBane Aug 2014 #38

Thank you so much for that! freshwest Aug 2014 #52

you were a victim of wouldbe criminals stupidicus Aug 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Aug 2014 #77

Equating human beings to a bag of weed BainsBane Aug 2014 #79

who did that "equating"? stupidicus Aug 2014 #118

The reason I referenced "buying human beings" BainsBane Aug 2014 #141

Um... redqueen Aug 2014 #80

a good pedophile can tell BainsBane Aug 2014 #84

I can't believe no one seems very bothered by that idea. redqueen Aug 2014 #85

too funny stupidicus Aug 2014 #119

"... the diff between an innocent little girl like you and a kid that chose prostitution." redqueen Aug 2014 #120

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The point you obviously miss BainsBane Aug 2014 #123

I can't believe someone voted to leave that sickening post. redqueen Aug 2014 #128

I alerted on the results BainsBane Aug 2014 #130

I am sorry you had to endure that. NO child, anywhere, should be subjected ... 11 Bravo Aug 2014 #41

Thank you. BainsBane Aug 2014 #48

Thank you for opening that window to us, BainsBane. nt Hekate Aug 2014 #51

Kicking because this should be on the Greatest Page or Trending, and it 's not.. freshwest Aug 2014 #53

Thanks, freshwest BainsBane Aug 2014 #54

This looks mainly like a class issue to me eridani Aug 2014 #55

yes BainsBane Aug 2014 #56

Having it in *their* shiny neighborhood would remove the thrill right away, no? freshwest Aug 2014 #61

No, they don't want to hear BainsBane Aug 2014 #62

Yeah, it sure does suck when people ignore someone's first-hand experiences LadyHawkAZ Aug 2014 #57

I haven't done that BainsBane Aug 2014 #58

A 2012 study published in World Development, “Does Legalized Prostitution Increase Human Trafficking LanternWaste Aug 2014 #59

good info BainsBane Aug 2014 #60

And the increase in trafficking is just one ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #82

What do you think is worse? BainsBane Aug 2014 #83

The collateral damage experienced by ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #86

I gotta go with slavery, Istrong BainsBane Aug 2014 #87

K&R Garthem Aug 2014 #75

Honestly ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #78

This thread is eye-opening to me YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #90

entitlement is the operative word BainsBane Aug 2014 #91

I prefer using the term "libertarian" YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #93

I can think of a lot of terms I'd use BainsBane Aug 2014 #94

exactly, even legalization will not mean it will be available everywhere JI7 Aug 2014 #95

Evidenced by the fact that not one proponent of legalization BainsBane Aug 2014 #98

Same logic conservatives use to defend sweatshops. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #129

but they told Romney they loved it JI7 Aug 2014 #140

I don't see how anyone can think that legalization is some magic bullet. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #100

An incredibly difficult subject BB intaglio Aug 2014 #101

Did you notice this post? redqueen Aug 2014 #109

I didn't notice it specifically because I knew that already intaglio Aug 2014 #115

Thank you for your post BB! This is not an easy issue like some believe. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #104

Thank you, Justin BainsBane Aug 2014 #105

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...and just like clockwork, the vile, anti-feminist trolling resumes here YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #124

Yeah, I saw that. BainsBane Aug 2014 #125

That is just... Any credibility he might have, on any subject, he torpedoed with that post. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #134

The advantage BainsBane Aug 2014 #137

And it shows that legalization is not the blanket solution some think it is. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #138

I think the solution lies in figuring out how to minimize the BainsBane Aug 2014 #142

Exactly. We need to take the blinders off and really *look* at the real-world effects. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #143

I can't believe that poster hasn't been banned. PassingFair Aug 2014 #148

In case anyone is wondering who the "imaginary victim" is BainsBane Aug 2014 #145

Related. proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #146

And we have had people here BainsBane Aug 2014 #147