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29. The ultimate example I saw was when some New York tourists made a wrong turn....

Fri Jul 18, 2014, 04:21 PM

Jul 2014

They were in a rental car and ended up in a Palestinian neighborhood.

Some kids threw rocks at their car as they beat a hasty retreat.

Normally one would expect this to be settled by filling out an insurance claim at the rental car office.

Right?

Seriously,.....RIGHT?

Israel sent in a helicopter gunship which fired rockets at the local Palestinian police station because the cops should have been there to prevent those kids from throwing rocks.

That's considered to be a balanced response.

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The Rude Pundit: What's Happening in Gaza: A Savage and Obviously Anti-Semitic Blog Post [View all] meegbear Jul 2014 OP

"Disproportionate" Response hlthe2b Jul 2014 #1

+1 redqueen Jul 2014 #4

ooops responded to wrong post m-lekktor Jul 2014 #9

just out of curiousity...what is a proportionate response? backwoodsbob Jul 2014 #43

In that case... Shipwack Jul 2014 #48

why would they do that? backwoodsbob Jul 2014 #51

I'm glad somebody is amused by the killing of children. Chemisse Jul 2014 #119

just as I am glad you get so much amusement backwoodsbob Jul 2014 #130

Could you please cite your source for this? Chemisse Jul 2014 #147

Some can defend any attrocity... and I find engaging with them to be futile hlthe2b Jul 2014 #56

No, it's not a war. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #75

Good on you! IrishAyes Jul 2014 #78

Well said malaise Jul 2014 #84

Thank you! sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #104

you atr correct backwoodsbob Jul 2014 #115

War crimes BlueinOhio Jul 2014 #137

And just because somebody said so (sounds like Patton), IrishAyes Jul 2014 #77

International law sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #135

and yet Israel has gained backwoodsbob Jul 2014 #142

They're fighting a Ground Hog Day war. sulphurdunn Jul 2014 #146

this is a war where one side has most of the weapons, does most of the killing, and ALL yurbud Jul 2014 #141

So you agree that the Palestinians are doing the right thing mbperrin Jul 2014 #144

Are you stoned? jollyreaper2112 Jul 2014 #152

This is not a war! tech3149 Jul 2014 #156

But I heard Sen RoJo (our dumb senator) say AllyCat Jul 2014 #96

nt Separation Jul 2014 #2

Oh, are we posting that RW loon's comics now? Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #3

Well, no. Separation Jul 2014 #7

No, you posted a RW toon Capt. Obvious Jul 2014 #8

Don't like it then by all means alert it. Separation Jul 2014 #10

Because Gaza has among the highest population density, it is difficult to place defense/aggressive alfredo Jul 2014 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #85

Don't confuse the majority with the radical element. alfredo Jul 2014 #92

Did you see that little Palestinian girl in the hospital on the news last night? Chemisse Jul 2014 #120

No, Israel brutalizes, steals from, and murders Palestinians with near impunity cpwm17 Jul 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #82

It was pretty mindless, which is par for the course for RW cartoons n/t Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #87

I like stuff like Tom Tomorrow and other witty LW cartoons... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #88

Disgusting and clueless post. NealK Jul 2014 #95

what do you call it when settlers build in occupied territories? Alameda Jul 2014 #138

Don't forget that it was Israel that first went on a collective punishment campaign cpwm17 Jul 2014 #5

Using many weapons provided by us ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #107

Cold, But Fair Enough, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #6

Tell me... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2014 #11

+1 Separation Jul 2014 #13

As long as any group lusts after power, wealth or resources it will continue. redqueen Jul 2014 #19

see that's the thing I don't understand LittleGirl Jul 2014 #25

Amen.... daleanime Jul 2014 #103

Can someone explain... biglib63 Jul 2014 #14

Before the rockets started, Israel imprison almost two million Palestinians cpwm17 Jul 2014 #16

You're deliberately putting that backwards. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #26

You didn't read his message. cprise Jul 2014 #30

Yes I did - I just didn't think it was honest. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #36

Oh, its honest cprise Jul 2014 #57

You certainly Cheviteau Jul 2014 #76

I wonder who you think you're impressing with that garbage. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #93

I was impressed. Chemisse Jul 2014 #121

The blockade traps over a million people inside Gaza. bravenak Jul 2014 #33

Hamas DOES have bomb shelters - buried under hospitals, schools and mosques. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #39

So bomb the civilians anyway? bravenak Jul 2014 #42

If that were true the casualties would be in the thousands. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #46

If, sniff. bravenak Jul 2014 #47

Could we see the link for Gaza having bomb shelters? Chemisse Jul 2014 #122

Hamas has tunnels and bunkers hack89 Jul 2014 #148

Nonsense! Octoberfurst Jul 2014 #102

They think they can generate sympathy by getting people killed. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #18

Some people fall on beaches when shells hit little boys. bravenak Jul 2014 #32

If that is what Hamas wants, why would Israel work with them to achieve it? sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #106

Certainly they will be getting no sympathy from you! Chemisse Jul 2014 #123

When will the Israeli government put those responsible for stealing Palestinian land... Spazito Jul 2014 #23

Reminds me of a great toon called 'Frank(?) and Earnest' years ago. IrishAyes Jul 2014 #80

Exactly, both sides need to go to the table as equals... Spazito Jul 2014 #81

For the same reason that kids kick the back of the driver's seat when their parents-- eridani Jul 2014 #55

That's it. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #62

'The rage of the powerless' Chemisse Jul 2014 #124

Still no shortage of rockets though. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #15

You're ignoring the "disproportionate" part. Maedhros Jul 2014 #20

Not all all - you're ignoring the thousands of rockets fired at Israel. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #24

Has Hamas been able to inflict anywhere near the casualties on Israel than Israel has on Palestine? Maedhros Jul 2014 #27

So you condemn Israel for successfully defending themselves from terrorist aggression. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #28

No. bravenak Jul 2014 #31

It showed what happens when Hamas chooses to fire rockets from densely populated areas. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #35

Are you saying it's okay to shoot children playing on the beach? bravenak Jul 2014 #37

Dead children Aerows Jul 2014 #38

That i would like to know. bravenak Jul 2014 #41

no fucking answer. none. frylock Jul 2014 #59

I have found the human shields argument disgusting. bravenak Jul 2014 #60

He doesn't need to justify it. It was an accident. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #64

What "war" are you speaking of? n/t countryjake Jul 2014 #67

These accidents happen a hell of a lot... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #86

And these are just the 'accidents' that we see. Chemisse Jul 2014 #126

In a chaotic war zone, it does not take great callousness or negligence to create tragedy. WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #136

You're dealing with an apologist for ethnic cleansing and war crimes. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #140

What part of Gaza is not densely populated? spinbaby Jul 2014 #44

Here is a map of Gaza: WatermelonRat Jul 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author spinbaby Jul 2014 #44

Or, escalating gang-level violence to a military assault with mass casualties. n/t cprise Jul 2014 #34

Pretty much The Green Manalishi Jul 2014 #49

...which is why there is such an effort to deny Palestine official statehood. Maedhros Jul 2014 #50

I'll bet that your 78 record collection only had one side. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2014 #69

As someone above put it so aptly, Chemisse Jul 2014 #125

How many innocent civilians has Hamas killed? How many has IDF killed? DanTex Jul 2014 #128

Dehumanization of Palestinians permits this while the western world looks away, the population Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #17

Can we expect American sanctions against Israel for its aggression against Gaza? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #21

To anyone else, that would be our response. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #72

Thank you oldandhappy Jul 2014 #22

The ultimate example I saw was when some New York tourists made a wrong turn.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2014 #29

omg. Chemisse Jul 2014 #127

Thank you Rudie malaise Jul 2014 #40

We are responsible yellowwoodII Jul 2014 #52

K&R abelenkpe Jul 2014 #53

Egypt called for a cease-fire and the Palestinians broke it. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #54

Good analogy. The Palestinians are as powerless as children eridani Jul 2014 #58

They could negotiate with Israel. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #100

The "rockets" are tin can high school science projects eridani Jul 2014 #105

So why are the Palestinians sending the rockets. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #110

They do it because their total miltary impotence enreges them n/t eridani Jul 2014 #111

They should get over their anger and focus on making their lives better. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #112

It is specific Israeli policy to prevent them from having better lives eridani Jul 2014 #113

That is projection. The Palestinians' stated goal is to get rid of Israel. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #114

Well, my stated goal is dating Robert Redford. eridani Jul 2014 #145

I agreed with you up to here, but as you say the Palestinians are disorganized... Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #158

Do you have a link showing that Israel adopted that aas a policy. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #155

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work eridani Jul 2014 #161

That is an opinion piece. It is not a declaraton of policy by the Israeli government. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #162

A policy need not be declared to be implemented eridani Jul 2014 #163

+1 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #150

+, in a sad and frustrating thread. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #74

Why did you find that post informative? Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #91

The Palestinians sent rockets into Israel. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #97

So according to you that's where it all started? Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #116

Israel is allowed -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2014 #157

If the Palestinians strengthened their organization flamingdem Jul 2014 #98

From what happened in the years prior to Hamas, it wouldn't matter who leads the Palestinians... Violet_Crumble Jul 2014 #117

it just described the dynamic very well. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #134

DO NOT equate what is happening in Israel with the Jewish people - that is all I ask. jillan Jul 2014 #63

Thank you. I think that is important for everyone to know. nt GoneFishin Jul 2014 #79

Agreed malaise Jul 2014 #89

did you mean the palestinians? barbtries Jul 2014 #101

I most wholeheartedly agree with your post. BlueMTexpat Jul 2014 #108

True. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #133

What anti-semitism? TiberiusB Jul 2014 #118

Yes Netanyahu was elected. So was Bush and Cheney for 2 terms. Re-elected AFTER the world knew they jillan Jul 2014 #164

PLUS ONE! Thank you, jillan. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #132

+100 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #151

Israel does not represent Judaism. They hide behind Judaism to excuse what they do. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #66

Thank you for the most sensible post on this thread. Bohunk68 Jul 2014 #131

Thank you! jillan Jul 2014 #165

ho-hum, just "cutting the grass"... alterfurz Jul 2014 #68

and YEARS of blockades that stop food and medical shipments. obxhead Jul 2014 #70

Actually the IAF has zero F-18's EX500rider Jul 2014 #90

wonder if it's anti semitic if one is from Israel PatrynXX Jul 2014 #71

Don't forget locks Jul 2014 #73

For Me to be Anti-Semitic, imthevicar Jul 2014 #94

bzzzt. fail. anti-semitic means bigoted against Jews. Period. duh. cali Jul 2014 #109

K&R NealK Jul 2014 #99

Turn the whole thing into a UN protectorate StoneCarver Jul 2014 #129

I guess that the recs show that this post resonates with DU. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #139

And despite what the Israelis say, it is about gas! emsimon33 Jul 2014 #143

are you saying the israelis deserve worse than the holocaust ? JI7 Jul 2014 #149

Germans slaughtered Jews,... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #153

There is an element of truth to every response to this OP. MADem Jul 2014 #154

Those with more power and money have the responsibility to be the bigger people. Some past wrongs Pisces Jul 2014 #159

K&R woo me with science Jul 2014 #160