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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts) Tue Jul 22, 2014, 08:35 PM Jul 2014

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It's time to start proceeding directly to Single Payer... [View all]

Do not pass go, don't collect private insurance lobby campaign funds.

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It's time to start proceeding directly to Single Payer... [View all] MrScorpio Jul 2014 OP

I completely agree onecaliberal Jul 2014 #1

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #18

IMO the Clowne Court will kill ACA onecaliberal Jul 2014 #25

That is not the majority opinion ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #29

I would be thrilled to be wrong. onecaliberal Jul 2014 #72

Who pays legal commentators? valerief Jul 2014 #86

The ones I listen to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #88

are there any blue dogs left? NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jul 2014 #90

I agree 100%--we need single payer. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #2

DEAR Mr. Scorpio, elleng Jul 2014 #3

Campaigning on Single Payer might be the way to achieve that BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #7

Good points, BrotherIvan. elleng Jul 2014 #9

Thanks, I hope I live to see it happen in this country BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #10

Amen.... daleanime Jul 2014 #26

you mean "was the way" Doctor_J Jul 2014 #21

Yes, it was a very big disappointment BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #27

It's because many Democrats take the campaign donations too! They then represent their Dustlawyer Jul 2014 #41

I agree with you very much BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #47

time to stop calling them campaign contributions and call them what they are Doctor_J Jul 2014 #105

You are exactly correct. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #67

Yeah, okay! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #83

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #33

I agree, Medicare is a winning brand BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #48

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #61

"why are they running the country as a minority?" Enthusiast Jul 2014 #66

Sadly, candidate Clinton has already said that she is against SP Doctor_J Jul 2014 #96

Well, hopefully it's all 11 dimensional chess BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #100

the first step to single payer is to get the vote out rurallib Jul 2014 #12

It can't be done. obxhead Jul 2014 #20

Not true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #35

^ THIS ^ mac56 Jul 2014 #76

I agree........... mrmpa Jul 2014 #87

The Dem HHS secretary has promised Big Insurance there will be no SP on her watch Doctor_J Jul 2014 #22

Vote #60 was Joe LIEberman (d?, Insurance companies) AndyTiedye Jul 2014 #51

you're going to blame this entire debacle on Lieberman? Really? Doctor_J Jul 2014 #54

K and R (nt) bigwillq Jul 2014 #4

How the heck are you going to get a single payer healthcare bill bigdarryl Jul 2014 #5

No kidding. They won't even agree to pay to maintain Eisenhower's highways. nt SunSeeker Jul 2014 #34

Good luck with that, in these United Corporate States of America! blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #6

knr, at the very least it should be included in discussions n/t slipslidingaway Jul 2014 #8

It is. Hillary Clinton, presumptive Dem (lol) nominee says she's dead set against it Doctor_J Jul 2014 #95

Sounds more like the policy by Dems of killing any discussion ... slipslidingaway Jul 2014 #106

At least put a feeler out to the public for Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #11

No need. Support for UHC usually polls north of 60%. Doctor_J Jul 2014 #97

Medicare for All, including dental, optical, hearing aids and mental health services. Scuba Jul 2014 #13

Sorry Scuba Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #17

I do not support socialized medicine......... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #19

I mean that the Government covers the costs of health care. Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #24

Sounds like Medicare for All to me! Scuba Jul 2014 #30

100% coverage. Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #50

Stamp. nt stillwaiting Jul 2014 #79

However, the UK came top in the Commonwealth Fund rankings muriel_volestrangler Jul 2014 #58

NHS Scarsdale Jul 2014 #60

That's 75 years away. RagAss Jul 2014 #14

Then we had best get started as soon as possible! scarletwoman Jul 2014 #16

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2014 #68

If the majority got behind it and vote, it could happen in five. lovemydog Jul 2014 #42

However, we now have a massive wall in front of us called the ACA. obxhead Jul 2014 #15

Perfection is the enemy of progress. Bad as it is, ACA is better than what we had before it. Scuba Jul 2014 #32

Wow. Even the ACA fan club is waking up. Doctor_J Jul 2014 #23

funny how quickly they all jumped on the "ACA is the gateway to Single Payer" bandwagon MisterP Jul 2014 #36

My position was that the ACA was always supposed to be a stepping stone to eventual SP MrScorpio Jul 2014 #37

how can a system that is the exact opposite of SP be a stepping stone to SP? Doctor_J Jul 2014 #53

In two ways... MrScorpio Jul 2014 #57

Alright, I guess I'll take back what I said about the BOG seeing the light Doctor_J Jul 2014 #91

That's why politics is hard, as is activism... MrScorpio Jul 2014 #102

You're so correct SummerSnow Jul 2014 #28

Agree Completely cantbeserious Jul 2014 #31

K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #38

Too late politically IMO. Bonobo Jul 2014 #39

"REBRANDED as socialism" defacto7 Jul 2014 #45

It's the same mistake Clinton made (IF it was a mistake) Bonobo Jul 2014 #49

Negotiation is a nice word isn't it? defacto7 Jul 2014 #56

Yep. State by state. N/T Chathamization Jul 2014 #40

I would hop on a bus to Washington, DC for a demonstration for single payer. lovemydog Jul 2014 #43

K&R. Yes please! Overseas Jul 2014 #44

I'll dream that dream. n/t defacto7 Jul 2014 #46

There IS the option for States to Do a Public Option IN the ACA AndyTiedye Jul 2014 #52

If only TT_Progress Jul 2014 #55

Um, the ACA locks the private, for-profit insurance industry into all our lives. By law. Forever. Romulox Jul 2014 #59

Widespread greed has made single payer an imperative. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #62

Lets win back congress and make this a reality! B Calm Jul 2014 #63

Our heir apparent to the 2016 Presidential Race would disagree with you... NorthCarolina Jul 2014 #64

PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #69

Thank You for posting that and for mentioning Third Way. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #81

As soon as you figure out how to make Republicans in the House pass the bill, I'll be there stevenleser Jul 2014 #65

It's already happening salib Jul 2014 #70

well, apparently getting it on the radar is our job stupidicus Jul 2014 #71

I totally agree... freebrew Jul 2014 #73

Haven't you heard? The battle for health care is over. We won. raouldukelives Jul 2014 #74

Can we get there from here, cilla4progress Jul 2014 #75

K&R n/t lupinella Jul 2014 #77

Why is Single Payer preferable to a UK-style National Health Service? pampango Jul 2014 #78

Way Past Time but, I nitpick. K&R Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #80

american citizens are moving to foreign demigoddess Jul 2014 #82

If I could make it happen, and afford it for myself and my daughter, I would be out of here Maedhros Jul 2014 #101

If the ACA act works well, we won't get there for a long time. hughee99 Jul 2014 #84

It's ALWAYS been time for that. nt valerief Jul 2014 #85

A-freaking-men! I love my VA single payer coverage. marble falls Jul 2014 #89

Campaign funds The Wizard Jul 2014 #92

It's coming zipplewrath Jul 2014 #93

k&r Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #94

Whip the votes in congress for HR 676 IronLionZion Jul 2014 #98

If only it were that easy. n/t devils chaplain Jul 2014 #99

Just got kicked out of new group signed into, not enough doctors. they moved us.... TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #103

100% correct my friend rustydog Jul 2014 #104