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In reply to the discussion: The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was the fraud that started the Viet Nam War [View all]betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)8. I don't know that it was shot down on purpose at all.
Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2014, 05:38 PM - Edit history (1)
It could be a fubar on either side, but were it America, and were it a fubar on the other side, America would be motivated to use it to put the pressure on Putin. They can't forgive him for squashing their Syria plans.
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betterdemsonly
Jul 2014
OP
Gulf of Tonkin was a lie. There's really no disputing that the rebels did shoot down
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#1
Still waiting for your first fact supporting your thesis that the allegations
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#38
and the fact that the only ones shooting at aircraft in the area in the area
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#49
do you really claim that the fact that the rebels had shot down multiple planes
geek tragedy
Jul 2014
#53
Remember geek.. "America is bad, too".. We can blame this on Obama somehow. It couldn't have
Cha
Jul 2014
#79
I don't have to present evidence that anyone other than team russia did it
betterdemsonly
Jul 2014
#35
A Common Delusion, Sir: Democracy Does Not Mean Ignorance Is As Good As Knowledge
The Magistrate
Jul 2014
#64
Post your evidence, we have not seen any so far. I note that in the International media
sabrina 1
Jul 2014
#85
But..but.we can trust our government to never lie or distort anything.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2014
#4
That is true. But phony Tonkin ''attacks'' were the excuse LBJ used to send in draftees.
Octafish
Jul 2014
#34
Hopelessly conflating past and present events without a tie-in isn't making your point.
stevenleser
Jul 2014
#11
Don't forget the innocent babies that Iraqi soldiers dumped out of the incubators
RufusTFirefly
Jul 2014
#65