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pnwmom

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114. Because your blood pressure drugs are not classified as preventive. They're for TREATING

Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:34 PM

Jul 2014

the high blood pressure that damages blood vessels. When women are pregnant, they also have to pay their regular copay and deductible for any treatment they need. And if they develop pre-eclampsia and suddenly need to be treated for dangerous high blood pressure, that is still subject to copay and deductible.

When writing the law, the legislators decided to cover preventive care in full, in order to save money over the long run. Contraceptive methods, vaccinations, and various health screenings (colonoscopies, for example) are classified as preventive care.

Treatment of high blood pressure, diabetes, pregnancy, or other conditions are not.

The issue isn't whether something is a drug or not. (An IUD doesn't have to involve any drug.) The issue is whether it's preventive or treatment. When they wrote the law they wanted to build in a strong incentive for people to get preventive care, and so they offer it for free.

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Why are women so outraged over a single issue? Because the 5 ungulates on the S.C. [View all] pnwmom Jul 2014 OP

, blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #1

K& fucking R Lars39 Jul 2014 #2

Pans; Gods that piss on the she. DhhD Jul 2014 #101

Perfectly stated! onecaliberal Jul 2014 #3

Are Women Outraged? Cartoonist Jul 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Jul 2014 #5

Check your link Cartoonist Jul 2014 #7

Better links. alp227 Jul 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #8

My FB friends, a diverse group, are spreading word about a march on DC on September 13th. pnwmom Jul 2014 #11

There was one but don't ask me where. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #19

Do you have any info about that march? pamela Jul 2014 #21

I just added a link to the OP. Oddly, it doesn't mention the exact September date, pnwmom Jul 2014 #22

Thanks. pamela Jul 2014 #25

Pamela, this link just got passed to me: pnwmom Jul 2014 #35

Thanks again! pamela Jul 2014 #39

Pamela, thanks for the graphics on Pinterest.... prairierose Jul 2014 #103

You're welcome! pamela Jul 2014 #106

There's a rally, pnwmom. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #32

Thanks! I'll add this to the OP. pnwmom Jul 2014 #34

I will have to save my pennies. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #36

Fund raisers like raffles are done in my town all the littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #75

Thanks for that info! n/t cui bono Jul 2014 #85

Yes women are outraged A Little Weird Jul 2014 #27

Why aren't more men outraged over the SCOTUS decisions? AdHocSolver Jul 2014 #42

And because some of them think like the DUer in post #29. pnwmom Jul 2014 #59

Isn't he charming? Squinch Jul 2014 #90

EXACTLY. The HL case just HAPPENED to be about women, but the "religious views of corporations" WinkyDink Jul 2014 #48

Get out more... ReRe Jul 2014 #28

September 13 is a horrible time for this yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #51

I bet they want to remind people about this before the November election. So the timing's excellent. pnwmom Jul 2014 #60

How heavily was this reported on the daily news in your area? the_working_poor Jul 2014 #111

Little exposure here in CA Cartoonist Jul 2014 #119

where in CA? the_working_poor Jul 2014 #120

SF bay area Cartoonist Jul 2014 #121

WHat happened to KGO?!? the_working_poor Jul 2014 #122

So what exactly is the Fourteenth Amendement violation in this case? Leontius Jul 2014 #6

Hobby Lobby's healthcare plan will cover viagara but not certain birth control alp227 Jul 2014 #10

Equal protection of the laws means that if men's health needs are fully covered pnwmom Jul 2014 #12

Excellent point, pnwmom MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #16

It would only qualify for equal protection if it treats a medical condition davidn3600 Jul 2014 #29

It PREVENTS a medical condition -- pregnancy -- that physically stresses and even endangers pnwmom Jul 2014 #31

True. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #33

I REALLY agree with you this time!! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #43

So Viagra ISN'T for a man's "sexual activity purposes"? WinkyDink Jul 2014 #49

How dare you even question The Sanctity of the Penis?! Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #62

Can you believe the crap that gets tossed around by our "allies" over this? Squinch Jul 2014 #89

Someone hasn't been reading their Cosmo... cui bono Jul 2014 #86

#8 Should be shared far and wide pfitz59 Jul 2014 #112

The law requires free contraception for women's health care don't know of any equivalent requirement Leontius Jul 2014 #63

Free PREVENTIVE care is required for both sexes. pnwmom Jul 2014 #66

Don't get me wrong on this but contraceptives are drugs Leontius Jul 2014 #108

Because your blood pressure drugs are not classified as preventive. They're for TREATING pnwmom Jul 2014 #114

It is not a single issue - it is the single issue - women are not people but corporations have more hollysmom Jul 2014 #13

That is the worst part. A corporation is more of a person, legally, than a woman is. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #115

Hate to point it out, but you defend the RC Church often BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #14

I don't think we should have 6 Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court, pnwmom Jul 2014 #17

We do agree BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #20

I agree. The 5 Roman Catholic males all let their personal beliefs pnwmom Jul 2014 #24

Um, Thomas isn't white Retrograde Jul 2014 #57

oops pnwmom Jul 2014 #58

I agree with you too... ReRe Jul 2014 #30

Yes, because that is fair BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #45

"...get God out of everything." Amen to that! Kath1 Jul 2014 #87

Excellent point. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #71

Ungulates indeed. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #15

Kick and Hell yes Recommend! sheshe2 Jul 2014 #18

It's Good to See People Catching On, After How Many Decades? mckara Jul 2014 #23

This cuts both ways lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #26

We're long past that. If we ever have another draft, they'll draft women, too. pnwmom Jul 2014 #37

You're probably right, but it raises a question: What WOULD be affected by the ERA? Jim Lane Jul 2014 #80

Arguably, the ERA would invalidate large sections of the ACA. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #102

The ERA and the ACA Jim Lane Jul 2014 #109

Agree with the last paragraph. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #113

At this time, only males need to register for draft goldent Jul 2014 #117

Well now that women can serve in combat roles, I think that ruling seems obsolete. Rex Jul 2014 #47

NOTHING TO DO with private corporations. WinkyDink Jul 2014 #50

K&R ReRe Jul 2014 #38

I am definitely going to DC on September 13. Thank you for telling us. Who else will be there? Squinch Jul 2014 #40

I have already started my money jar. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #52

I checked out travel costs yesterday. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #56

What about starting a kick starter for our DU women? littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #67

We have two months. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #68

Sorry, I was off posting another vagina/ uterus thread.(I am not kidding) sheshe2 Jul 2014 #70

I have coxxydinia. I was officially diagnosed with Sjogren's last October. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #72

I read.... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #78

Where is NL? littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #79

In the horizon. eom sheshe2 Jul 2014 #84

I'll be able to train down and back. See you there! Squinch Jul 2014 #92

That is an excellent Idea. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #93

Great! I will probably take a train down and then back the same day. Squinch Jul 2014 #88

I would be coming from Mass... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #99

New York Squinch Jul 2014 #104

Why ungulates? They're pretty much harmless eaters of vegetation, AFAIK-- Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #41

LOL. pnwmom Jul 2014 #46

You "forced" me to search wikipedia to find out what Mestelidae referred to. AdHocSolver Jul 2014 #53

Lol! This is why I love the DEMOCRATIC Underground! littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #69

Agreed! Quite unlike Free Republic. Jim Lane Jul 2014 #83

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #44

I could not put it better. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #54

Mahalo, pnwmom! Cha Jul 2014 #55

Really great thread. Come march. Will you try? littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #73

.. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #74

The SCOTUS decisions are part of a scheme to transfer all political power to the 1 percent. AdHocSolver Jul 2014 #61

I think the September 13th will draw attention to the need to elect progressives pnwmom Jul 2014 #65

I'd rec for the use of the word ungulates , alone. octoberlib Jul 2014 #64

... littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #76

k&r... spanone Jul 2014 #77

If men got pregnant, abortion clinics would be more available than ATM's and birth randys1 Jul 2014 #81

I'm really happy to see this. I was a young teen liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #82

Wow. And in 1981. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #116

I know! Times were changing liberalhistorian Jul 2014 #118

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2014 #91

The free market can solve this perdita9 Jul 2014 #94

How? 90% of businesses are closely held and could decide to follow suit if they chose. pnwmom Jul 2014 #96

RW "good 'ol boys" FEAR women, will do anything to deprive them of power & repress them. K&R!! hue Jul 2014 #95

The petition at the tumblr you linked to is closed. snot Jul 2014 #97

.... hopemountain Jul 2014 #98

Great OP and thread. I hope this movement gains traction. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author demigoddess Jul 2014 #105

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2014 #107

So, you're suggesting that these ungulates stop wasting time PatrickforO Jul 2014 #110