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monmouth3

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20. It was the mother she was having the sexual conversations with, right?????

Reply to redqueen (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:39 AM

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16 Year Old Girl Charged As Adult For Strangling her 43-Year-Old Boyfriend To Death During Sex Act [View all] apples and oranges Jul 2014 OP

Accidents happen during this type of sex LittleBlue Jul 2014 #1

I take it that by "this type of sex" you mean "this type of statutory rape". nt redqueen Jul 2014 #22

Doesn't matter in this case LittleBlue Jul 2014 #35

Wow. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #39

Hyperbole ahoy! LittleBlue Jul 2014 #47

please elaborate as to how rape is a nonviolent crime? unblock Jul 2014 #85

This should help you understand the basic concept LittleBlue Jul 2014 #88

so, a man does something physical to someone who didn't give legal consent. that's not violence? unblock Jul 2014 #91

Again, we will examine the meaning of the word "violence" LittleBlue Jul 2014 #93

so what about rape by drugging? rape on the unconscious? unblock Jul 2014 #97

Drugging someone is assault, duh LittleBlue Jul 2014 #114

You're copying and pasting select dictionary definitions? Zenlitened Jul 2014 #101

Actually, the person misusing words is frequently incorrect. Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #106

I'm using facts to combat an illogical attack on reason. LittleBlue Jul 2014 #115

Cherry-picked dictionary definitions... Zenlitened Jul 2014 #117

Go argue it in court LittleBlue Jul 2014 #118

You don't seem to have a good grasp of the term... Zenlitened Jul 2014 #121

Consent is when you give permission for yourself. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #107

I could be wrong... daleanime Jul 2014 #82

I pointed out that it was rape and not sex. redqueen Jul 2014 #83

IMO it's just as creepy for a 40 year old to be with an 18 year old, but should that be rape? Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #89

"Calling this a consensual sex act is accurate" redqueen Jul 2014 #94

My post contained a logical argument, and you own't be able to refute it. Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #95

No, your post contained an astonishing absurdity... Zenlitened Jul 2014 #100

Yes, legally this would have to be considered rape here in the USA, but not in many developed places Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #103

Your personal notions of ethics in other cultures... Zenlitened Jul 2014 #109

It's obvious to everyone you are just evadingmy point. Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #116

Your reply makes it clear... Zenlitened Jul 2014 #120

For all intents and purposes, the age of consent in Japan is 18 Art_from_Ark Jul 2014 #124

people join DU for lots of reasons CreekDog Jul 2014 #72

Yes, maybe they should dig him up and prosecute him LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #67

Yes, youre right. Once rapists are dead we should totally whitewash their crimes. redqueen Jul 2014 #70

So what is your remedy? LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #111

Is it statutory rape? Nevernose Jul 2014 #123

You are not a fan? Color me surprised. MattBaggins Jul 2014 #29

Dafuq AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #55

This has happened before. redqueen Jul 2014 #2

Exactly right. Blaming the female is SOP for American Media. riqster Jul 2014 #87

Pedophilia, from Wikipedia: Threedifferentones Jul 2014 #98

Putting a 16 year old in control of your life is stupid Marrah_G Jul 2014 #3

It is DISGUSTING to prosecute this girl. Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #4

Didn't she say it was consensual? nt Logical Jul 2014 #6

she can not give consent as she is not of majority age. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #7

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #9

To compare a 16-year-old girl to a woman for the purposes of being an apologist for statutory rape redqueen Jul 2014 #10

Never fear, redqueen. we are Women and we are mighty. hear us Roar. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #13

I'm sickened. redqueen Jul 2014 #19

I understand - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #24

Many states 16 is the age of consent. So this is not a 10 year old girl. The guy.... Logical Jul 2014 #15

The guy was 43 and she is 16. But you're convinced there was no coercion, no taking advantage, redqueen Jul 2014 #17

Do you know anything about their history...... Logical Jul 2014 #23

The middle aged idiot was a RAPIST. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #26

again your derp is showing. more information needed. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #28

right there in the article mercuryblues Jul 2014 #36

you mean when she was 14 or 15? Seriuosly? bettyellen Jul 2014 #52

She was autistic and had schizophrenia and was under the age of consent Cal Carpenter Jul 2014 #92

Not in that state. MineralMan Jul 2014 #105

good. I should. and it is no problem Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Jul 2014 #16

so, you are fine with any under age women being legally raped then, thanks! bettyellen Jul 2014 #18

Don't expect a reply...until at least July 21st. cyberswede Jul 2014 #37

Or (hopefully) ever. Zenlitened Jul 2014 #78

Statutory rape is still rape Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #8

Juror number 4 checking in. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #41

I alerted the other post. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #49

thanks- so sad to see people here think raping an autistic minor is "open to discussion" as to bettyellen Jul 2014 #53

Wow, and even that one pivoted on a single vote. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #54

"there is nothing I see outside TOS in the post." redqueen Jul 2014 #62

This, exactly: Zenlitened Jul 2014 #96

Good, at least that alert pulled enough sanity from the jury pool n/t kcr Jul 2014 #74

Would she also have been a girl in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, or Michigan? Orrex Jul 2014 #25

Yes because what really matters is laws, not ethics. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #31

She was a mentally challenged child Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #34

Aaagh! I think I didn't read carefully enough. Orrex Jul 2014 #38

No problem. I agree that the age of consent laws are confusing in their complexity Michigander_Life Jul 2014 #42

Yeah--I edited my post, too. Orrex Jul 2014 #44

the age of consent is 16 in MA Marrah_G Jul 2014 #48

There are mitigating factors of mental capacity here that I didn't realize at first Orrex Jul 2014 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author SpartanDem Jul 2014 #84

I've rarely seen so much Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #5

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #11

Yes, somehow a woman must also be blamed. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #14

It was the mother she was having the sexual conversations with, right????? monmouth3 Jul 2014 #20

Jury. Agschmid Jul 2014 #79

yes, they NEED to because of sleeze bags like this 43 year old guy. Wow! Do you want Mom to stuff bettyellen Jul 2014 #21

I'm talking about parenting here. The guy at this point is irrelevant, he's dead. monmouth3 Jul 2014 #27

The only good man is a --- you may extrapolate from there. You insult women like this Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #30

Go away. Tired of you..n/t monmouth3 Jul 2014 #33

in your face. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #45

He's not irrelevant, he exploited and raped a youth with mental health issues. bettyellen Jul 2014 #32

"Why we would try and fault the mom when there's a dead piece of shit in the middle of this" redqueen Jul 2014 #43

say it louder: DEAD PIECE OF SHIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. thank you bettyellen. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #46

Ya know there will be a lawyer claiming she suggested the sex games. bettyellen Jul 2014 #50

I am with redqueen. ethics and morals vs. legal. sickening. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #56

This story is full of wtf, Girl is 16 and having consensual sex with an adult dilby Jul 2014 #40

I think the mother should also be charged. Captain Stern Jul 2014 #71

Yeah mother is definetly responsible. dilby Jul 2014 #75

Regardless of whether or not the guy knew she was 16, the mother DID know she was 16. Captain Stern Jul 2014 #86

Are we sure the mother knew beforehand? I'm not clear on that. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #108

I'm not clear on that either. Captain Stern Jul 2014 #122

What makes it more fucked up is that the article says she is autistic and schizophrenic Marrah_G Jul 2014 #51

I confess that I missed that part at first. Orrex Jul 2014 #60

"Boyfriend"? Really? An appropriate word for a 40-something statutory rapist? I think not (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #57

If a 16 yr old boy strangled a mother of 43 Bonobo Jul 2014 #59

43 is A LOT of kids. LexVegas Jul 2014 #63

Ha! nt ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #110

That boy would need better counsel. Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #69

Why do certain men on DU insist on derailing clear cut cases about the victimization of women redqueen Jul 2014 #73

you read the story and the first thing you think is "feminists" CreekDog Jul 2014 #77

If she does have a mental illness, Jenoch Jul 2014 #61

She was being raped. She was not in control of the situation. LexVegas Jul 2014 #64

She had an electric cord around his neck and he died. Jenoch Jul 2014 #80

Seems like two separate issues. Captain Stern Jul 2014 #65

First, they need to charge the man with statutory rape bluestateguy Jul 2014 #66

It seems sarisataka Jul 2014 #81

This thread is surreal. n/t ieoeja Jul 2014 #99

Possibly the poster wishes to dig him up and hang him. former9thward Jul 2014 #102

That's not an excuse bluestateguy Jul 2014 #119

Boyfriend?? Rapist. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #68

Did the guy know she was 16? dilby Jul 2014 #76

a 16 year old girl with autism & schizophrenia? Cal Carpenter Jul 2014 #90

One of the best candidates I have seen for jury nullification. stevenleser Jul 2014 #104

I agree. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #112

WTF! IronLionZion Jul 2014 #113