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happyslug

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87. Guys have to get use to being kicked, I was by my older sisters....
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Thu Jun 12, 2014, 04:31 PM - Edit history (1)

and my Mother had one rule "Boys do NOT hit Girls". It was rough when they were BIGGER then me, but became of little consequence once I became larger. Guys taking abuse from Girls is no big thing, it is like dealing with anyone, you have to take the good with the bad.

Now, you did mention one big differences between the sexes, fighting. Most male fighting is positioning fighting, neither participate whats to hurt the other, but they also want to show the point where they will not be pushed (and how far to push another boy). Thus boys fight, and then get back to working together. Girls are a different issue, most girl fights are to the death. they WANT to do harm to each other. Afterward the tension that caused the fight continues (unlike boys fighting where such tensions tend to disappear). Worse, boys fight under understood rules NOT to harm each other, girls do NOT fight under those rules. Thus girls get into less fights, but they tend to be more serious then boys fights.

I also joke about the man I saw running from his wife. I asked him why was he running? He could take down his wife at any time. He turned to me and said three things can happen when a man gets into a fight with a woman:

1. The Woman beats, him, and his friends laugh at him for not being able to beat a woman.
2. The man wins, and he gets the reputation as a Wife Beater i.e. can not fight men, but willing to beat up on women.
3. Be called a coward for running away.

His choice was simple, given the above three bad choices, being called a coward was the best of three bad options. Thus he ran away till she calmed down. This reflects women's tendency NOT to do positioning fighting, which is the norm among preteen males (by high school most males have worked past that tendency thus you see if mostly in Grade School and Middle School).

This difference between the sexes exist, to a limited extent, to adulthood. Men, being the larger in size and muscle, when in a "fight" with a woman (not abuse, that is a different subject) tend to keep it verbal even if a woman does minor physical acts to him. This goes back to his childhood where beating up someone weaker was NOT looked on with favor by his friends. Women also follows this trend for they rarely believe they will prevail in a physical fight with a male.

Side note: Abuse is different then the "fights" I mention above. Every relationship has "fights" that is where two people disagree. Abuse is when the point is not the disagreement but to put someone down, either verbally or physically. On the surface people confuse fights with abuse, but once you look into the situation you see the difference. In a "Fight" the parties never try to harm one another, in abuse to harm the other is the point. I have seen 5 foot women get in "Fights" with 6 foot men, but the fight NEVER becomes abuse for such abuse is not the intention of either party (Given the size differences these tend to remain verbal fights). On the other hand I have seen abuse done by weaker people on stronger people (through it is mostly men on women) so to put the other person in "her or his place". I have seen that done not only physically but also verbally (and sometime exclusively verbally). I must make myself clear that when I am using the term "Fight" I do not mean "abuse".

k and r and waiting for the usual suspects in 3. . . . 2 . . . 1. . . niyad Jun 2014 #1
That's the bingo board, right there. And niyad is right about the usual suspects. Squinch Jun 2014 #2
a million recs! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #3
Are you looking for conversation or capitulation? n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #4
If somebody posted a list of lies racists say about people of color would you ask the same question? LeftyMom Jun 2014 #5
So you're looking for absolute capitulation. Got it. And the point of posting this is....? Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #6
If you want a conversation you can start by answering my questions. There were only two of them. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #8
Here are your answers... Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #9
"Men's Rights" activism is an anti-woman movement. If you subscribe to such bigoted notions, there's LeftyMom Jun 2014 #12
You're just as bad as the ones who say the Feminist movement is an anti-man movement. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #16
You're not convincing anybody. Is reddit down or are you just bored? LeftyMom Jun 2014 #18
You sound like a right-winger, you know that? Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #20
See post 15. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #22
No no she doesn't, you're getting all confused CreekDog Jun 2014 #52
No, you are confusing "men's issues" with the so-called Men's Rights Movement. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #10
are you looking to walk into the thread and simply derail? or are you looking to walk into seabeyond Jun 2014 #11
I'm asking why this gets constant play here at DU. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #13
You're not very good at this. nt LeftyMom Jun 2014 #15
What are you wanting out of this thread? Really, what do you want? Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #19
I realize all of us uppity bitches look alike, but you seem to be unaware that I'm not the OP. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #21
You're very aggressively and actively defending it. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #23
You don't like it when women talk back, do you? LeftyMom Jun 2014 #24
That's not "talking back", that's just being a jerk. n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #25
What do you want for hamfisted threadjacking, a plate of cookies? LeftyMom Jun 2014 #27
If my 7 word response jacked this thread, the OP didn't have much juice, did it? n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #29
At no point have you engaged the substance of the OP. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #39
How could I? LMAO n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #41
If you don't know how to write a counterargument I can't help you. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #45
It has been demonstrated by me saying 7 little words that discussion would never be possible. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #47
"8 lies that women say about men" is not analogous to the OP. redqueen Jun 2014 #26
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #28
You know what? If a person of a different race gave a list of things that racists said about them, redqueen Jun 2014 #31
You folks are the ones acting hateful, aggressive and downright verbally violent. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #34
Ah, the tone argument. redqueen Jun 2014 #36
The ladies. So emotional. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #37
LOL. Love the wiki shield there. Nice try. n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #40
Thanks again for kicking the thread! We really appreciate your help in discrediting MRA arguments. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #43
And when did I say I was trying to "credit" them. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #44
Discussion isn't possible because you're threadjacking. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #48
My original response was to gauge the level of civility in this thread. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #49
Your first post was confrontational, hostile. You had only one goal in mind evident to all seabeyond Jun 2014 #55
Yep, agreed. nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #58
yes, His Tone brought about the replies. That is what I find interesting about the tone argument Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #86
No she was just describing your tactics canuckledragger Jun 2014 #62
It is you who is acting like a jerk on this thread. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #68
It took five tries (two already alerted before me) but this user has been escorted from this thread alp227 Jun 2014 #59
I'm surprised it was hidden. I've seen other DUers say similar things, even more directly. redqueen Jun 2014 #60
No. You are the only one saying you must agree and with all. Link to one seabeyond Jun 2014 #53
You might reflect on the definition of a bully seabeyond Jun 2014 #54
It sounds like you're taking the OP waaay too personally. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #61
You will of course allow us the precise and relevant connection between disusing an issue LanternWaste Jun 2014 #66
Their ideas are rejected Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #73
Only certain types of people reject them. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #75
info Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #14
I don't post very often. Your point is what? To bully? Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #17
information is bullying? excuse me. I am sorry I bothered you. Good bye and Peace Out. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #30
No, but the implication was to show what, I have a subscription to the Men's Group. Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #32
you do understand an apology when you see one, right? You do understand Good bye and Peace out. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #33
That was no apology. n/t Darkhawk32 Jun 2014 #35
eom Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #42
I am aware. I have yet to see a supportive post in regards to women's issues seabeyond Jun 2014 #56
never noticed this paticular poster til this thread. I doubt I ever see anything of substance from Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #85
A combination of shaming and capitulation Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #72
so you too came in to derail, not really address the actual Op. no surprise. right? consistent. seabeyond Jun 2014 #88
If you have arguments against these points or areas to discuss why didn't you present them? el_bryanto Jun 2014 #77
Excellent OP. It's great to have all this in one neat package thucythucy Jun 2014 #7
Great op. bravenak Jun 2014 #38
and right on time, too. I love the punctual ones, don't you, bravenak Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #46
It was perfect timing, it happens everytime like clockwork. bravenak Jun 2014 #50
. boston bean Jun 2014 #83
DEFENDERS OF MEN, UNITE!nt bravenak Jun 2014 #84
feminism has nothing to do with hating men. Leme Jun 2014 #51
Lets me pick some bones with your statements happyslug Jun 2014 #57
As the mom of one male and pipi_k Jun 2014 #63
Which points do you think aren't lies? nt redqueen Jun 2014 #65
I really was hoping pipi_k Jun 2014 #69
I honestly do not even know how to respond to this. redqueen Jun 2014 #74
Guys have to get use to being kicked, I was by my older sisters.... happyslug Jun 2014 #87
if a woman strikes, she should be charged with assault. a girls in school assaults, it should seabeyond Jun 2014 #90
We have to go with tendency not exceptions. happyslug Jun 2014 #93
i do not agree with you. raising two boys... nephews and nieces and my own experiences. seabeyond Jun 2014 #94
Cooperation has nothing to do with a person's sex. redqueen Jun 2014 #64
I want freedom from the patriarchy - not equality within it. seabeyond Jun 2014 #91
Could you provide a citation for one of your points? el_bryanto Jun 2014 #79
Good post Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #92
I disagree with nearly all your points because your avoiding the issues being raised. equalityed Jun 2014 #95
welcome to du. MRA points and all seabeyond Jun 2014 #96
No shit. ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #97
Anyone who claims that male circumcision is "just as bad" as female genital mutilation Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #67
Fascinating trumad Jun 2014 #70
This article is pretty easy to pick apart Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #71
Did you even read your links? Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #78
Good article - thanks for posting. nt el_bryanto Jun 2014 #76
"with the hope we can have a better conversation" mokawanis Jun 2014 #81
Did you hear the one about the men's rights group that raised $25K to protect themselves KamaAina Jun 2014 #82
Thanks for this post. redqueen Jun 2014 #89
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