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Why Gun-Rights Backers Win While Other Conservative Causes Lose [View all] xchrom Apr 2014 OP

Old white men love a long hard rod. (See any ED commercial) nt onehandle Apr 2014 #1

You know, I have long thought that it is exactly this. It's power and Nay Apr 2014 #32

Men of all ages, and many women, too. Orsino Apr 2014 #35

Penis reference on the very first reply (with extra added race baiting!). /thread Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #42

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People get bitter, and cling to their guns. DanTex Apr 2014 #2

Constitution explains it yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #31

As Obama said in 2008, said so honestly right wingers trashed him for it! alp227 Apr 2014 #101

America stopped being "The Home of the Brave" quite some time ago Bandit Apr 2014 #3

This! AleksS Apr 2014 #114

+100 n/t billh58 May 2014 #159

Gun control support is a mile wide and an inch deep. badtoworse Apr 2014 #4

Well, yeah...you almost never see gun control advocates setting up checkpoints. (nt) stone space Apr 2014 #5

How is your post relevant to this discussion? badtoworse Apr 2014 #6

I was responding to this: stone space Apr 2014 #7

Where are gun rights backers setting up checkpoints? badtoworse Apr 2014 #10

Guess you haven't been reading the news. But here's another example of how far... stone space Apr 2014 #11

What gun rights group were they representing or were they just assholes who happened to be armed? badtoworse Apr 2014 #12

"Assholes who happened to be armed" stems directly from the gun rights movement. Paladin Apr 2014 #14

Nope. not wearing it. There are legitimate uses for firearms, but these are not on the list. badtoworse Apr 2014 #16

Gun rights activists and domestic terrorists. stone space Apr 2014 #96

Like I said, a group of armed assholes doesn't speak for the millions of legitimate gun owners badtoworse Apr 2014 #103

Responsibe gun owners no doubt would have wanted to see him arrested immediately and his guns... stone space Apr 2014 #109

I didn't see them acting in a threatening way or breaking any law badtoworse Apr 2014 #110

I think it would have made more sense to arrest him that day for his threatening behavoir... stone space Apr 2014 #121

What would you have charged him with? Acting like a jerk is not illegal. badtoworse May 2014 #130

Terrorism. Dude brought an AR-15 to a political event to threaten and intimidate people and... stone space May 2014 #133

We must have watched a different video. badtoworse May 2014 #136

The Neo-Nazi with the AR-15 slung over his shoulder was talking about Civil Rights. Yeah, right. stone space May 2014 #142

Low post count, "escaped with their lives" Packerowner740 May 2014 #134

I don't understand your point here. stone space May 2014 #143

Checkpoints? No. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #9

Well, boo-fucking-hoo. Paladin Apr 2014 #15

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Pretty feeble. Have a better response for the next mass shooting, OK? (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #18

Feel free to tell us how much you would oppose the police responding with guns drawn Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #28

Huh? Maybe you need a little break. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #30

And that break begins now. alp227 Apr 2014 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Apr 2014 #56

Like in PA Freddie Apr 2014 #13

I would still support Toomy/Manchin if it just came up for a vote derby378 Apr 2014 #20

I support expanded/universal b.g. tests. Why the opposition? Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #39

extreme fear-mongering works spanone Apr 2014 #8

All the responses in this thread about clinging, bitterness, milita membership, its a white issue... Mr_Rogers Apr 2014 #19

They have dominated the gun issue for around 40 years derby378 Apr 2014 #21

I'd agree with that... Mr_Rogers Apr 2014 #22

There is also the overriding obsession... derby378 Apr 2014 #25

The political leadership knows... Mr_Rogers Apr 2014 #26

"Demographically unique" "other baggage" like what? alp227 Apr 2014 #75

When I read that I thought of Bloomberg. NutmegYankee Apr 2014 #78

Good example... Mr_Rogers Apr 2014 #86

Rogers, I still wonder what you meant by "demographically unique". alp227 Apr 2014 #104

Unfortunately, Mr. Rogers billh58 May 2014 #162

"the NRA has been allowed to devolve into a purely political machine under teahadist influence." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #44

Short, accurate & concise. Thanks. nt Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #33

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Fortunately, most people have something different in mind when turning the country blue. Hoyt Apr 2014 #38

Fortunately, most courts and legislatures recognize the Constitutional right to be armed. Jgarrick Apr 2014 #46

"Forces of Freedom." Sounds so tbaggerish to me. Hoyt Apr 2014 #48

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And the forces of the NRA supporters such as you have lost, billh58 May 2014 #148

+1. Hoyt May 2014 #149

NOT, EVEN, CLOSE SQUEE May 2014 #150

Dream on billh58 May 2014 #151

... well thought out and appropriate. SQUEE May 2014 #152

Again, you are free billh58 May 2014 #153

If we are gonna be bigoted, please call me SQUEE May 2014 #164

Nice NRA-apologist billh58 May 2014 #167

good luck, if all you offer to your "movement" is ignorance and name calling, you'll need it. SQUEE May 2014 #169

It is not billh58 May 2014 #170

words.. SQUEE May 2014 #171

Sounds like gun restrictions would put you out of the gun profiteering business. Not surprised. Hoyt May 2014 #160

.. pro bono work Hoyt. SQUEE May 2014 #163

Gun promotion, just the same. Hoyt May 2014 #165

Yup, unapologetic, and honest SQUEE May 2014 #166

except... pipoman Apr 2014 #24

& the answers are: *CLOAKING* gunnuttery in "populism," "empowerment," & "non-racial" - plus, UTUSN Apr 2014 #27

Inconvenient truths for billh58 May 2014 #154

Same reason pro-choice wins out over anti-choice in the dem party The Straight Story Apr 2014 #29

"Less than one percent of gun owners are harming anyone with guns." mac56 Apr 2014 #34

About the same The Straight Story Apr 2014 #36

When the pro control advocates Riftaxe Apr 2014 #47

Wow that's a new meme isn't it? upaloopa Apr 2014 #53

I do believe it is just an observation Riftaxe Apr 2014 #57

Take it any way you want upaloopa Apr 2014 #59

I have no idea what you're talking about. mac56 Apr 2014 #54

Thank you for the laugh etherealtruth Apr 2014 #97

Not a shot was fired at the Bundy ranch, but our country was harmed by the armed gun fanciers Hoyt Apr 2014 #40

oh, how else shall we expand it The Straight Story Apr 2014 #41

Was it more harm then when the other Riftaxe Apr 2014 #50

Difficult to respond to gibberish. But, I'm talking about the right wing gun yahoos who showed up. Hoyt Apr 2014 #51

Can we agree armed robery should also be listed SQUEE Apr 2014 #52

So stats matter more than saving lives? Sheesh. alp227 Apr 2014 #106

*facepalm* The Straight Story Apr 2014 #108

Yes, we get it, guns matter more than human life. Facepalm indeed. DanTex Apr 2014 #117

You can't look at different types of things in the same consistent lens. alp227 May 2014 #124

Party lines are blurred when it comes to gun control issues oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #37

But, she gets re-elected. So I assume her non-right wing constituency supports her. Hoyt Apr 2014 #58

I wouldn't call Democrats who are gun owners right wing and you have to admit oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #60

Sometimes, you just gotta do what is right, not what is popular among yahoos. Hoyt Apr 2014 #61

What our party needs is a leading Democrat that can resonate with the majority of gun owners oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #65

Yeah, let's get one of these guys to run. Hoyt Apr 2014 #69

...and you wonder why the dialogue never goes anywhere. badtoworse Apr 2014 #72

I know exactly why dialog goes nowhere -- gun fanciers can't imagine life without access to Hoyt Apr 2014 #73

You're proving my point. You might get seven states to go along with Australia's approach. badtoworse Apr 2014 #79

Better approach is one more rational Justice, and get rid of bigoted right wingers Hoyt Apr 2014 #81

Don't hold your breath. If anything, the trend is in the other direction. badtoworse Apr 2014 #82

I think the 4 Justice Dissent in Heller indicates otherwise. Hoyt Apr 2014 #88

There is no legal impediment to passing strict gun control hack89 Apr 2014 #99

What we need is someone who's willing to deal. badtoworse Apr 2014 #70

Yeah, the Molon Labe crowd proves that. Hoyt Apr 2014 #100

Folks like you keep the NRA in business. badtoworse Apr 2014 #105

Nope, yahoos into gunz and manufacturers, keep them in business. Leadership is who's who Hoyt Apr 2014 #120

But people like you ensure that reasonable compromise is impossible hack89 May 2014 #131

When gun owners hear people blathering about taking their guns, they send more checks to the NRA. badtoworse May 2014 #132

Then, they aren't Democrats and will only vote for white/right wingers because Hoyt May 2014 #135

Do you seriously believe a state like Michigan would stay blue if politicians there talked like you? badtoworse May 2014 #137

I'm not running for anything. I just do not believe your fellow Michigan gun fanciers like this Hoyt May 2014 #138

They're not the ones I'd worry about. badtoworse May 2014 #139

They are the majority of gun fanciers and nuts. Hoyt May 2014 #140

In the first category, but ridiculous gun laws impact all gun owners badtoworse May 2014 #141

Be careful. No drinking or horsing around. Hoyt May 2014 #144

Not really. There are very few NRA-style gun fanatics that are actually Democrats. DanTex Apr 2014 #116

And that's putting it billh58 May 2014 #155

I used to live in Texas (hence my screen name). DanTex May 2014 #157

Most (almost all) billh58 May 2014 #158

I know a guy in upstate NY who owned a gun that was made illegal by the SAFE act. DanTex May 2014 #161

Frum cites 10-yr-old Gallup data. More recent findings Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #43

Civil liberties can freak some people out. aikoaiko Apr 2014 #55

Given how rhetorically nasty anti-gun people can be... MicaelS Apr 2014 #62

That is arguing on a purely emotional plane and poorly even by that standard. badtoworse Apr 2014 #63

I think that is good. When guns become like cigarettes, swastikas and incest, so much the better. Hoyt Apr 2014 #64

Actually, I think the opposite reaction is more likely. badtoworse Apr 2014 #66

That kind of attitude/anger does not mix well with guns. Hoyt Apr 2014 #67

What sort of a response do you usually get to insults? badtoworse Apr 2014 #71

"That's why your [gun owners] have to behave better, they gotta act nicer, they gotta try harder..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #80

you do realize your constant belittling approach to people isn't winning anyone to your cause,right? dionysus Apr 2014 #74

If I tickled gun fanciers with a feather, it wouldn't change their obsession with gunz. Hoyt Apr 2014 #77

i don't think you have to worry anyone on DU shooting up anything, seriously... nt. dionysus Apr 2014 #83

I don't know, some of the discussions in Gungeon are concerning. I remember one Hoyt Apr 2014 #85

If folks in the gungeon said worse things to you, why are you one of only two people banned there? Lasher Apr 2014 #111

Maybe he was banned for sounding like a broken record. badtoworse Apr 2014 #112

You have to repeat things over and over to get through to those with gunz strapped to their body. Hoyt Apr 2014 #119

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No such lofty aspirations. Simply cannot resist responding to Hoyt May 2014 #128

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The gungeon is for gun fanciers. You know, to discuss shooting people efficiently, Hoyt Apr 2014 #118

I get it now, it's like protective custody to protect you from those unprovoked personal attacks. Lasher May 2014 #125

so is your goal (on DU) to bring people over to your side, or just snark it out with gun folks™? dionysus Apr 2014 #84

Nope, I'm here to convince women to shun gun fanciers. I believe it is Hoyt Apr 2014 #87

Pro Tip™: using belittling remarks in every post isn't clever, and it won't convince anyone to join dionysus Apr 2014 #89

Don't expect inveterate gun fanciers to change. Hoyt Apr 2014 #90

guns aren't important to me. near the bottom of the list. dionysus Apr 2014 #91

Why would any women take your posts seriously? hack89 Apr 2014 #93

Oh Hack, you take stuff too seriously.. Doesn't mix well with gunz. Hoyt Apr 2014 #98

Hard to take "gunz" seriously hack89 Apr 2014 #102

No way you're real oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #113

I agree sweetapogee May 2014 #145

You think appealing to their concern for society or innocent kids works? Hoyt May 2014 #147

how do you know? sweetapogee May 2014 #156

+100 billh58 May 2014 #168

Hoyt's tongue is firmly planted in his cheek hack89 Apr 2014 #92

but it gets stale after a while, the same lines over and overand over and 10 million times... nt dionysus Apr 2014 #94

I have always wondered what side he is actually on hack89 Apr 2014 #95

I think I've figured it out oneofthe99 May 2014 #123

what Zimmerman does is A-OK Skittles Apr 2014 #68

Guns are toys for childish men randys1 Apr 2014 #76

insecure racists are still a large voting block. mwrguy Apr 2014 #115

It's not the NRA. It's the people of the US. Look at CO. Skip Intro Apr 2014 #122

It's an inefficient eugenics program Turbineguy May 2014 #126

Call me a pessimist, but a lot of conservative causes seem to be winning YoungDemCA May 2014 #146