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proverbialwisdom

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67. Dr Arpad Pusztai endorses GMWATCH.org so I follow & trust their vetting by virtue of his life story.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/11801-pusztai-to-receive-stuttgart-peace-prize

Dr Pusztai on the 10th anniversary of GM safety scandal

The following is an email - of 10 August 2008 from Dr Pusztai to Claire Robinson and Jonathan Matthews of GMWatch, in which Dr Pusztai comments on the 10th anniversary of the television interview.

Dear Claire and Jonathan,

I thought that I should write to you on the 10th anniversary of my 150 seconds of TV "fame" and tell you what I think now. It is very appropriate to write to you because you have provided the most comprehensive service to inform people about the shenanigans of the GM biotechnology industry and its advocates.

On this anniversary I have to admit that, unfortunately, not much has changed since 1998. In one of the few sentences I said in my broadcast ten years ago, I asked for a credible GM testing protocol to be established that would be acceptable to the majority of scientists and to people in general. 10 years on we still haven't got one. Instead, in Europe we have an unelected EFSA GMO Panel with no clear responsibility to European consumers, which invariably underwrites the safety of whatever product the GM biotech industry is pushing onto us.

All of us asked for independent, transparent and inclusive research into the safety of GM plants, and particularly those used in foods. There is not much sign of this either. There are still "many opinions but very few data"; less than three dozen peer-reviewed scientific papers have been published describing the results of work relating to GM safety that could actually be regarded as being of an academic standard; and the majority of even these is from industry-supported labs. Instead we have the likes of Tony Trewavas and others writing unsupported claims for the safety of GM food and defaming people like Rachel Carson who can no longer defend herself; not that she needs to be defended from such nonentities.

In normal times one would not pay much attention to such people desperately trying to be seen as the advocates of true science, but these are not normal times. The mostly engineered (GM engineered) food crisis gives the GM biotech industry and its warriors an opportunity to come to the fore with claims that GM is the only way to save a hungry world; a claim not much supported by responsible bodies, such as the IAASTD. The advocates of GM also now think that they have found a chink in the armory of people's resolve that they can exploit by telling us that we would not be able to feed our animals without GM feedstuffs. In this way, they hope to bring in GM by the backdoor. Please remember that whatever our animals eat, we shall also get back indirectly. Rather ominously, there has been no work whatever to show the safety of the meat of GM-fed animals.

We must not underestimate the financial and political clout of the GM biotechnology industry. Most of our politicians are committed to the successful introduction of GM foods. We must therefore use all means at our disposal to show people the shallowness of these claims by the industry and the lack of credible science behind them, and then trust to people's good sense, just as in 1998, to see through the falseness of the claims for the safety of untested GM foods.

Let's hope that on the 20th anniversary I shall not have to write another warning letter about the dangers of untested GM foods!

Best wishes to all
Arpad Pusztai

http://www.gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/11801-pusztai-to-receive-stuttgart-peace-prize

Pusztai to receive 2009 Stuttgart Peace Prize

We've just heard that Dr Arpad Pusztai and Dr Susan Bardocz will be presented with this year's Stuttgart Peace Prize. The award is for their tireless advocacy for independent risk research. Both have made an essential contribution to a broader understanding of the dangers of genetic manipulation. The award also honours their courage and scientific integrity as well as their undaunted insistence on the public's right to know.

The award will take place on 18 December with a Film and Book launch at 4 pm and a Peace Gala at 7:30 pm, at the Theaterhaus Stuttgart.

More details (in German) here:
http://www.gentechnikfreies-europa.eu/


Below is a profile of Dr Pusztai and how he changed the GM debate:
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Arpad_Pusztai

Everyone should be familiar with this information.
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She probably did as much research as she did with her IWR vote. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #2
She can learn, evolve .... FarPoint Jul 2014 #6
Uh, huh... elzenmahn Jul 2014 #8
Just wait until his next term. Then you're going to see liberalism! Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #23
He's only been President 6 and a half years!!!! morningfog Jul 2014 #60
She already has learned and evolved arikara Jul 2014 #9
Ahem... ReRe Jul 2014 #11
I don't think so. 840high Jul 2014 #24
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If she's the nominee in 2016, what will you do? George II Jul 2014 #40
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It was an "IF" question, not a "WHEN" question. George II Jul 2014 #52
IF she is the nominee.... NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #58
. George II Jul 2014 #64
LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #123
Go and have waffles on voting day. Then go home. Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #91
H. Clinton has made it clear that she is the corporate choice for the Democratic nomination. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #3
I can live a much better life with Hilary FarPoint Jul 2014 #49
You are lucky. But that kind of thinking will continue to see the lower classes decline. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #62
I have to say, I'm a bit confused by Ms. Paul's statement customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #4
anti-GMO'ers are the left's climate change deniers. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #15
That's the claim the GMO corporate pimps like to denigrate us with Crowquette Jul 2014 #27
It's a fact, though wyldwolf Jul 2014 #28
Put your faith in Monsanto, Sygenta and their ilk - they control the "science" you swallow Crowquette Jul 2014 #38
Show me proof they control WHO.. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #41
why would anyone give your opinion on this any weight when you don't even know the cali Jul 2014 #118
"Who gives a shit... that doesn't matter... you don't need people's opinion on a fact" wyldwolf Jul 2014 #119
EXCITING NEW PRESS RELEASE - "Republication of the Séralini study: Science speaks for itself" proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #54
It was retracted last year because it was fatally flawed wyldwolf Jul 2014 #57
Dr Arpad Pusztai endorses GMWATCH.org so I follow & trust their vetting by virtue of his life story. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #67
Climate change deniers cling to a very small amount ... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #69
No parallel, no MSM support anywhere. Imagine witnessing this whirlwind as a scientist or living it. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #74
There's no MSM parallel because it isn't hot button issue wyldwolf Jul 2014 #77
monsanto science is anti science wisechoice Jul 2014 #93
WHO, AMA, The Royal Academy of Medicine, European Commission, etc. are not working Monsanto wyldwolf Jul 2014 #95
Platitudes don't cut it though they sell stuff. Nuanced, but demonstrably and irrefutably wrong x5. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #97
but apparently conspiracy theories based on non-science do cut it here. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #98
Bookmarking for that letter BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #105
It's ALREADY been proven that gmo's are safe. alp227 Jul 2014 #108
and here is another wyldwolf Jul 2014 #114
No, Gung Ho GMOers are the left's Climate Change Deniers.. if you want to bring in Climate Change. Cha Jul 2014 #80
so let me get this straight - make sure I'm understanding you wyldwolf Jul 2014 #82
So? Science says GMO makes frankenfood and is full of Scientific Poison not Good for the Environment Cha Jul 2014 #83
yes, the few "scientists" who use faulty research DO say that wyldwolf Jul 2014 #84
that's because redruddyred Jul 2014 #26
And I favor full labeling customerserviceguy Jul 2014 #116
the activists that claim all the resistance to such is because monsanto has something to hide. redruddyred Jul 2014 #117
'more careful application'.... heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #50
My neighbor is too lazy to pull weeds and he sprays that crap. nilesobek Jul 2014 #61
If money matters, anyone can be a corporate shill and still tell you otherwise. Always watch roguevalley Jul 2014 #5
HRC: Blue Dog, Corporate ConservaDem, War Hawk, Triangulation/Bi-partisanship, DLC/Third Way, finger blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #7
ouch!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #56
I see a huge fight in the making - the Corporatist Dems - whose lives have truedelphi Jul 2014 #10
Spot on. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #51
stop the truth stuff!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #59
Democrats - the pro-science party? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #12
I see your corporate meme, and raise you one from human beings, not corporate citizens Crowquette Jul 2014 #30
Similar to how the Fox News crowd shuts down climate change arguments wyldwolf Jul 2014 #33
That's not true globally. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #43
It's absolutely true globally wyldwolf Jul 2014 #46
NEW: Study suggests potential association between "soy formula" and seizures in children with autism proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #75
You just made a big leap wyldwolf Jul 2014 #79
Embedded link I included states 90% of US soy is GMO but, of course, actual verification needed. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #92
"actual verification needed" if those who believed in such woo-hoo would actually live by that. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #96
The problem isn't the GMOs, it's the gradual monopolizing of the food supply. arcane1 Jul 2014 #31
That's a much more sensible approach wyldwolf Jul 2014 #36
Oh, it's both. Where are the long term animal feeding studies demonstrating safety? proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #45
They probably were done some or even many but when the test data dosn't come out like they wanted nolabels Jul 2014 #70
That's exactly what it should be about. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #72
That'd be my assessment, also. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #89
Reading your post wants to have me truedelphi Jul 2014 #99
do you have any proof WHO, AAAS, AMA, National Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Medicine.... wyldwolf Jul 2014 #102
Again, the taint of corporate monies can be smelled truedelphi Jul 2014 #103
Oh, "the taint of corporate monies can be smelled." (snicker) wyldwolf Jul 2014 #104
If USA Corproate-backed science is all that science-ey, then truedelphi Jul 2014 #106
You have proof a us corp. is backing world science, right? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #107
Well, for starters, answer me this: truedelphi Jul 2014 #111
so you avoid the question and instead give more conspiracy speculation and anecdotes. wyldwolf Jul 2014 #113
at this point, what else is there than common sense when people hopemountain Jul 2014 #120
" at this point, what else is there than common sense?" Science wyldwolf Jul 2014 #121
really? are you so naive? hopemountain Jul 2014 #122
Prove it. And then answer - are you a climate change denier, too? wyldwolf Jul 2014 #124
Nice graphic Segami. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #13
HRC? A GMO apologist?? Color me shocked!! RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #14
Figures ReRe Jul 2014 #16
Thanks, Hillary. bvar22 Jul 2014 #17
Silly rabbit! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #21
If anyone tells you GMOs are drought resistant or higher yield BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #18
Thanks for speaking truth. "drought resistance" is a standard lie of GMO propaganda pimps !!! Crowquette Jul 2014 #100
Good. Nothing wrong with GM foods (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #19
with this post and the responses heaven05 Jul 2014 #20
Yep, let's all hope Nader runs again skepticscott Jul 2014 #25
yeah, i hear you heaven05 Jul 2014 #55
THIS ^^^^^^^^^EPIPHANY MrMickeysMom Jul 2014 #81
And yet... proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #22
big pharma is extremely sketch redruddyred Jul 2014 #29
Food can't do everything, obviously, and many drugs are life saving. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #35
unfortunately, what with hmos and such, there have been a number of bad incentives in medicine redruddyred Jul 2014 #65
walked by a drug store this morning and looking in the front door the first thing you see is Pepsi KurtNYC Jul 2014 #32
The Bees and I Cartoonist Jul 2014 #34
There are usually a lot of other races going on at the same time. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #44
My Blue Heaven Cartoonist Jul 2014 #68
Ah, nice, I'm in the opposite. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #71
I used to live in a red zone Cartoonist Jul 2014 #76
No doubt, Hillary is so impressed with GMO foods, and their benefits, she backs lableling them. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #37
One possible quibble - Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #42
Started with Negroponte from what I've read. (nt) proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #47
There is NO SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS on GMO safety Crowquette Jul 2014 #53
Do these scientists have any credibility? alp227 Jul 2014 #109
Yes, indeed. Major credibility. Crowquette Jul 2014 #110
No they don't. Have they ever done research in the relevant field? alp227 Jul 2014 #112
The logic I use to determine if the GMOs are bad for me: nilesobek Jul 2014 #63
This the same logic I use malokvale77 Jul 2014 #73
Overall, science usually wins over hysteria and flat earth belief. nilesobek Jul 2014 #101
Of course she does. If she is the nominee, we are toast. nt silvershadow Jul 2014 #66
When I saw the article a few days back about Warren campaigning for Grimes, I wondered winter is coming Jul 2014 #78
I know.. EW was doing something Productive! However, "GMO.. No One is Perfect Not Even Elizabeth Cha Jul 2014 #85
That's not good. n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #86
F*****g disgustin' Armstead Jul 2014 #88
Hell, she and Bill have been in bed with Monsanto for years Armstead Jul 2014 #87
Oh well. GMOs are at the bottom of shit I care about. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #90
Of course she did Faux pas Jul 2014 #94
GMO OMG Trailer from Omaha Steve.. Good.. Coming September 13th.. Cha Jul 2014 #115
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