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53. The Palestinians pay a high price for their choices

Reply to Jefferson23 (Reply #49)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 12:08 PM

Aug 2014

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Is it time for an international (armed) aid operation to Gaza? [View all] muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 OP

Tastes like Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #1

Like the Berlin airlift? CJCRANE Aug 2014 #2

Yes, that's the general idea muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #3

Has the West actually helped any country rebuild in this century? CJCRANE Aug 2014 #5

Kosovo (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #10

Wasn't that in the 90s? CJCRANE Aug 2014 #12

Started in 1999; UN and EU have had a presence there since then muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #13

I want a Peacekeeping plan, action, something duhneece Aug 2014 #30

That is because they do not want to rebuild. They do not care about the mess they have made of the jwirr Aug 2014 #35

Good idea and it looks like the world is finally waking up malaise Aug 2014 #9

Hmmm, a very interesting question to contemplate! - n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #20

Looked it up and found this from July 28th aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #50

Maybe if we gave Gaza a missile defense system too. B Calm Aug 2014 #4

it's not very likely to happen... but... Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #6

When does Egypt bombard Gaza? JVS Aug 2014 #7

They shut one border muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #11

Mostly for the aid US gives Egypt to maintain its peace treaty with Israel - n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #24

Israel likely to use "Samson option"... HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #8

The world, especially the Arab world, hates Hamas more hack89 Aug 2014 #14

Almost all of South America has withdrawn diplomats. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #15

No surprise there. former9thward Aug 2014 #18

We are talking about countries with global power hack89 Aug 2014 #23

Hamas isn't the issue, and by the end of this, as happened with Lebanon, Hamas is sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #22

Look at the slaughter in the ME beyond Gaza hack89 Aug 2014 #26

We caused a lot of that over decades of supporting Dictators. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #28

You need to seperate the leadership from the citizens, if you have not, you're Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #33

Arab leaders are either kings or despots hack89 Aug 2014 #37

No, what I am trying to tell you is the leadership does not represent their citizens views Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #38

No shit hack89 Aug 2014 #45

Well, that was not reflective in your comment I responded to, you seem to have been under the Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #49

The Palestinians pay a high price for their choices hack89 Aug 2014 #53

Hamas's Choices: Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #54

They could completely renounce violence and recognize Israel oberliner Aug 2014 #64

The fact that no one wants to see. They're tired of Hamas and despise Iran. 7962 Aug 2014 #34

Realistically speaking, I believe that the Israel's military exploitations ladjf Aug 2014 #16

Yes , they need MORE rockets...firing 2600 isn't enough. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #17

Did you read my post, or only the title, which you then misinterpreted? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #39

Not going to happen... the Saudis want Hamas finished off... JCMach1 Aug 2014 #19

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #21

That was the case, but there is a shift in the attitude of the US this time. And in sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #25

Enjoy your stay. L0oniX Aug 2014 #31

I wish I could count how many times that was told to me IronGate Aug 2014 #58

Enjoy your stay. L0oniX Aug 2014 #60

Just about as I figured. IronGate Aug 2014 #62

Maybe start with a donation to Oxfam? oberliner Aug 2014 #27

Money doesn't stop Israel from controlling the aid sent muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #40

With the current emergency situation going on in Gaza oberliner Aug 2014 #41

That has not solved the problem in the past 14 years, we need a new approach muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #44

Not sure the new approach should be an "international armed aid operation" oberliner Aug 2014 #47

Someone has to stand up to the arms that Israel uses muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #48

Who would distribute the aid on the Gaza side? oberliner Aug 2014 #51

UNRWA needs a way of getting everything in without the Israelis controlling it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #52

"People can't live on money" oberliner Aug 2014 #59

Hey, you're free to go join the terror org Hamas, IronGate Aug 2014 #55

I'm glad to know you're no longer armed muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #56

Oh, I'm still armed, privately and with the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. IronGate Aug 2014 #57

Past time madokie Aug 2014 #29

You ask for armed intervention against Israel. philly_bob Aug 2014 #32

No, this would be delivery of humanitarian aid direct to Gaza muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #43

Flotillas would be crazy. Moreover, remember the humanitarian crisis WE CAUSED IN IRAQ?? WinkyDink Aug 2014 #36

It wouldn't have to be the US doing it. Turkey looks likely to try, already muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #42

No, just that we have no moral high ground. But rest assured: Israel remembers Masada. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #75

It could be done without open conflict. Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #46

You see this happening with Israel's cooperation? oberliner Aug 2014 #63

Not so much cooperation as dragging them into the party. Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #66

Several hundred truckloads of aid cross into Gaza every day oberliner Aug 2014 #67

Then why the suggestion for armed international flotillas to go to Gaza? Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #68

Not sure oberliner Aug 2014 #69

The difference between what is being done vs what it might be time for is. Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #70

I can't tell if we are agreeing or disagreeing oberliner Aug 2014 #73

To me it seemed, the OP assumed relief supplies were not being given to or not reaching Gaza Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #74

Supplies do not 'pour in' to Gaza, ever muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #80

Your link is outdated oberliner Aug 2014 #82

Amnesty International, July 2014: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #87

I still say a peaceful way can be found. Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #84

It wouldn't be an 'overreach of force' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Aug 2014 #71

Sure, if someone feels like declaring war on the U.S. Enrique Aug 2014 #61

For what it's worth... oberliner Aug 2014 #65

And you know this to be cornball 24 Aug 2014 #79

How about the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East? oberliner Aug 2014 #81

Thank you. cornball 24 Aug 2014 #86

Israel is concerned with weapons and the diversion of construction materials. hack89 Aug 2014 #72

So, intervention in Gaza: GOOD. Intervention in Syria: BAD. brooklynite Aug 2014 #76

Intervention in Gaza is possible; part of it already happens muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #77

Russia vetoes UN intervention in Syria. The US will veto any UN intervention in Gaza. pampango Aug 2014 #78

yes, it's always time for war 2pooped2pop Aug 2014 #83