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Violet_Crumble

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23. Sorry. I haven't been keeping up with all these threads...
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

I missed you saying that. I'm a bit crook and only at DU on and off the past few days. Anyway, I disagree on the total blame thing. Both Hamas and the current extreme RW Israeli government are complete bastards who I detest. Hamas is totally to blame for the rockets they fire at Israel. Israel is totally to blame for every missile and bomb that they fire at Gaza.

Hamas knows they don't have the ability to do any great harm to Israel with those rockets, which are crude and basic. They also know that Iron Dome's going to take care of the vast majority of them. They fire them to get a response out of Israel. And in Israel there's a particularly stupid and hard-line RW government that's been itching to get into a fight. They respond with the equivalent of someone using a hammer to crush an ant. The response has been one where while Israel isn't deliberately targeting civilians, but doesn't care if civilians are killed in the process. I'm finding it particularly disturbing that they've hit UNRWA shelters which are sheltering displaced civilians after UNRWA has sent them the coordinates several times. I'm also finding it disturbing that Hamas has been the first to kick things off again after the cease-fire ended.

I have seen some posts discussing the views of Palestinians in the Middle East. Nobody likes them. Not as much as Israel does (the hatred from segments of the Israeli population is dehumanising and horrible), but the Palestinians as a whole are seen as a pain in the arse. Which is sad, because they deserve their own state in the West Bank and Gaza, and they deserve far better than what they're getting now...

Mild compared to the reality and other photos available...it is an outrage beyond your average Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #1
Disgusting 4now Aug 2014 #2
Gosh, I can't imagine why the Palestinians are so grumpy about Israel. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #3
or the rest of the world is finally beginning to push back on Israel. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #4
Where are the massive demonstrations? leftynyc Aug 2014 #5
perhaps you don't recognize the word, "beginning" hlthe2b Aug 2014 #6
As do mine leftynyc Aug 2014 #7
One side blames the perpetrators AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #12
I don't blame the leftynyc Aug 2014 #13
You excuse the barbarity AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #15
Where EXACTLY did I excuse it? leftynyc Aug 2014 #16
While I do not condone what Hamas has done, should the Palestinians have just let the Israelis Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #18
You said it right in your post leftynyc Aug 2014 #20
You asked that question in another thread and were answered. I ANSWERED IT. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #25
Photo number 9.......there are no words...the IDF "humanity" shown is beyond describing in words. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #8
Netanyahoo is a devil. an evil fucking monster. JaydenD Aug 2014 #9
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #10
And yet, posters ON THIS VERY SITE defend and justify this barbarity. Maedhros Aug 2014 #11
I don't see that at all leftynyc Aug 2014 #14
But you justified the destruction of Gaza upthread... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #21
I think Israel was too heavy handed and have leftynyc Aug 2014 #22
Sorry. I haven't been keeping up with all these threads... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #23
Well, we agree that the Palestinians leftynyc Aug 2014 #24
Time to negotiate a settlement. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #17
I think that is the first time I've ever seen graffiti... egduj Aug 2014 #19
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