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In reply to the discussion: A History of Liberal White Racism [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)not libertarian. I just say he's libertarian because he likes Ayn Rand, but not libertarianism. I tell him I don't like her work at all. He told me, just now, he's not libertarian so I need to stop saying that about him. LOL. so, okay. he's not libertarian.
..even tho he likes that Russian woman's fiction...
When I asked him, he didn't know the context and he was responding just about culture in general and he said, first, politicians are coached to never show anger (he was talking about African American politicians, in particular.) Then said it can be dangerous around law enforcement types.
And I said, yeah, but I mean "you" (him) specifically. So I said - would you not show your anger around a white person you know here? (where we live)
And he said - when I am angry, everyone knows it.
And I said - yeah, that was the impression I got - but he's never been angry with me. he plays music with a guy I know, a white guy, where my friend says, in that capacity, he is HNIC.
I didn't know what that meant, so he told me, and I said I would never use that expression - but he says it about himself, in a Morgan Freeman in that movie Lean On Me kinda way - so that's where I was coming from when I thought he would have no problem expressing his anger. And he is "HNIC" in that capacity - I've seen it.
He's someone I asked to house share with me in the recent past because I need a roommate, or else I need to move, and I don't want to have to have some 18 year old southern baptist girl sharing a house with me... neither of us would be happy.. LOL... so I asked him b/c he's renting and we know a lot of the same people and we have always gotten along. always been honest, I thought. so I asked him if he felt like he couldn't be honest with me. He laughed at the idea. He's really straight forward - which is something I like about him.
I would never doubt for a moment what you say about what someone is taught - I was responding to you, seemingly, telling me that what he said to me wasn't genuinely talking about what's in his heart, in relation to his frame of mind - IN SPITE of the shitty things he's had to deal with - some of which I know about, much of which I'm sure I do not. The context of the remark was whether or not he would want to share living space with a white person (that would've been me) or if that would be too weird. What he thought would be too weird is that I'm a female and we're not romantically involved. But I've always shared living space with males (I have two sons), so, to me, it would be no big deal.
But that's why I also wrote about what I had been taught, versus what I did - to say - it's about him as a person, tho, yes, I know it's dangerous for black men in American society, oftentimes, to express anger in situations in which white people have some say over what happens to you.
but a woman I used to work with, from Grenada, not the U.S. was never afraid to express her anger with her co-workers - and no one thought she should have to temper her words. A woman who is Af-Am who is a friend of mine - she's never been angry with me, but I've heard her anger when she's shared some stuff with me... just two examples out of a lot - but these are both people I am or was close to, as a friend.
But that guy, even tho he says exactly what he thinks - people love him as a person because he's funny and nice - and, sometimes, angry.