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In reply to the discussion: Porn. Rape? [View all]sheshe2
(83,986 posts)8. One chart from an entire article is very misleading at best.
Some types of rape are excluded from official reports altogether (the FBI's definition, for example, used to exclude all rapes except forcible rapes of females), because a significant number of rapes go unreported even when they are included as reportable rapes, and also because a significant number of rapes reported to the police do not advance to prosecution.[203] As well as the large number of rapes that go unreported, only 25% of reported rapes result in arrest. Many rape kits are not tested.[204] Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992 and United Nations Populations Fund, 2000a).[205][206] Factoring in unreported rapes, about 5% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.[207]
Contrary to widespread belief, rape outdoors is rare. Over two thirds of all rapes occur in someone's home. 31% occur in the perpetrators' homes, 27% in the victims' homes and 10% in homes shared by the victim and perpetrator. 7% occur at parties, 7% in vehicles, 4% outdoors and 2% in bars.[208] From 2000 to 2005, 59% of rapes were not reported to law enforcement.[209][210] One factor relating to this is the misconception that most rapes are committed by strangers.[209][211] In reality, studies indicate the following varying numbers:
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80,000 American children are sexually abused each year. But unreported cases are higher, due to the fear among children.[223]
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According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, the adjusted per-capita victimization rate of rape has declined from about 2.4 per 1000 people (age 12 and above) in 1980 to about 0.4 per 1000 people, a decline of about 85%.[226] But other government surveys, such as the Sexual Victimization of College Women study, critique the NCVS on the basis it includes only those acts perceived as crimes by the victim, and report a higher victimization rate.[227] Despite a decline of 60% since 1993, the US still has a relatively high rate of rape when compared to other developed countries.[228]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#United_States
Rape and sexual violence is not funny. The one chart you picked does not tell the story.
Contrary to widespread belief, rape outdoors is rare. Over two thirds of all rapes occur in someone's home. 31% occur in the perpetrators' homes, 27% in the victims' homes and 10% in homes shared by the victim and perpetrator. 7% occur at parties, 7% in vehicles, 4% outdoors and 2% in bars.[208] From 2000 to 2005, 59% of rapes were not reported to law enforcement.[209][210] One factor relating to this is the misconception that most rapes are committed by strangers.[209][211] In reality, studies indicate the following varying numbers:
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80,000 American children are sexually abused each year. But unreported cases are higher, due to the fear among children.[223]
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According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, the adjusted per-capita victimization rate of rape has declined from about 2.4 per 1000 people (age 12 and above) in 1980 to about 0.4 per 1000 people, a decline of about 85%.[226] But other government surveys, such as the Sexual Victimization of College Women study, critique the NCVS on the basis it includes only those acts perceived as crimes by the victim, and report a higher victimization rate.[227] Despite a decline of 60% since 1993, the US still has a relatively high rate of rape when compared to other developed countries.[228]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#United_States
Rape and sexual violence is not funny. The one chart you picked does not tell the story.
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if anything, stats on reporting should have gone up even if the actual number stayed the same
yurbud
May 2014
#12
neither of the charts account for recent increase in pirates off the African coast
maggiesfarmer
May 2014
#163
Maybe you should leave the stats explanations to people who know the first thing about statistics.
DanTex
May 2014
#58
Can you name a few instances with there's causation, but very strong observed anticorrelation?
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#65
You'd better tell the American Medical Association that they're wrong, and quick!
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#73
Sure, that's fine, but the increased mortality even shows up using BMI, evidently.
DanTex
May 2014
#93
The population-level correlation is actually very large. Did you look at those charts?
DanTex
May 2014
#114
Except he never claimed it was causing a decrease in rapes. Also you just used the P word wrong.
Kurska
May 2014
#95
Umm, measured correlations hardly ever come out to exactly 0, causation or not.
DanTex
May 2014
#125
You've had statistics courses? Hmm. I guess you didn't get far enough to cover "correlation".
DanTex
May 2014
#130
No it doesn't hinge on a "choice" of definition. It's *the* definition of correlation.
DanTex
May 2014
#128
A correlation is a precisely defined bivariate statistic, it's not some vague term.
DanTex
May 2014
#166
That's true, but does/did anyone really believe that porn is the primary cause of rape?
DanTex
May 2014
#153
There's no conclusive proof either way, there's basically 2 schools of thought...
Hippo_Tron
May 2014
#10
I was on the jury; here are the results: I hope whoever alerted will read these comments.
CaliforniaPeggy
May 2014
#14
I thought the comments weren't hateful, but rather more full of empathy for the alerter.
CaliforniaPeggy
May 2014
#31
When people want an example of how the alert system is used to try to silence opposing viewpoints,
hughee99
May 2014
#142
However, the incidents of eye-strain and heavy breathing have gone up.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2014
#18
There was a thread yesterday where porn was called out as a cause of sexual violence
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#157
And, instead of contributing your deep research to THAT thread, you decided to make one of your own!
MADem
May 2014
#170
I have no idea whether porn causes rape, but this doesn't prove or disprove anything.
DanTex
May 2014
#55
Porn watching might -- MIGHT -- lower rape, but I don't consider porn watchers feminists.
ancianita
May 2014
#111
What part of the male performer is worth 60% to 84% less than the female performer?
Orrex
May 2014
#162
Overall the violent stats are down by a similar amount, my guess is there is something bigger at
bettyellen
May 2014
#129
I get it. You are showing how politicians use statistics to back up their "personal" beliefs. nt.
NCTraveler
May 2014
#144