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In reply to the discussion: Fifty Shades of Grey depicts RAPE and has been criticized by BDSM advocates [View all]Peacetrain
(23,559 posts)51. Haven't read it.. have no plans to read it..for one simple reason
From all the outtakes I HAVE read.. it reminds me so much of a time when the woman would always look to the man to be this big strong person.. the more daddy like the better.. excuse me while I throw up..
Does not sound the least bit interesting.. cannot even begin to get what is titillating about it.. mommie porn?? who came up with such a goofy term..
But if getting spanked like a little child used to be in the bad old days of parenting.. is what you find sexy.. I do not even know where to begin to go with that.
It sounds stupid to me..
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Fifty Shades of Grey depicts RAPE and has been criticized by BDSM advocates [View all]
BainsBane
Jul 2014
OP
"Red and "yellow" are the safe words they use. He does not break into her house.
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#2
I read the book, Bane. I didn't rely on a synopsis. I can tell you exactly why
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#4
Well, it would inform your argument more. There is a rape...but since you didn't bother
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#233
Oh sure....you let me know what academic mental masturbation from journals you find. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#235
You are directing that insult towards a woman with three graduate degrees. A woman who
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#249
Chronicling the emotional abuse and nonconsensual sexual violence by feminists and BDSM researchers,
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#265
I told you that I had read some of it. At least 6-7 chapters of the first and a sample of chapters
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#273
Except in her head which expresses over and over again that she is frightened. And after
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#277
Indeed. The oppressed should just shut the fuck up and then magically the oppressor will stop
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#281
You flat out stated that I am giving her free marketing. How do you suggest I stop doing that?
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#286
She didn't sign the contract until chapter 14. The rape depicted in the OP
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#67
Someone published a journal article analyzing the behavior of a fictional character?
Drahthaardogs
Jul 2014
#192
Ah, it has now become apparent that you do not understand what a Journal Article represents
Drahthaardogs
Jul 2014
#260
Acting like a contract actually means anything is one of the things I have against this book.
moriah
Jul 2014
#98
Even if it is consensual sex it still begs the question as to why people are aroused by it . . .
kickitup
Jul 2014
#19
Maybe so, maybe not. But I don't believe that comparing human behavior with the behavior of
Zorra
Jul 2014
#258
If it bothers you that you like it, either don't practice it or see a therapist.
moriah
Jul 2014
#32
I didn't alert anyone about your post. I also didn't ask you to tell me why I'm aroused by anything
kickitup
Jul 2014
#131
Yet some are aroused at the idea of whipping their spouse, and so is their spouse, and they....
moriah
Jul 2014
#133
You are really making some assumptions that I don't think my original post merits.
kickitup
Jul 2014
#139
Your post, while claiming to not be from the morality police, pretty much asked ...
moriah
Jul 2014
#140
The assumption you are making and that I was alluding to is about my sexuality.
kickitup
Jul 2014
#156
I certainly don't, and as someone with a graduate degree in literary studies I have been trained . .
kickitup
Jul 2014
#136
I tried to read it but it set off sirens of triggers. Ohio State researchers did a great job
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#127
Then why does anyone bother to study literature, let alone for years and years
cui bono
Jul 2014
#217
Ohio State researchers exposed the normalization of abuse. And their point we are the component of
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#218
I was not upset by the exchange WE were having. I read some of the book but better still
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#262
As a feminist I object to the sexualization of abusive behavior. I do not object to mutual agreed
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#268
I can and will protest against portrayals of abused women as normal. As have any other oppressed
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#275
Well, I've reached three people via PM, none of which have posted on this thread, which is not
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#280
The people who enjoyed minstrel shows and the black people who participated in them
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#284
Thankfully, we have BDSM experts who speak for everyone invloved in the activity
AngryAmish
Jul 2014
#7
If the synopsis accurately depicted events in the book I would agree with you. But ...
11 Bravo
Jul 2014
#10
It's not worth trying. It's amazing how many people who aren't into BDSM find it so easy...
moriah
Jul 2014
#24
Evidently exploring one's emotions in regard to sex is a reason to see a therapist . . .
kickitup
Jul 2014
#158
Well, define what your phrase about imposing tastes means! Burden of proof is on the speaker, always
alp227
Jul 2014
#153
And Clique A wields a lot of power. They seem to be more dedicated. Just sayin'. nm
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#312
I hope you aren't pretending that you don't recognize that one group here
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#338
Right. Complaining about the mention of Dworkin while simultaenously pulling "MRA" out of thin air.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#187
False equivalence - when women are conned into liking a book that allegedly glamourizes rape...
alp227
Jul 2014
#147
Slick marketing and taking advantage of a populace that is not well-informed about sex,
alp227
Jul 2014
#189
I don't buy it. I seriously doubt you can blame the popularity of 50 shades on 'abstinence only'
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#190
Regardless, my OP makes no comment on what women should or shouldn't 't like
BainsBane
Jul 2014
#191
I'm going to need a citation on that. Last time I read any pedophilia fiction it was not only...
JVS
Jul 2014
#54
And pedophilia relates how to consensual activities among Adults of decision-making age?
brooklynite
Jul 2014
#79
It relates to the point that because it is fictional it does not hurt anyone.
CBGLuthier
Jul 2014
#107
I have not, will not, read it. If it is nonconsensual, that is wrong and bullshit. If consensual,
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#74
It makes perfect sense in the larger discussion, since you brought up the BDSM community.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#121
Then I suggest you consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word hypocrisy
BainsBane
Jul 2014
#149
I haven't said anyone is "all the same", nor have I accused you of hypocrisy.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#152
Let's get something straight (no puns intended) the BSDM "Community" is outraged at this OP.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#254
This is basically like saying that porn isn't a realistic portrayal of sex (duh!)
Hippo_Tron
Jul 2014
#106
As an aside to the above, and possibly worth noting in discussions around this:
Spider Jerusalem
Jul 2014
#134
Again YOU are hiding behind other's views about a book you haven't even read.
newcriminal
Jul 2014
#185
This was discussed in the book, it didn't take place in the book. The op is about Christian
newcriminal
Jul 2014
#172
16 threads on this on the first page of GD. All gone now. Let's make it 17. Bye!
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2014
#184
"Fifty Shades of Grey depicts RAPE and has been criticized by BDSM advocates"......
Sissyk
Jul 2014
#198
i had to look it up to see what all the hoopla was for. "erotic romance novel" ok, a fiction story.
Sunlei
Jul 2014
#219
Let me see if I get your point here. You are outraged about a book that you haven't read.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#257
You haven't yet given me a valid point. If you wanted to say that criticism of the book and film
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#325
There is a vast body of academic feminist scholarship regarding romance novels.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#315
It is truly bizarre, planting the flag on something they have not even
nadinbrzezinski
Jul 2014
#330
That is fine don't read it, but don't keep insisting that you know what is in there if you haven't.
newcriminal
Jul 2014
#331
In in which Ohio State researchers outline 3 insistences of non-consenual sexual violence...
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#321
Indeed. A friend of mine was murdered while hanging from her restraints.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#266