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AverageJoe90

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62. I read her reply. And it may be obvious she and I don't quite see eye to eye the whole way.

Reply to ismnotwasm (Reply #46)

Tue May 20, 2014, 01:20 AM

May 2014

But that's okay with me. She stated her point and clarification respectfully. And she deserves credit for that, IMHO.

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No! I will not Stop it! ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 OP

I got a hide for questioning someone about purported "oppression" of white men here....... bettyellen May 2014 #1

I hope you don't stop. TDale313 May 2014 #2

I don't intend to ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #3

AFreakingMen! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #5

Exactly! They create an alternate universe and then chastise you when you don't conform R B Garr May 2014 #9

It's hardly "right wing", at all, actually. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #10

You are completely unself-aware ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #12

So you're trying to connect me to Jared Taylor now? AverageJoe90 May 2014 #18

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #25

"literal white privilege" hmmm sounds an awful lot like Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #133

Yep. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #156

You are making yourself look like you do not know anything. bravenak May 2014 #27

Self awareness is the key to dealing with life ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #107

there are no facts presented, AJ. None at all. Maybe you should use IMHO more, because that would be bettyellen May 2014 #33

LOL!!! bravenak May 2014 #58

Jesus H. Christ. It's not a goddamn pet theory. The name has been around for decades... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #70

perfect betsuni May 2014 #79

HA! Exactly! laundry_queen May 2014 #83

I hate to see these passages repeated, but yeah, no one should tell you to 'stop it!' freshwest May 2014 #85

Thank you for posting that link RainDog May 2014 #99

An Academician... Or Two... WillyT May 2014 #4

And completely unsurprisingly ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #6

WTF does that even mean? He's splitting those hairs down to the microscopic level, and for what? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #228

I guess the former ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #289

fwiw RainDog May 2014 #7

This here ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #11

LOL RainDog May 2014 #17

Incredulous person checking in! U4ikLefty May 2014 #80

... RainDog May 2014 #82

no prob U4ikLefty May 2014 #84

Laugh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #135

But he is accused of being "wise beyond his years" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #157

"...his un/semi-informed opinion equals that of highly educated opinions." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #235

That entire exchange is just... breathtaking. Number23 May 2014 #86

It was the first time I saw him here RainDog May 2014 #97

I've started to wonder if it's performance art or something. Maybe *unintentional* performance art. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #239

Maybe it's "philosophical" performance art ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #291

I think it's intentional performance "art" RainDog May 2014 #292

"Do we have to call it 'climate change'? Doesn't 'climate going up and down' more accurately reflect nomorenomore08 May 2014 #240

"Smart beyond my years" gollygee May 2014 #126

"Not quite as virulently racist as it used to be" is in *no way* the same thing as "not racist." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #234

This person has no concept of factual support for an argument. kwassa May 2014 #8

One would think that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #14

And yet that's the excuse RainDog May 2014 #20

Was this supposed to be a reply to someone in a thread? morningfog May 2014 #13

It was a response to a comment in a, now, locked thread ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #15

It was intended to disrupt and to troll, morningfog. That's what it was. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #19

Why do you always race to the race threads? bravenak May 2014 #23

Not every race thread is about the "privilege" thing, though. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #29

BUT YOU NEVER FAIL TO SHOW UP AND MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE WITH YOUR FOX NEWS bravenak May 2014 #38

I'm truly sorry you feel that way. Really. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #42

Define your terms RainDog May 2014 #51

Just stop. bravenak May 2014 #54

We do know you online, so that isn't so, TBH. bettyellen May 2014 #63

Sure, if you say so, oh wise one. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #65

here is an opportuntiy to learn something about the source you used- you misread them completely bettyellen May 2014 #67

Reacted in fear? Au contraire, mon chere! =) AverageJoe90 May 2014 #68

I'm asking all the same questions myself... n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #241

This can't be real. bravenak May 2014 #248

Well he top himself this time ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #31

I was supposed to be giving up DU for a week but this guy....... bravenak May 2014 #39

How about you just link to the thread? eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #26

Still at it? What a shame. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #16

Why do you show up in every race thread? bravenak May 2014 #21

Stormfront? Give me a fucking break. Seriously. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #24

I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A BREAK IF YOU ARE GOING TO SHOW UP ON EVERY RACE THREAD bravenak May 2014 #34

"RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS" I'm afraid that's just not accurate. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #35

Look down thread. bravenak May 2014 #45

This isn't a race thread this is a pile on Egnever May 2014 #36

Of course you came to give your words of wisdom. bravenak May 2014 #40

Blah blah blah Egnever May 2014 #43

Then get some glasses blindy. bravenak May 2014 #44

Good one! Egnever May 2014 #50

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #49

Yes Egnever May 2014 #55

It should have been, Egnever. Number23 May 2014 #87

Lot's of hide worthy in this mess Egnever May 2014 #101

Accuracy often is. LanternWaste May 2014 #171

Or maybe you do.. bravenak May 2014 #57

I don't like to say this, but sadly, there's some truth to that. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #60

Dampen it by letting in a few BainsBane May 2014 #94

Translation of the above .... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #109

This is unreal. bravenak May 2014 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author bettyellen May 2014 #61

If a creationist were here RainDog May 2014 #98

I am pretty much Egnever May 2014 #100

That's a pretty facile argument on it's face ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #110

Do you understand the difference between facts and opinions? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #137

Including ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #161

If she's getting a lot of traffic on a post RainDog May 2014 #168

+1 gollygee May 2014 #163

Thanks. I do try, at least. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #139

You don't try. That is the problem. kwassa May 2014 #300

It's not about disagreement. It's a white person thinking he knows more about racism than people of nomorenomore08 May 2014 #224

This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #108

This is a call-out thread Union Scribe May 2014 #47

This. This. Just this. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #66

I point blank asked him to stop posting about WP RainDog May 2014 #69

"He seems to be intentionally antagonizing people here by doing this." As opposed to this OP? AverageJoe90 May 2014 #75

define your terms RainDog May 2014 #78

Here's the context for this thread RainDog May 2014 #91

I have also asked this person multiple times to stop posting in these threads Number23 May 2014 #90

Yes betsuni May 2014 #92

^^^^This! Squinch May 2014 #221

"But being.....ANTAGONISTIC" Speak for yourself! AverageJoe90 May 2014 #140

We're all bored beyond tears with your Rush Limbaugh impersonation Number23 May 2014 #309

It's not "invented"? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #22

"then YOU invented it!" I give up. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #28

Sorry. He's not the one with the issues here. TDale313 May 2014 #30

She apparently doesn't agree with you ismnotwasm May 2014 #46

I read her reply. And it may be obvious she and I don't quite see eye to eye the whole way. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #62

eye to eye? LOL. You completely misunderstood her. bettyellen May 2014 #81

Wrong link.....or was there something else in mind? AverageJoe90 May 2014 #117

Oh no- that was the perfect link for you. This is thread is all about the Miseducation of AJ... bettyellen May 2014 #119

So maybe you can find another person that knows about this stuff ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #112

This whole thread is a BS pile on. Egnever May 2014 #32

Yep. Right from the very start! nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #76

What distinguishes what you are calling a pile-on thread from a thread in which MANY people are Squinch May 2014 #222

As the author of the article cited . . . Rebecca Trotter May 2014 #37

Clearly misunderstood. ismnotwasm May 2014 #41

Awesome post Egnever May 2014 #48

Thank you for posting this. n/t TDale313 May 2014 #52

We see this response that you mention RainDog May 2014 #64

"...avoiding discussion of the issues behind the term." This. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #71

You got to recognize comments which surpass your own explanation. Baitball Blogger May 2014 #123

You can't "force recognition". In fact, forcing defensiveness is counterproductive. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #247

One can't "force defensiveness" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #293

Holding a mirror in front of one's face will usually force recognition in those who care to see. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #294

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #306

Yep. On these issues, it seems to me... TDale313 May 2014 #72

My response: AverageJoe90 May 2014 #74

Downplaying is really the same thing as denying, in practical terms. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #243

that is exactly it, minimize, deny, cite sources they did not even understand......... bettyellen May 2014 #77

Amazing post Number23 May 2014 #89

This. Starry Messenger May 2014 #115

Recommend..Yours and "Rebecca Trotter's" post up above... KoKo May 2014 #151

Good post, KoKo! AverageJoe90 May 2014 #164

Do you really believe that someone ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #166

I don't see how dividing people by using offensive language can brings us together KoKo May 2014 #167

The divisions are already there ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #172

People of color and different genders have persecuted and been persecuted throughout history.. KoKo May 2014 #176

Please stop acting like this is about blame. TDale313 May 2014 #197

I would argue that "majority" folks ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #202

Good point. n/t TDale313 May 2014 #204

Please point to where I assigned any blame. But, ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #200

How would they do that, though. What could they do that would KoKo May 2014 #225

Stop being doing racist stuff ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #237

"We've all been persecuted" BainsBane May 2014 #214

Beg to differ...I never said anything that you said I was saying in my replies... KoKo May 2014 #230

Your words BainsBane May 2014 #236

Sad stuff there... KoKo May 2014 #264

True stuff, here. kwassa May 2014 #268

I think President Obama might differ with you there, though. KoKo May 2014 #272

White privilege is not about making anyone the enemy. I don't know where you get that idea. kwassa May 2014 #287

Did you read his book ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #295

You are minimizing the unique experience of African-Americans. kwassa May 2014 #263

President Obama was Raised by Whites, though...He might differ with your view: KoKo May 2014 #283

Why did you post the same reply twice, and what does President Obama have to do with this? kwassa May 2014 #288

I guess he/she believes because PBO was raised by white folks ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #296

You see a pattern of logic to this? kwassa May 2014 #297

Yes, I understand what he/she is saying ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #305

"President Obama was Raised by Wolves, though." betsuni May 2014 #298

Thank you for your thoughts and clarification ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #121

I appreciate your effort. Baitball Blogger May 2014 #122

...... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #131

You need to stop playing games. bravenak May 2014 #134

"You hijack threads everytime and make it all about you." Not really accurate. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #138

Doesn't have to be all. Why would you think it would have to be all?? bravenak May 2014 #144

See what I mean by 'not accurate'? This is a great example! AverageJoe90 May 2014 #149

You just did everything i accused you of in this post up here. bravenak May 2014 #159

THERE IS NO SUCH ANIMAL AS "LITERAL" WHITE PRIVILEGE ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #242

All of us on DU, or most of us, have been put through a gauntlet. Baitball Blogger May 2014 #147

Well, okay, you've had your personal experiences. And I've had mine. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #152

I think it's very telling that I see the trend as moving forward, Baitball Blogger May 2014 #155

Exactly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #141

. Baitball Blogger May 2014 #148

Only problem with that is, some HAVE used it as an attack. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #158

Seriously good post. Welcome to DU. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #245

In leftist academia, the idea of white privilege is a given. It is not up for debate... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #53

but but but, a few cranks on the net beg to differ, LOL. bettyellen May 2014 #56

No shit ismnotwasm May 2014 #59

"It is not up for debate... It's more like an undeniable consciousness." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #244

Hey now, he's a whopping 23 years old. U4ikLefty May 2014 #73

really? BainsBane May 2014 #95

Actually, I find it comforting ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #124

This times 1000! JustAnotherGen May 2014 #154

Maybe he'll learn that he actually needs supporting evidence to back up his pet theories... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #246

It's so cute betsuni May 2014 #96

+1000 Bobbie Jo May 2014 #106

I have towels older than that. Starry Messenger May 2014 #201

I KNEW it! No one who has lived for a while has that much hubris. Squinch May 2014 #223

"No! I will not Stop it!" sheshe2 May 2014 #88

I don't think 1SBM has a quit bone The Traveler May 2014 #103

You are so right Trav. sheshe2 May 2014 #194

You'll drive yourself mad BainsBane May 2014 #93

Recovering Republicans Warpy May 2014 #102

And I hope you never stop. Jamastiene May 2014 #104

Amen pinboy3niner May 2014 #105

I have come to believe for many who deny white privilege boston bean May 2014 #111

"It's a reverse racism argument at its core." Not always true. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #118

A former believer? gollygee May 2014 #127

The only people who don't see that white privilege still exists ... dawg May 2014 #113

Because, apparently, you have a lot to learn ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #125

I remember being a 23 year-old "genius". dawg May 2014 #136

Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #143

I got a framed poster ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #160

Let's be careful with the age issue. I'm only 24... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #173

I was just thinking betsuni May 2014 #199

I don't think maturity is the issue. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #216

YOU are a world away from this. Squinch May 2014 #226

"But there are additional obstacles in the way of black people....." That's true. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #130

White privilege has ALWAYS meant literal privileges white people get gollygee May 2014 #170

Uh-huh. Sure. "White privilege has ALWAYS meant literal privileges white people get" AverageJoe90 May 2014 #175

How about you gollygee May 2014 #178

"because you've pulled this whole thing out of your ass." Nah. Just observing something that has.... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #181

Then post some links gollygee May 2014 #185

Just ask him if he wiped and why he didn't flush. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #211

So point to a single social scientist that supports your ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #210

Also, John Scalzi offered his own take on this controversy a while back: AverageJoe90 May 2014 #145

You entirely missed his point. ismnotwasm May 2014 #150

"You entirely missed his point." No, I didn't. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #153

In the same way that many bigots wish we'd call them something else. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #182

"In the same way that many bigots wish we'd call them something else." LOL, no. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #187

Yes, in the same way that 5 year olds don't dictate theories on linear algebra. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #191

You mean those of us who accept the reality of systemic disadvantages, but realize that............. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #208

The untold number of educated persons who have travelled through academia... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #218

I keep hearing the words ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #249

Thanks for finally being the one to take the gloves off. This had to be done at some point. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #251

LOL. "personal problem" indeed. kwassa May 2014 #301

And why is this so important that you've filled up entire threads with it? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #250

I would add ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #256

I wasn't trying to browbeat anybody, to be truthful. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #259

I think they just want you to stop insisting that your viewpoint is somehow more informed than nomorenomore08 May 2014 #262

Good! gollygee May 2014 #116

From a white male liberal.... steve2470 May 2014 #120

It exists outside the south, too Warpy May 2014 #128

yes you are correct of course nt steve2470 May 2014 #129

Heh. I just responded to him pushing the same notion again Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #132

Here's the problem; I actually pointed this out myself. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #142

I think the record has already long since been set straight. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #146

I have a question for you RainDog May 2014 #162

Nope. And TBH, I honestly would have felt quite insulted, had it come from certain other folks. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #165

thanks for taking my question in the spirit it was meant RainDog May 2014 #169

I suppose we can agree on something, at least. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #179

Great RainDog May 2014 #192

And all we have been doing for weeks is trying to set it straight... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #174

Oh, give me a break. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #177

You have an issue with the words "honest" and "truth" gollygee May 2014 #180

I'd look in the mirror if I were you.....at least in regards to the latter. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #183

ROFL gollygee May 2014 #184

It won't be. Because there's nothing to be embarrassed about. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #188

Open my eyes? Listen, I know more about this subject than almost.... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #189

Almost everyone here agrees as to the concept and definition of privilege ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #196

Who changed it? You? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #193

Concern trolling. bravenak May 2014 #186

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #198

I saw that. We need to keep posting this bingo card. bravenak May 2014 #203

That's worth keeping BainsBane May 2014 #205

It took me a full ten minutes to hunt that one down. bravenak May 2014 #206

... Jamaal510 May 2014 #207

It's just so damn accurate! bravenak May 2014 #209

Not quite. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #215

The Oracle has spoken BainsBane May 2014 #219

And ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #252

Except Catholic religion BainsBane May 2014 #255

Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #257

You still fail to understand that you are the one that doesn't get it. bravenak May 2014 #220

By the way.....yes, I did. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #229

You poor guy. bravenak May 2014 #231

Your attempt to condescend is noted. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #233

You should show your friends this thread. bravenak May 2014 #238

HELLMANN'S! betsuni May 2014 #253

Me neither. bravenak May 2014 #254

You just don't ever stop, do ya? AverageJoe90 May 2014 #265

If you stop, everyone else will. bravenak May 2014 #270

"People have responded to you in good faith".....some have, and some haven't. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #273

Are you finally done then? bravenak May 2014 #276

Are you done? AverageJoe90 May 2014 #279

You have spent six months arguing with black people about a term you don't like. bravenak May 2014 #282

I took offense at your comments, because you have no clue as to what you are talking about. kwassa May 2014 #290

No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #302

Wait, hold it gollygee May 2014 #274

But betsuni May 2014 #310

K&R: the climate change denier is wrong CreekDog May 2014 #190

Well, hello, CD. Bullshitting as usual, I see. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #212

And you have yet to ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #260

this is old, but it's what got you bounced from Environment and Energy (note: I was not a host then) CreekDog May 2014 #278

Sorry, but no cigar for you. Please, play again. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #281

I have a bingo card for that too. bravenak May 2014 #213

This one's better, but it gets one thing wrong: AverageJoe90 May 2014 #217

LOL!!!! bravenak May 2014 #261

You only think that because you're too caught up in your own arrogance to see otherwise. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #266

Is arrogant another word for uppity? bravenak May 2014 #271

"Is arrogant another word for uppity?" Um, wow. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #275

Look at how upset you are that nobody really agrees with you. bravenak May 2014 #277

I'm not nearly as upset as you might have hoped. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #284

You be civil first. It's up to you like i said. bravenak May 2014 #285

Don't stop pinboy3niner May 2014 #195

Why oh why, does a person who knows so little about a subject, have to go around pontificating nomorenomore08 May 2014 #227

This is a mobius thread of stupid Generic Other May 2014 #232

Not that there was any actual attempts to educate going on, anyway. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #267

^^^^^ The bad guy right here ^^^^^ pinboy3niner May 2014 #280

Never stop! randys1 May 2014 #258

"Denial of white privilege by privileged whites" If you knew me.....you wouldn't be saying that. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #269

LOL! Now You're a poor, disadvantaged white boy so WP doesn't exist. pinboy3niner May 2014 #286

Oh, yes I would. You've been doing this for weeks here. We do know you. kwassa May 2014 #299

You had me at nut pinboy3niner May 2014 #304

I guess shell was unnecessary. kwassa May 2014 #308

I assumed this was the case in your case RainDog May 2014 #303

For those that care ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #307