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Showing Original Post only (View all)No! I will not Stop it! ... [View all]
Last edited Tue May 20, 2014, 12:27 AM - Edit history (1)
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Honestly, just stop.
Just stop with this shit, alright? If you actually had any idea about this, you'd understand at least on a basic level, the problems I've discussed. And I might as well just come out and say it: I'll admit that my own knowledge may not be perfect in this regard. But neither is yours. And I don't know what it'll take for you to wake the fuck up: frankly, only you yourself have the answer to that, if anything.
You're right, I'm not going to listen to you invent a term, then use that invented term to interpret what the academics "intended" to mean ... especially when you are completely unable to come up with a single academician that supports you interpretation.
Just stop with this shit, alright? If you actually had any idea about this, you'd understand at least on a basic level, the problems I've discussed. And I might as well just come out and say it: I'll admit that my own knowledge may not be perfect in this regard. But neither is yours. And I don't know what it'll take for you to wake the fuck up: frankly, only you yourself have the answer to that, if anything.
But MY knowledge is based on the body of work of the social scientists; your "knowledge" is based on YOUR invented concept of what the social scientist REALLY mean when the talk about white privilege ... but can't seem to find any that support your interpretation.
You invent a term, then use that invented term to interpret what social scientists REALLY meant when they talk about white privilege; but can't find a single social scientist that has said anything approaching what you claim they mean.
What will "wake me the fuck up is you posting a link to a single social scientist that supports your made up interpretation of what social scientist REALLY when they talk about white privilege.
Well, on your suggestion I did find this, from the noted social scientist, Jared Taylor of white supremacy fame:
http://www.amren.com/features/2013/09/white-privilege/
But if nothing else, at least get started by listening to someone who's actually done some work(including writing a book on the subject!), who is quite sympathetic to the real plights suffered by PoC, both on an individual level and on a collective level.....and who's married to an African-American. And still has some legitimate criticism to offer.
http://theupsidedownworld.com/2012/05/25/the-real-reason-the-term-white-privilege-is-a-load-of-crap/
http://theupsidedownworld.com/2012/05/25/the-real-reason-the-term-white-privilege-is-a-load-of-crap/
Funny ... I'm asking you to direct me to someone/anyone that has actually done some work on the subject, and supports your made up stuff. Not even the link that you posted from the conservative white woman that "gets it", despite her curiously absent educational credentials, unless you count that she's married to a Black man, supports your made up stuff!
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I got a hide for questioning someone about purported "oppression" of white men here.......
bettyellen
May 2014
#1
Exactly! They create an alternate universe and then chastise you when you don't conform
R B Garr
May 2014
#9
there are no facts presented, AJ. None at all. Maybe you should use IMHO more, because that would be
bettyellen
May 2014
#33
Jesus H. Christ. It's not a goddamn pet theory. The name has been around for decades...
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#70
I hate to see these passages repeated, but yeah, no one should tell you to 'stop it!'
freshwest
May 2014
#85
WTF does that even mean? He's splitting those hairs down to the microscopic level, and for what?
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#228
"...his un/semi-informed opinion equals that of highly educated opinions."
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#235
I've started to wonder if it's performance art or something. Maybe *unintentional* performance art.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#239
"Do we have to call it 'climate change'? Doesn't 'climate going up and down' more accurately reflect
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#240
"Not quite as virulently racist as it used to be" is in *no way* the same thing as "not racist."
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#234
here is an opportuntiy to learn something about the source you used- you misread them completely
bettyellen
May 2014
#67
It's not about disagreement. It's a white person thinking he knows more about racism than people of
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#224
"He seems to be intentionally antagonizing people here by doing this." As opposed to this OP?
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#75
I read her reply. And it may be obvious she and I don't quite see eye to eye the whole way.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#62
Oh no- that was the perfect link for you. This is thread is all about the Miseducation of AJ...
bettyellen
May 2014
#119
What distinguishes what you are calling a pile-on thread from a thread in which MANY people are
Squinch
May 2014
#222
You can't "force recognition". In fact, forcing defensiveness is counterproductive. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#247
Holding a mirror in front of one's face will usually force recognition in those who care to see.
Gormy Cuss
May 2014
#294
that is exactly it, minimize, deny, cite sources they did not even understand.........
bettyellen
May 2014
#77
I don't see how dividing people by using offensive language can brings us together
KoKo
May 2014
#167
People of color and different genders have persecuted and been persecuted throughout history..
KoKo
May 2014
#176
Beg to differ...I never said anything that you said I was saying in my replies...
KoKo
May 2014
#230
White privilege is not about making anyone the enemy. I don't know where you get that idea.
kwassa
May 2014
#287
Why did you post the same reply twice, and what does President Obama have to do with this?
kwassa
May 2014
#288
"You hijack threads everytime and make it all about you." Not really accurate.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#138
In leftist academia, the idea of white privilege is a given. It is not up for debate...
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#53
"It is not up for debate... It's more like an undeniable consciousness."
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#244
Maybe he'll learn that he actually needs supporting evidence to back up his pet theories...
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#246
"But there are additional obstacles in the way of black people....." That's true.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#130
Uh-huh. Sure. "White privilege has ALWAYS meant literal privileges white people get"
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#175
"because you've pulled this whole thing out of your ass." Nah. Just observing something that has....
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#181
"In the same way that many bigots wish we'd call them something else." LOL, no.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#187
Yes, in the same way that 5 year olds don't dictate theories on linear algebra.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#191
You mean those of us who accept the reality of systemic disadvantages, but realize that.............
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#208
The untold number of educated persons who have travelled through academia...
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#218
Thanks for finally being the one to take the gloves off. This had to be done at some point. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#251
And why is this so important that you've filled up entire threads with it?
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#250
I think they just want you to stop insisting that your viewpoint is somehow more informed than
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#262
Nope. And TBH, I honestly would have felt quite insulted, had it come from certain other folks.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#165
I'd look in the mirror if I were you.....at least in regards to the latter.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#183
Almost everyone here agrees as to the concept and definition of privilege ...
1StrongBlackMan
May 2014
#196
"People have responded to you in good faith".....some have, and some haven't.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#273
You have spent six months arguing with black people about a term you don't like.
bravenak
May 2014
#282
I took offense at your comments, because you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
kwassa
May 2014
#290
this is old, but it's what got you bounced from Environment and Energy (note: I was not a host then)
CreekDog
May 2014
#278
You only think that because you're too caught up in your own arrogance to see otherwise. nt
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#266
Why oh why, does a person who knows so little about a subject, have to go around pontificating
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#227
"Denial of white privilege by privileged whites" If you knew me.....you wouldn't be saying that.
AverageJoe90
May 2014
#269