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In reply to the discussion: Krugman: 'Mr. Obama is looking like a very consequential president indeed' [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)23. Again, lame.
I wish cali were here. She is much more eloquent at taking apart this attempt that bobs up every once in a while, to pretend that what is happening in Vermont has anything whatsoever to do with what corporate politicians have been doing.
You have lost the argument when you shift to trying to make it about me, Josh.
It's about the policies.
Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks?
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks?
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Apologism for the wrong direction never reversed direction. We are constantly fed this garbage, this illusion, this utter FICTION that the Third Way is working on our behalf and that we are making incremental progress But the movement is in the opposite direction, relentlessly.
THAT's your midterm problem, not recalcitrant citizens who won't smile and vote for their own predation.
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Krugman: 'Mr. Obama is looking like a very consequential president indeed' [View all]
Newsjock
Jun 2014
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I did read the article, and I commented on what he mentioned specifically.
woo me with science
Jun 2014
#8
Sorry Jeff, but the criticisms are valid, and it's important that they be aired. Yes, Obama has ...
Scuba
Jun 2014
#44
Well, I don't think people will get excited about step 2 if they feel they were silenced at step 1.
Scuba
Jun 2014
#84
" It's going to take a bit to rebuild what the DLC destroyed." The DLC is still with us but w/o the
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#96
Why court preventable doom with bad policies?....We're replaying the screw ups of the 90's
Armstead
Jun 2014
#74
I prefer that you'd be right....however, I've seen too mant replays of the same mistakes
Armstead
Jun 2014
#86
We tried to fix Death Panels by voting for a presidential candidate who PROMISED a public
Doctor_J
Jun 2014
#57
Actually LBJ enacted Medicare, Medicaid, VRA, CRA, and the war on poverty in 3 years
Doctor_J
Jun 2014
#64
Again, talking about me rather than the policies. Focusing on "praising Obama," rather than
woo me with science
Jun 2014
#37
No, I didn't say how awful Krugman is. I refuted the points he made with Obama's actual policies.
woo me with science
Jun 2014
#39
We are witnessing nascent fascism, sustained assault on the very foundations of our Constitution.
woo me with science
Jun 2014
#42
Please post your links showing that Americans support the items on that list.
woo me with science
Jun 2014
#11
Not everyone can run for office, and such action should not be necessary to have a voice.
Scuba
Jun 2014
#87
And their is an acknowledgement in the article that not everything has been rosy and perfect
rpannier
Jun 2014
#34
Even if I agreed with your list, what is the alternative, in your mind, on election day
randys1
Jun 2014
#51
No, those who claim that the last 6 years have been some sort of sea change in favor of the working
Doctor_J
Jun 2014
#59
All of those issues are complex and have legitimate reasons for both parties supporting them.
DCBob
Jun 2014
#88
Nailed it: being influenced, often without realizing it, by the prevailing media narrative
freshwest
Jun 2014
#12
All the bad press is the result of having a record and no honeymoon for second termers.
craigmatic
Jun 2014
#16
Well, Krugman has probably been talking to so-called "activist" liberals. You know,
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2014
#18
Wow. I may be mistaken, but I thought Krugman was already firmly UNDER the bus.
cui bono
Jun 2014
#22
I'd like to believe Krugman. He's a smart guy and usually knows what he's talking about.
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#33
Sort of. He was against the ACA when Gingrinch tried to get it passed, and when it was
Doctor_J
Jun 2014
#99
I agree. After a surpisingly weak first term, Obama has definitely improved in his second term.
Vattel
Jun 2014
#56
he is pointing right at the ideologues who cannot compromise on their dogma
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2014
#79
"...if these achievements were made without Republican support, so what?"
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2014
#111