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6. Shades of Dickens

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:01 PM

Dec 2011

It's absolutely vile.

http://www.ktvu.com/ap/ap/california/children-of-welfare-incur-debts-of-parents/nFsZs/
The lawyers representing Hartley and other welfare advocates believe that thousands of children are on the hook. That's because in California, 1.1 million out of the 1.4 million welfare recipients are children.
"This has been an issue for a while," said Kevin Aslanian, director of the Coalition of California Welfare Rights Organization. "It's widespread
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Authorities say the overpayments occurred between March 1996 and March 1998. Irene was born in 1997.
To make matters worse, Ayers says Fresno County officials have lost the case file and are not sure what — or who — caused the overpayment that Irene must pay back. Irene's mother was a juvenile herself during that time and ineligible to apply for welfare on her own. Ayers believes his deceased son — Irene's grandfather — is ultimately responsible, but is still at loss as to why Irene is now responsible.

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Children of welfare recipients in California forced to pay for welfare debt [View all] Catherina Dec 2011 OP

How can this be legal? Alameda Dec 2011 #1

I don't know. I can't wrap my mind around this. Catherina Dec 2011 #3

WTF? n/t Little Star Dec 2011 #2

That is some evil shit m Brown should be commuting every single case. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #4

This is mind boggling etherealtruth Dec 2011 #5

Shades of Dickens suffragette Dec 2011 #6

Dickens, that's what I was thinking. Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #9

I hadn't heard of this either suffragette Dec 2011 #21

I'm still shaking my head in disbelief Catherina Dec 2011 #11

It's mindboggling suffragette Dec 2011 #23

Serfs' up, Baby! Octafish Dec 2011 #7

It sure is Catherina Dec 2011 #13

Each day it's yet another step into servitude for many Americans, who really need to pay RKP5637 Dec 2011 #14

That's horrible! I can't believe it's legal for them to pull that crap. Luciferous Dec 2011 #8

Neither can I - I'd like to see corroboration that isn't from WSWS, anyway. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2011 #19

When you google the title of the article you'll get several Cerridwen Dec 2011 #20

Haven't found anything mentioning the fetus part that isn't just quoting WSWS, though. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2011 #32

Very strange. It's in post #6 also. Catherina Dec 2011 #33

I also quoted the relevant part in post #6 from ktvu.com suffragette Dec 2011 #37

See post #6 n/t Catherina Dec 2011 #26

See post #6 suffragette Dec 2011 #27

Irene incurred a debt while she was a FETUS? elehhhhna Dec 2011 #10

This is blatantly unconstitutional. Pab Sungenis Dec 2011 #12

That cannot be true. The mother incurred the debt, if any. The baby is not responsible sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #15

This is the sort of thing that eventually gets old Judge Lynch up and moving. mbperrin Dec 2011 #16

Bill Clinton brought us welfare reform. This was part of it; the CA version. Cerridwen Dec 2011 #17

Not at all, not in a million years. Catherina Dec 2011 #24

I remember this, too Bryn Dec 2011 #43

I was living in California when that happened and working with college students suffragette Dec 2011 #28

When this was going on NOLALady Dec 2011 #50

My sister was hit by that directly living in Mississippi hootinholler Dec 2011 #51

Ummm...we have slavery again limpyhobbler Dec 2011 #18

Sounds like a Newt scheme aletier_v Dec 2011 #22

WTF!? This is allowed? fascisthunter Dec 2011 #25

I'm in California. How can we take action to stop this? Zalatix Dec 2011 #29

Maybe contact the Public Interest Law Project and the Western Center on Law and Poverty since they suffragette Dec 2011 #39

Thanks, I will see if they need donations. n/t Zalatix Dec 2011 #40

And Welcome to DU! n/t suffragette Dec 2011 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Dec 2011 #30

Look, it's either than or the wealthy sacrifice their pin money. Can't have that! nt valerief Dec 2011 #31

I'm just going to repeat what several others have already said, SheilaT Dec 2011 #34

Someone enlighten me. I have not seen this anyplace russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #35

I haven't seen that one but based on the facts in post #6, it wouldn't surprise me Catherina Dec 2011 #36

Wow. Thanks. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #44

Damn Solly Mack Dec 2011 #38

Just like Christianity. Shadowflash Dec 2011 #42

Like everyone else, I had no idea eyewall Dec 2011 #45

I have no words for this n/t datadiva Dec 2011 #46

this is bullshit, contact the National Lawyers Guild asap or book an appt and get katty Dec 2011 #47

Insane. DirkGently Dec 2011 #48

JESUS FREAKIN HELL WHAT FREAKIN ORWELLAN/DICKINSONIAN WORLD HAS THE U.S. BEEN WRAPPED Justice wanted Dec 2011 #49