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In reply to the discussion: The Rude Pundit ought to just steer clear of sexist/homophobic [View all]BainsBane
(53,035 posts)293. My point was about the reaction by people here.
I'll post it again:
One comment about age and people go berserk
Sexism and homophobia, no problem.
I bet any amount of money if someone set themselves up as the anti-old white men pundit, people here would be up in arms. Too many have no problem with humor directed at the subaltern, but if they themselves are every targeted, all hell breaks lose. The uproar over the age comment demonstrated just that, as did the call out thread about the person who referenced "malcontents." Racism, homophobia, and misogyny are fair game, just don't make fun of anyone who actually counts.
Sexism and homophobia, no problem.
I bet any amount of money if someone set themselves up as the anti-old white men pundit, people here would be up in arms. Too many have no problem with humor directed at the subaltern, but if they themselves are every targeted, all hell breaks lose. The uproar over the age comment demonstrated just that, as did the call out thread about the person who referenced "malcontents." Racism, homophobia, and misogyny are fair game, just don't make fun of anyone who actually counts.
Subaltern means any subordinate group and certainly includes people of color. I even explicitly mention racism. No where do I say what the Rude Pundit does and doesn't do. I haven't read enough by him to say. My comment is about what insults people here find acceptable vs. the one's they don't. The subaltern are supposed to be able to take a joke and not be offended when insulted, but if anyone mentions age, malcontents, or white privilege, all hell breaks lose.
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But it's just performance art! And besides, Ann Coulter and the Cheneys are bad.
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#1
He is not a bigot but he uses bigotry in the form of sexist/homophobic terms and stereotypes.
boston bean
Jun 2014
#83
If you are offended, then trash the threads. Plez dont try to censor what we read. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#201
That's cute, but where do you stand? You favor a small few determining what the rest of us
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#358
My bad. I forgot about the "asshole and proud if it" exception to homophobic language.
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#7
Self-righteous indignation is often over blown. You can ignore posters and/or trash threads. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#202
Sure he can. I can to, and I can come to my own conclusions, and I can speak to
boston bean
Jun 2014
#9
I think people need to stop going overboard with what they consider sexist and homophobic.
phleshdef
Jun 2014
#10
Let him know. In no time at all he can be as widely read and popular as you are.
11 Bravo
Jun 2014
#12
Another bringing this to the personal, like the only reason for posting was
boston bean
Jun 2014
#109
Okay, you find words offensive, but I think you are missing the whole point of some of RP rants
Hestia
Jun 2014
#251
Minitrue says rudepundit doubleplusungood. Does thoughtcrime. Make unperson.
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#21
What I got out of your OP is that you're clearly in favor of controlling what other people write and
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#56
I'm already itching for a reunion! I just can't quit you, 23, Nikki or Cooley- who doesn't
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#298
now I have hosts lying and saying no one judged us to be an "infamous group"
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#325
I am critical of his writing. Hell, if I can't say that, what the hell can I say?
boston bean
Jun 2014
#63
If the Rude Pundit is reading this thread I strongly urge him to totally ignore your "suggestions",
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#98
Yeah, and what I see is tantamount to "SHUTUP, you can't tell other people what to do"
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#120
apparently you'd like to burn this thread. why is it that "free speech" only goes one way? nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jun 2014
#331
better still, people who are offended by the Rude Pundit could just steer clear..
frylock
Jun 2014
#19
Why are people trying to limit what other people should or should not read?
boston bean
Jun 2014
#22
really?! you ask that in a thread you started advising the Rude Pundit to limit what he writes?
frylock
Jun 2014
#24
LOL. You think I used it to make a sexist joke? You think I used it to attack another woman?
boston bean
Jun 2014
#28
Well, in my case, I enjoy his diatribes *despite* the offensive terms I don't like.
cyberswede
Jun 2014
#91
they also gave alerts and juries and hosts to deal with them. the hosts appear to be so paralyzed
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#285
So, you don't want to answer me @ standards here, instead dredge up old bullshit.
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#311
Any time the tables are turned on a select few, such as yourself, it's "dredging up old bullshit".
pacalo
Jun 2014
#319
Du is the victim when hosts freely admit they judge DUers INSTEAD of the content here- and other
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#320
Since you accused me of lying- here you go- the ugly truth about the hosts forum:
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#326
you brought it up, and accused me of lying about it. I did not insult anyone- I said other people
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#342
yeah, it makes DU suck that some hosts are so vindictive and openly hostile towards alerters
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#356
why doesn't RP just steer clear of people he doesn't like? double standard, no? nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jun 2014
#335
Yes, he has used the n-word. Here is a link. Also used the s word for latinos and k word for Jews
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#168
it's pretty clear that those people *would* use the n-word if they thought they could get away
TheFrenchRazor
Jun 2014
#337
Maybe people who can't deal with Rude Pundit's writing style ought to just steer clear of him.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#25
Doesn't everything you wrote in this post apply equally to your reaction to the OP?
Squinch
Jun 2014
#105
Here's the difference, in case it's too subtle for you see it on its face.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#124
You do not want the Rude Pundit to change, and you are saying so. She DOES want the Rude Pundit to
Squinch
Jun 2014
#129
Castigating doesn't mean victimizing. Castigating means criticizing. No one said you were
Squinch
Jun 2014
#158
The OP wants posts written to her satisfaction, so it's just as important that others
pacalo
Jun 2014
#182
I never read RP nor any of the 'I'm a ranting maniac' types. When someone declares that being a
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2014
#26
The funny thing is, I thought this particular piece was not anywhere close to his strongest stuff...
truebrit71
Jun 2014
#294
I love when people tell others what words to use, and use the verboten words in their complaint
NightWatcher
Jun 2014
#36
I'll type this real slow for you. You complain about sexist terms, yet you used them
NightWatcher
Jun 2014
#47
My favorite part is how Rude's fans can't handle even mild criticism aimed at him
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#43
Suggesting alternatives and providing feedback isn't "controlling language."
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#58
Can't the same be said about you and your reaction to this OP? If you don't like it, don't read it,
Squinch
Jun 2014
#116
We're sending troops to Iraq again. How many more threads about a blog post will there be?
LeftyMom
Jun 2014
#40
Judging by the number of responses, people seem to view this as quite important...
The Road Runner
Jun 2014
#159
Very true. In the marketplace of ideas, this thread seems to have a good bit of value.
riqster
Jun 2014
#264
At least RP didn't really cross the line by addressing white privilege or something.
NuclearDem
Jun 2014
#70
He also uses the N word for African Americans, S word for Latinos and K word for Jews
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#175
No need for you to, but the suggestion that he only picks on two groups is not valid. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#245
Sure it was. You claim slurs against two groups is accepted, but vs another it isnt.
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#247
Amazing, is it not? "I didn't say what I said, and stop saying that I said it!"
11 Bravo
Jun 2014
#287
When TRP uses racist slurs, he uses them to demonstrate what hateful stupid rightwingers think.
redqueen
Jun 2014
#297
You never write about something you want to write about, and are possibly in disagreement with?
boston bean
Jun 2014
#96
Thank you - as a woman, who does NOT speak for all women, I do not get my thong in a bunch
Hestia
Jun 2014
#256
Did someone tell you that you should be offended because she is offended? Because that was nowhere
Squinch
Jun 2014
#347
It's pathetic how many here apparently can't differentiate rudeness/vulgarity from bigotry.
redqueen
Jun 2014
#103
Apparently you find BB's suggestion worse than people using slurs like "pansies".
redqueen
Jun 2014
#274
Yeah. Like I said: I have a bigger problem with bigoted insults than suggestions. nt
redqueen
Jun 2014
#281
I think the Rude Pundit should keep writing exactly as he has been and not change one bit.
NYC Liberal
Jun 2014
#112
How about we try avoiding Conservative Cave and Discussionist stereotypes of DU?
Paladin
Jun 2014
#114
I assume you would continue to read if he left out the sexist/homophobic comments
boston bean
Jun 2014
#121
The way he presents the truth is edgy. Sometimes its what it takes to get people to wake up ....
marble falls
Jun 2014
#185
So you think it should have been alerted on, but it is out of bounds to ask if you alerted
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2014
#145
Free speech applies all around. She expressed an opinion. She hasn't censored anyone.
Squinch
Jun 2014
#167
She didn't alert on it and she wasn't on the jury. She stated an opinion, and she did so very
Squinch
Jun 2014
#184
It does apply when one doesn't agree with the speech -- that's my whole point.
DeSwiss
Jun 2014
#206
Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with anything I wrote. Maybe if you read it again, because
Squinch
Jun 2014
#345
Saying "ought to" is tantamount to the use of force? That's completely absurd.
Squinch
Jun 2014
#235
Well, I've never heard it before, and I didn't notice or see that in the post.
boston bean
Jun 2014
#161
Not one person in that thread spoke out -- or alerted. The hypocrisy & double standards
pacalo
Jun 2014
#196
It's not like I was a participant in the thread, immersed in its development enough to have
pacalo
Jun 2014
#312
So many people seem think that we are criticizing that post just because of "bad language", or ...
dawg
Jun 2014
#170
SO then. You are not saying I AM homophobic. The Rude one is NOT really homophobic
BootinUp
Jun 2014
#179
And its a frigging character, an act. As a true brit, I am sure you will appreciate this...
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#181
Yes, as a good liberal why dont you write a list of what he can and cannot say? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#200
Ah, DU's censors are hard at work telling people to stop saying bad words.
backscatter712
Jun 2014
#243
It is against the rules of the Intertubes to answer a question with a question
snooper2
Jun 2014
#275
yeah, also he is not god, occasionally he'll say thinks that are far too 'rude' for a website that
La Lioness Priyanka
Jun 2014
#263
yeah- Sweetpea is still squirting occasionally, and it sucks. Adding the canned pumpkin to her 99%
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#332
I ended up with rabbit because they thought she might be allergic to chicken and fish, which is
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#341
Bullshit. If you don't like what he has to say, hide posts with "Rude Pundit" in them. Stop
ChisolmTrailDem
Jun 2014
#270
TRP identifies his threads with "The Rude Pundit:," steer clear or update profile to 'ignore.' nt
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2014
#277
People here used ro defend bullying and advocated prison rape a lot more often,
redqueen
Jun 2014
#304
I know, and those were some idiotic views. But I was actually referring to
ChisolmTrailDem
Jun 2014
#316
I have no idea what you are referring to, and am pretty sure I don't want to!
bettyellen
Jun 2014
#321
I disagree under the simple principle of I am not on this earth to tell others how to express
CBGLuthier
Jun 2014
#344
May I suggest that if a DUer is offended by "rude," sexist, crude, offensive, ugly, nasty
JDPriestly
Jun 2014
#352