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redqueen

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14. No no no,

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:32 PM

Apr 2012

clearly she chose her choice and that's feminist so you need to stop oppressing her and instead advocate for legalized prostitution. That way she can exchange sex for food and not have to worry about being arrested for it. See? Problem solved.

Forget about those silly leftist ideas about not forcing people into situations where they'd make such choices. That's only for sweatshop laborers. When the sex trade is the issue we're libertarian, all the way.

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Woman offers sex for two double cheeseburgers, deputies say [View all] Tony_FLADEM Apr 2012 OP

Hunter Thompson predicted this..... RagAss Apr 2012 #1

Mentally ill, no doubt. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #2

Actually, my first guess would probably be "drunk." TheWraith Apr 2012 #5

I'm going to go with "hungry." sudopod Apr 2012 #57

Maybe just very hungry. emilyg Apr 2012 #29

Sad trof Apr 2012 #37

Very sad Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #48

Yes indeed, but what's wrong with saying, $250.00 and I get to eat first? nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #47

what's wrong?!? Well for starters that's about $200 too high of a price... OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #75

If it were me, I'd ask for $250,000. Just sayin'. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #129

What exactly are you "sayin'" maundy thursday Apr 2012 #210

and it matters to you why? Javaman Apr 2012 #226

No. I think it's very unlikely that this is the result of just being very hungry. JVS Apr 2012 #52

Unlikely. Certainly she was hungry but she was also somehow impaired cali Apr 2012 #252

We prefer "empowered sex worker". PassingFair Apr 2012 #94

Nope. I put her down as starving. vaberella Apr 2012 #153

Probably. Starving to the point at which her brain isn't functioning properly nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #194

Apparently she's not in the sex work biz for the fame and glory MrScorpio Apr 2012 #3

I agree Mr. S. XanaDUer Apr 2012 #6

Correct. mmonk Apr 2012 #30

entrapment - invited the woman into his car knowing what he would get nt msongs Apr 2012 #4

No. Entrapment is only if a law enforcement officer entices you to commit a crime. TheWraith Apr 2012 #27

To expand JonLP24 Apr 2012 #115

Hopefully she was able to eat the burgers before being arrested. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #7

The article says it is unknown if she got to eat them siligut Apr 2012 #19

He didn't tell her he had a whopper... ? n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #8

DUzy! Even my wife smiled... PCIntern Apr 2012 #67

migth of been a decent human if he just bought her a couple hamburgers cause she was hungry...... seabeyond Apr 2012 #9

But then he wouldn't have ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #35

We've heard plenty of similar stories, about teen girls, in my country... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #10

Good thing they never heard about all the ones giving sex away for free... n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #13

They are good burgers. Why not get fries and a shake though? Meth is my guess. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #11

Sad however you look at it davidthegnome Apr 2012 #12

No no no, redqueen Apr 2012 #14

Or she's a meth head who finally got hungry... snooper2 Apr 2012 #22

Wow. redqueen Apr 2012 #26

Ugh what? I related a true story that happened last Thursday Afternoon snooper2 Apr 2012 #32

The WOW might be because zappaman Apr 2012 #93

I was busy playing one-pocket. snooper2 Apr 2012 #128

I bet you were. Son of Gob Apr 2012 #139

I hear you. sudopod Apr 2012 #135

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Let's focus on the US... sudopod Apr 2012 #155

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Oh good, more misplaced sarcasm and self-built strawmen to show off your self-righteousness. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #24

Everyone was having a perfectly good time making whopper jokes. sudopod Apr 2012 #136

I believe you're conflating LanternWaste Apr 2012 #182

what LanternWaste said.... Scout Apr 2012 #212

What do preemptive attacks on non-existing points of view have to do with feminism? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #223

I agree LanternWaste and Scout said. sudopod Apr 2012 #265

I still think they should go after the johns. moriah Apr 2012 #73

That IS strange, because it would not solve any problem. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #90

What you're describing redqueen Apr 2012 #123

I think both or none is the only fair solution, and I have a strong preference for none. stevenleser Apr 2012 #247

My only question is what if she refused to go? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #17

It would have been less costly to taxpayers to help her Turbineguy Apr 2012 #23

Reminds me of Les Miserables! sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #43

Rounding up stray dogs would be more useful Major Nikon Apr 2012 #148

Prostitution should be legalized. Beacool Apr 2012 #213

There's a "pink slime" joke in here somewhere jberryhill Apr 2012 #15

This has what the War on Poverty has devolved to. bluedigger Apr 2012 #16

Who says she was poor? My guess is meth addict. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #18

Yeah, a rich meth addict. redqueen Apr 2012 #20

Are they meth addicts because they are poor or poor because they are meth addicts. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #21

Yeah, redqueen Apr 2012 #25

I'm just waiting for the usual brigade to show up who say things like "consenting adults" and Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #28

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Dworkin-MacKinnon Feminist Paradise?! KamaAina Apr 2012 #42

The feminist paradise, where prostitution is concerned redqueen Apr 2012 #45

I'm sure prostitutes there enjoy not having access to police and health clinics for protection... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #56

You obviously know nothing redqueen Apr 2012 #58

I know that it is backward. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #62

+1 LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #65

It involves sex! And men like it! That's what makes it evil, don't ya see?! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #92

I know, I know... LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #95

"My" workers? LOL DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #101

Ouch ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #137

Did I say France was a Nordic country? redqueen Apr 2012 #141

Gee, I thought you would be interested in the dealings with prostitution elsewhere... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #159

You really should consider trying to redqueen Apr 2012 #188

If you don't read my posts, then don't bother replying. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #205

LOL redqueen Apr 2012 #208

So now "Not my opinion" = "Misinformation"? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #219

Youre entitled to your opinion, not your own facts. redqueen Apr 2012 #225

You even admitted yourself you didn't even read my posts before replying. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #230

+100 n/t zappaman Apr 2012 #233

I said I didnt read ALL of it. redqueen Apr 2012 #237

Oh, so you are basing your Pavlovian reactions on HALF the information you would need? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #240

She doesn't read your posts because that part..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #231

I appreciate the "book(s)" you are writing on this. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #209

Thank you. I think it's important to bring nuance to the often black-and-white discussions. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #229

I also know nothing about it. Jim Lane Apr 2012 #110

Try here redqueen Apr 2012 #189

Thanks, interesting link, but it doesn't go into much detail. Jim Lane Apr 2012 #217

Its been in practice for years. redqueen Apr 2012 #228

I don't think France has adopted such a stance yet muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #276

A resolution, yes... redqueen Apr 2012 #277

Exactly. Its hard to imagine that kind of thing (criminalizing only one side) would hold up here stevenleser Apr 2012 #248

Post 239 Downthread LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #274

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I don't think it is, either KamaAina Apr 2012 #53

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"Preemptive", that's the word I was looking for! Thanks! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #88

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I consider that a threat, douche.` DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #96

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What color is your car? Pearl white? n/t zappaman Apr 2012 #99

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Why do you have a car? zappaman Apr 2012 #117

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Wonderful, isn't it? LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #64

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I was on my way back to delete that post LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #76

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I think that woman's life was in dire need of an intervention and the police have provided one. JVS Apr 2012 #69

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... redqueen Apr 2012 #41

It should be legal. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #44

More often than not, one adult is under duress to consent. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #46

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Don't we often argue that there is an economic military draft in this country? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #59

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I would think the solution is to make the military unnecessary or less necessary. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #74

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Odd how your answer seems to be the answer the patriarchy loves. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #80

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Easy to find. Just ask who loves to think some women just "gotta have it" Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #83

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Given his current track record anything is possible. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #105

I've seen girls in brothels who'd rather do that than work at McD's. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #103

The great majority of strippers and prostitutes come from a history of abuse. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #106

So that renders them incapable of making any decision for themselves for the rest of their lives? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #111

Until they are offered any type of therapy? Yes. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #161

Wow. I'm glad we don't live under your dictatorship! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #166

I know many men are against these women getting therapy. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #169

I'm against women being FORCED to do things they don't want to do. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #172

Damaged women feed the industry. Sorry that bothers you. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #173

Lots of women make their own well-informed choices. Sorry that doesn't serve your agenda. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #175

I'm sorry the realization that abused women feed the image has bothered you so much. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #184

I'm sorry that you don't bother about womens' freedoms at all, just your own superiority. nt DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #198

Freedom to pleasure men. Works out well for you. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #258

Freedom to do with her own body what she damn well pleases. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #263

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They are already criminalized LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #114

My older relatives told me that during the depression there were brothels in our town (pop. 25K). HiPointDem Apr 2012 #149

But every job has an economic incentive. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #158

Dunno about men, but it's my opinion that the majority of women working as prostitutes would HiPointDem Apr 2012 #176

But you never think certain kind of women *want* to think most prostitutes are victims? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #178

I'm talking about pure physiology. After awhile, it hurts, no matter how much lube you use. And HiPointDem Apr 2012 #179

They may gag at some men, but like others. Not everything has to be black-and-white. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #180

"Women should, blah blah". Most prostitutes don't set their own rules and times. Most didn't HiPointDem Apr 2012 #181

20 blow jobs a night with strangers..... seabeyond Apr 2012 #187

The 'moron' from the documentary with the college degree, obviously. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #236

this is why i dont even answer your posts. 20 bjs a night, really, she just likes sex seabeyond Apr 2012 #253

You called her a moron and now you're back-peddling from it. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #259

You called her... you would be wrong. and that is only the beginning of your wrong. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #261

I thought you weren't going to bother with me? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #262

Again, you're confusing opinions and assumptions with facts and data. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #201

two hamburgers *and $40* LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #97

For that she can buy 2 really good hamburgers. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #107

For that PLUS two cheeseburgers LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #127

Would much rather just involuntary commitment for evaluation and treatment, but that is nearly Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #165

Wow, how anti-choice of you. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #167

Sorry I want treatment of people instead of jail. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #168

False dichotomy. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #170

Enjoy legs and eggs today. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #171

Thanks, and have a nice day! And don't you forget to lecture and belittle an adult woman today! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #174

Once again, I'm sorry the realization that abused women feed the industry has bothered you so much. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #185

Again, I'm glad you're not the dictator who gets to decide over other womens' capability... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #199

It's amazing about how your of women's rights and pleasuring men seem to intermingle. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #257

Why don't you read my post #229 instead of making wild accusations? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #260

and your evidence that she is mentally ill would be...? LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #190

I think she may be a meth addict. Admittedly, just an assumption at this point. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #196

Possible LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #256

Which one? If it is legal, it becomes a business and like any other business. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #55

Depends on what "this woman" is. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #60

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Sure. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #82

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The exact opposite. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #108

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Absofreakinlutely. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #163

I have no idea what her problems are but I think you are wrong. She asked for food, that says sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #124

Meth addicts tend to have a strange sense of exhange rates. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #164

It should be legal. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #54

Waiting for you to post something not from the right wing playbook Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #63

Yes being against prostituion is so RW. ROFL. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #72

Denying women the right to work.. Upton Apr 2012 #91

ROFL. You've obviously never worked counseling any of these girls. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #104

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In my mind I was thinking of women 17-24. Not exactly girls, but I tend to call 18 year old men Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #186

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I don't think the "usual brigade" advocates streetwalking.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #134

Because meth addicts just enjoy trading sex for fast food, right? bluedigger Apr 2012 #31

Meth addicts exchange rates tend to be a little off. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #34

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You're a riot. :/ nt sudopod Apr 2012 #131

Randy Bobandy! JVS Apr 2012 #36

LOL! redqueen Apr 2012 #39

I thought he went by Smokey when he was whoring for cheeseburgers.... TheMightyFavog Apr 2012 #130

"I need a storebought cheeseburger Mr. Lahey" Erose999 Apr 2012 #191

she would have held out for fries and a drink too bart95 Apr 2012 #40

Hope she got extra pickles KamaAina Apr 2012 #49

McDOnald's to offer "Round the World" Value Meal....nt Evasporque Apr 2012 #183

FLORIDA!!! slampoet Apr 2012 #61

There's a LOLCAT Joke in here somewhere AnnieBW Apr 2012 #84

All joking aside This poor woman is probably starved. 2 double cheeseburgers off the dollar menu Justice wanted Apr 2012 #85

2 cheeseburgers *and $40* LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #98

still $40 bucks. That can buy a lot of dollar menu items, Justice wanted Apr 2012 #100

That is so sad. Cleita Apr 2012 #102

Mugshot adds no clue flvegan Apr 2012 #109

Meth users seem to lose their teeth. Could that be why she's grinning Cleita Apr 2012 #118

No idea. flvegan Apr 2012 #120

Well, I have one living up the hill from me. Cleita Apr 2012 #125

Glad police are spending time getting criminals like this off the street. Puregonzo1188 Apr 2012 #122

It's very sad Catherine Vincent Apr 2012 #126

Sorry, Catherine, I mean to reply to the OP. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #132

This thread is just chock full of everything that is wrong with this country. sudopod Apr 2012 #133

Liberals suddenly turn libertarian redqueen Apr 2012 #138

It's like you said above: we should be striving for a society sudopod Apr 2012 #142

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What, you're Dr. House now? nt sudopod Apr 2012 #157

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I don't find it amusing at all LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #140

Anti-sex-buying does not mean anti-sex. redqueen Apr 2012 #143

ok, I'll bite LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #145

Sex that's not the expression of a commodity relationship. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #150

What are you sudopod Apr 2012 #156

I do not see any of you LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #192

Seems like it would be obvious. redqueen Apr 2012 #193

That darn Patriarchy! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #238

"Hey Hey, Ho Ho, This Penis Party's Got To Go!" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #273

Also, I guess you somehow managed to miss this, redqueen Apr 2012 #144

the Nordic prostitutes think otherwise LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #146

Once again, my concern is for the exploited, abused, addicted, trafficked women and children. redqueen Apr 2012 #195

States like Nevada, where the the trafficking rate in legal brothels is zero? LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #200

Youre seriously throwing out the fact that traffickers dont operate out of legal brothels redqueen Apr 2012 #203

Yes, it IS meaningful. ZERO trafficking IS MEANINGFUL. LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #207

Oh my God. You are aware that there are other places where traffickers would operate, redqueen Apr 2012 #211

Yes, there are other places they operate LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #218

So what if its illegal? It still gets worse where prostitution is sanctioned. redqueen Apr 2012 #221

Worse like in Germany, where trafficking went down? LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #234

She obviously looks down on sex workers. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #246

It's mostly f'n boring, truth be told LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #254

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I have a file full of those LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #250

So, how are those sex workers going to survive when no man dares to pay them anymore? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #162

Spoken like a defender of sweatshops. redqueen Apr 2012 #197

So you don't have an answer to the robbing of the livelihood of women who chose to be prostitutes? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #204

Ive answered t many times redqueen Apr 2012 #206

No, you didn't, you just used a personal attack where you could've used arguments. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #220

What personal attack? redqueen Apr 2012 #224

You advocate taking away their livelihood because you don't agree with their choice. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #232

Ooh! Ooh! I have some! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #239

All those media outlets must be under the control of The Patriarchy! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #241

Good stuff, but I have to say the 'target John's only' approach is an obvious failure... stevenleser Apr 2012 #278

Sweden, apparently LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #279

Assimilate, or die. LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #202

Only the.most dedicated capitalist would conflate redqueen Apr 2012 #216

My, we are having fun with the talking points today! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #227

What on earth gives you the idea.that I dont know that underground prostitutes die? redqueen Apr 2012 #235

Aaawww, you must feel very bummed, having to waste all your precious time on facts and reality. nt DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #242

Your own words in the post above gave me that idea LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #244

LOL redqueen Apr 2012 #249

Thank you for the links zappaman Apr 2012 #251

You're most welcome! LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #255

I haven't been here very long, but I have seen enough of the same names Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #147

A joke is just a joke. Lighten up. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #160

"A joke is just a joke. Lighten up. " sudopod Apr 2012 #264

I feel sorry for her. KitSileya Apr 2012 #154

There was a time when they wouldn't have been able to. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #177

That's the whole point of releasing the name.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #214

When I was much younger, I knew somebody who was rumored to have done something similar RZM Apr 2012 #215

may be she was hungry? Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #222

Doesn't she know how unhealthy McDonald's burgers are? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2012 #245

Maybe she was horny and hungry? BiggJawn Apr 2012 #269

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If the cop were any kind of .. sendero Apr 2012 #271

+1 nt sudopod Apr 2012 #272