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In reply to the discussion: Fifty Shades of Grey depicts RAPE and has been criticized by BDSM advocates [View all]AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)7. Thankfully, we have BDSM experts who speak for everyone invloved in the activity
Without experts to speak for everyone people would be compelled to make up their own minds. We are all in their debt.
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Fifty Shades of Grey depicts RAPE and has been criticized by BDSM advocates [View all]
BainsBane
Jul 2014
OP
"Red and "yellow" are the safe words they use. He does not break into her house.
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#2
I read the book, Bane. I didn't rely on a synopsis. I can tell you exactly why
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#4
Well, it would inform your argument more. There is a rape...but since you didn't bother
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#233
Oh sure....you let me know what academic mental masturbation from journals you find. nt
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#235
You are directing that insult towards a woman with three graduate degrees. A woman who
msanthrope
Jul 2014
#249
Chronicling the emotional abuse and nonconsensual sexual violence by feminists and BDSM researchers,
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#265
I told you that I had read some of it. At least 6-7 chapters of the first and a sample of chapters
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#273
Except in her head which expresses over and over again that she is frightened. And after
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#277
Indeed. The oppressed should just shut the fuck up and then magically the oppressor will stop
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#281
You flat out stated that I am giving her free marketing. How do you suggest I stop doing that?
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#286
She didn't sign the contract until chapter 14. The rape depicted in the OP
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#67
Someone published a journal article analyzing the behavior of a fictional character?
Drahthaardogs
Jul 2014
#192
Ah, it has now become apparent that you do not understand what a Journal Article represents
Drahthaardogs
Jul 2014
#260
Acting like a contract actually means anything is one of the things I have against this book.
moriah
Jul 2014
#98
Even if it is consensual sex it still begs the question as to why people are aroused by it . . .
kickitup
Jul 2014
#19
Maybe so, maybe not. But I don't believe that comparing human behavior with the behavior of
Zorra
Jul 2014
#258
If it bothers you that you like it, either don't practice it or see a therapist.
moriah
Jul 2014
#32
I didn't alert anyone about your post. I also didn't ask you to tell me why I'm aroused by anything
kickitup
Jul 2014
#131
Yet some are aroused at the idea of whipping their spouse, and so is their spouse, and they....
moriah
Jul 2014
#133
You are really making some assumptions that I don't think my original post merits.
kickitup
Jul 2014
#139
Your post, while claiming to not be from the morality police, pretty much asked ...
moriah
Jul 2014
#140
The assumption you are making and that I was alluding to is about my sexuality.
kickitup
Jul 2014
#156
I certainly don't, and as someone with a graduate degree in literary studies I have been trained . .
kickitup
Jul 2014
#136
I tried to read it but it set off sirens of triggers. Ohio State researchers did a great job
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#127
Then why does anyone bother to study literature, let alone for years and years
cui bono
Jul 2014
#217
Ohio State researchers exposed the normalization of abuse. And their point we are the component of
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#218
I was not upset by the exchange WE were having. I read some of the book but better still
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#262
As a feminist I object to the sexualization of abusive behavior. I do not object to mutual agreed
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#268
I can and will protest against portrayals of abused women as normal. As have any other oppressed
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#275
Well, I've reached three people via PM, none of which have posted on this thread, which is not
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#280
The people who enjoyed minstrel shows and the black people who participated in them
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#284
Thankfully, we have BDSM experts who speak for everyone invloved in the activity
AngryAmish
Jul 2014
#7
If the synopsis accurately depicted events in the book I would agree with you. But ...
11 Bravo
Jul 2014
#10
It's not worth trying. It's amazing how many people who aren't into BDSM find it so easy...
moriah
Jul 2014
#24
Evidently exploring one's emotions in regard to sex is a reason to see a therapist . . .
kickitup
Jul 2014
#158
Well, define what your phrase about imposing tastes means! Burden of proof is on the speaker, always
alp227
Jul 2014
#153
And Clique A wields a lot of power. They seem to be more dedicated. Just sayin'. nm
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#312
I hope you aren't pretending that you don't recognize that one group here
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#338
Right. Complaining about the mention of Dworkin while simultaenously pulling "MRA" out of thin air.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#187
False equivalence - when women are conned into liking a book that allegedly glamourizes rape...
alp227
Jul 2014
#147
Slick marketing and taking advantage of a populace that is not well-informed about sex,
alp227
Jul 2014
#189
I don't buy it. I seriously doubt you can blame the popularity of 50 shades on 'abstinence only'
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#190
Regardless, my OP makes no comment on what women should or shouldn't 't like
BainsBane
Jul 2014
#191
I'm going to need a citation on that. Last time I read any pedophilia fiction it was not only...
JVS
Jul 2014
#54
And pedophilia relates how to consensual activities among Adults of decision-making age?
brooklynite
Jul 2014
#79
It relates to the point that because it is fictional it does not hurt anyone.
CBGLuthier
Jul 2014
#107
I have not, will not, read it. If it is nonconsensual, that is wrong and bullshit. If consensual,
uppityperson
Jul 2014
#74
It makes perfect sense in the larger discussion, since you brought up the BDSM community.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#121
Then I suggest you consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word hypocrisy
BainsBane
Jul 2014
#149
I haven't said anyone is "all the same", nor have I accused you of hypocrisy.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2014
#152
Let's get something straight (no puns intended) the BSDM "Community" is outraged at this OP.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#254
This is basically like saying that porn isn't a realistic portrayal of sex (duh!)
Hippo_Tron
Jul 2014
#106
As an aside to the above, and possibly worth noting in discussions around this:
Spider Jerusalem
Jul 2014
#134
Again YOU are hiding behind other's views about a book you haven't even read.
newcriminal
Jul 2014
#185
This was discussed in the book, it didn't take place in the book. The op is about Christian
newcriminal
Jul 2014
#172
16 threads on this on the first page of GD. All gone now. Let's make it 17. Bye!
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2014
#184
"Fifty Shades of Grey depicts RAPE and has been criticized by BDSM advocates"......
Sissyk
Jul 2014
#198
i had to look it up to see what all the hoopla was for. "erotic romance novel" ok, a fiction story.
Sunlei
Jul 2014
#219
Let me see if I get your point here. You are outraged about a book that you haven't read.
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#257
You haven't yet given me a valid point. If you wanted to say that criticism of the book and film
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#325
There is a vast body of academic feminist scholarship regarding romance novels.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#315
It is truly bizarre, planting the flag on something they have not even
nadinbrzezinski
Jul 2014
#330
That is fine don't read it, but don't keep insisting that you know what is in there if you haven't.
newcriminal
Jul 2014
#331
In in which Ohio State researchers outline 3 insistences of non-consenual sexual violence...
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#321
Indeed. A friend of mine was murdered while hanging from her restraints.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2014
#266