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In reply to the discussion: Americas exceptional hypocrisy - some remember Iran Air flight 655 [View all]Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)38. Straw man double yellow alert, mixed with red herrings.
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Americas exceptional hypocrisy - some remember Iran Air flight 655 [View all]
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
OP
LIES first ("plane off course"). Then DISGUSTING LIES (Indeed, the very SAME: "already-dead victims"
WinkyDink
Jul 2014
#2
The world needs an international Apology Act, admit your guilt, get a break,,,,,
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#5
Fuck, that would be awesome, the line of apology makers would be endless as history.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#13
oh for pity's sake: "nations without clean hands should not throw the first stones"
cali
Jul 2014
#6
Nations who throw missiles at commercial jets should not throw stones? Much better, thanks.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#7
Yeah, but lets attempt to be honest. American hypocrisy reaches scary heights.
CBGLuthier
Jul 2014
#8
Apparently being dead for 26 years means we should not consider the parallels relevant...?
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#24
Why don't you supply us with the logical cut off date? Not that it matters anyway, I mean
A Simple Game
Jul 2014
#68
Who said it was intentional? Half of the posts on DU say it was targeted because it was mistaken
A Simple Game
Jul 2014
#92
It was intentionally shot down, but I haven't seen reports or suggestions that
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#93
Supposed sins? No sense of this conversation continuing even if you could shake all of that
A Simple Game
Jul 2014
#94
Well said, and time passing of 20 years makes it less relevant because.......it does not. That was
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#95
I know it's painful for you, but sometimes you have to admit that the US is not the
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#35
Painful to even contemplate for some, others contemplating openly is almost as bad to them.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#45
Putin is George W. Bush. Actually, Dick Cheney. I'm fine with that, I hate them both.
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#87
Yeah, Putin's a monster when it comes to Gay People and journalists who cross him.. and now he's
Cha
Jul 2014
#104
Putin's just a poor misunderstood asshole dictator.. It's "The West!!" you have to watch out for. nm
Cha
Jul 2014
#107
It's very telling, how much energy goes into defending Putin and making sure we all know
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#111
And we gave weapons to TERRROISTS in Libya, followed up on that disaster lately or is 'out of
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#102
The British had a plan to arm and train Syrian 100,000 rebels, but it was scrapped
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#110
Criticism is fine, just do not throw stones as if never having done exactly the same before.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#15
Please explain what you mean by "throwing stones" if that does not include criticism.
Coventina
Jul 2014
#21
Sorry, gotta go and mow the lawn and turn over some stones....lot of rain here lately.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#27
America can cast the second stone, we good? And the victims of Iran Air are just as dead today as
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#19
Actually, we didn't do something similar. Our military made the mistake--
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#40
Actually, we were--it was our military that was undeniably involved, whether or not
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#55
There were no mitigating circumstances. As part of the payout, we accepted and were assigned no
mbperrin
Jul 2014
#58
I'm not getting your point. Did the US say "It was a planeload of dead zombie people"
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#65
I don't think we denied we did it. The controversy seemed to be whether or not
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#84
I wasn't being condescending at all, I was inviting you to check with a trusted source
mbperrin
Jul 2014
#101
Might makes right, my father told me, and who is mightier and therefore more right than America?
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#82
Never admitted it, no apologies.....kind of like American banks and how they pay for their crimes.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#32
I'm sure this will make the families of the passengers of Flight MH17 feel so much better.
conservaphobe
Jul 2014
#34
It's the UK's fault that Jean d Arc was burnt at the stake, so they cant prosecute anyone for murder
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#36
Say, have you bothered to voice your disapproval of what Putin's thugs have been doing?
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#42
The guided missile cruiser was state of the art, bristling with surveillance technology...hard to
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#48
I think the Ukrainian army has some, maybe someone stole one? Working theory only.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#57
I remember and I knew the press would ignore it. Because if we do it, it is a "Sorry."
McCamy Taylor
Jul 2014
#56
Did you really just say "All other countries AND TERRORIST CELLS never make a mistake"?
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#85
How would evidence Kieve air control diverted the flight path to take it over the war zone play
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#88
All information should be released, no evidence should be tampered with.
TwilightGardener
Jul 2014
#89
Here are some interesting maps on language and voting - East ?Ukraine in solidly Russian speaking
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#64
What about the actual perpetrators? Those who are/were "just following orders"?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2014
#73
America got Israel's planes, tanks and weapons operational also......and given for near free.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#78
The thing is I think Putin is a bad man, not a monster, but monster it must be....or else.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2014
#80
That's sweet you're sticking up for Putin not being a monster because first of all the
Cha
Jul 2014
#103
were the Germans Hypocrites for criticizing BUsh on Iraq because of their history ?
JI7
Jul 2014
#91
Rachel Maddow on this: recommended. The Russians have done this repeatedly; the US, once
Hekate
Jul 2014
#97
Sorry, Bad USA-Russia needs Pity.. Yeah, Rachel didn't follow that thinking last night.. she
Cha
Jul 2014
#106