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In reply to the discussion: Snowden's question and op-ed were attempts to whitewash Russian spying by equating it to the NSA. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)53. Sure I can, but you're the one who said you'd smear someone if you were paid.
Unlike you, I would never smear someone for money.
I criticize Snowden because he deserves it. He should be held accountable.
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BLITZER: What about Snowden? Do you think that he committed a crime or he was simply a well-intentioned whistle-blower?
SANDERS: Well, I think what you have to look at is -- I think there is no question that he committed a crime, obviously. He violated his oath and he leaked information.
On the other hand, what you have to weigh that against is the fact that he has gone a very long way in educating the people of our country and the people of the world about the power of private agency in terms of their surveillance over people of this country, over foreign leaders, and what they are doing.
So, I think you got to weigh the two. My own belief is that I think, I would hope that the United States government could kind of negotiate some plea bargain with him, some form of clemency. I think it wouldn't be a good idea or fair to him to have to spend his entire remaining life abroad, not being able to come back to his country.
So I would hope that there's a price that he has to pay, but I hope it is not a long prison sentence or exile from his country.
BLITZER: You wouldn't give him clemency, though, and let him off scot-free?
SANDERS: No. BLITZER: All right, Senator, thanks very much for joining us.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1401/06/sitroom.02.html
BLITZER: What about Snowden? Do you think that he committed a crime or he was simply a well-intentioned whistle-blower?
SANDERS: Well, I think what you have to look at is -- I think there is no question that he committed a crime, obviously. He violated his oath and he leaked information.
On the other hand, what you have to weigh that against is the fact that he has gone a very long way in educating the people of our country and the people of the world about the power of private agency in terms of their surveillance over people of this country, over foreign leaders, and what they are doing.
So, I think you got to weigh the two. My own belief is that I think, I would hope that the United States government could kind of negotiate some plea bargain with him, some form of clemency. I think it wouldn't be a good idea or fair to him to have to spend his entire remaining life abroad, not being able to come back to his country.
So I would hope that there's a price that he has to pay, but I hope it is not a long prison sentence or exile from his country.
BLITZER: You wouldn't give him clemency, though, and let him off scot-free?
SANDERS: No. BLITZER: All right, Senator, thanks very much for joining us.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1401/06/sitroom.02.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024292659
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Snowden's question and op-ed were attempts to whitewash Russian spying by equating it to the NSA. [View all]
ProSense
Apr 2014
OP
Did anyone believe Putin? Or, Obama when they both said that there was no surveillance?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2014
#5
But "Putin and Obama" aren't in this thread trying to deflect from the OP point. n/t
ProSense
Apr 2014
#15
As compared to those here attempting to whitewash NSA spying. Got it, thanks. nt
Electric Monk
Apr 2014
#28
The smearing of Greenwald/Snowden are attempts to whitewash Obama's spying.
DesMoinesDem
Apr 2014
#29
Your comment makes NoSense. You're trying to change the subject of my post.
DesMoinesDem
Apr 2014
#40
Is that principled? Would someone have to pay you to smear someone everyday
DesMoinesDem
Apr 2014
#48
You sure dont have good reading comprehension. Its your life that brings a tear to my eye.
DesMoinesDem
Apr 2014
#64
What's he's "sad" about is your exposing eddie as putin's tool which many knew all along.
Cha
Apr 2014
#71
Even if it is EXACTLY as Snowden claims, it's still terrible optics and horrible decision-making
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2014
#52
I think he's enjoying the fame of all of this too much. I think that's what's driving all of this
Number23
Apr 2014
#54
He may have done some good, but something about him creeps me out. Don't know why.
catbyte
Apr 2014
#75
Dragnet-style mass surveillance should only be carried out by a *FREE* country, Mr. Putin!!!111!!1!!
Romulox
Apr 2014
#82
"Mr. Putin," bravo for eavesdropping on Russians and calling out a "*FREE*country"!!!!
ProSense
Apr 2014
#83
I know--it's so 20th Century. Meanwhile, the Obama admin has your instagram pix!
Romulox
Apr 2014
#84
What do people trying to deflect from US dragnet-style spying on the US population do?
Romulox
Apr 2014
#86
"Dragnet-style mass surveillance should only be carried out by a *FREE* country, Mr. Putin!!!111!!1!
ProSense
Apr 2014
#91
Who cares about what Putin does? I am only interested in what our govt does when it's spying on us.
Katashi_itto
Apr 2014
#94