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UglyGreed

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82. I understand

Reply to polichick (Reply #79)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:22 PM

Apr 2014

As long as there is a spark............

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What will the "revolution" look like when people have had enough? [View all] polichick Apr 2014 OP

If you are over 40, it's not happening in our lifetime 1000words Apr 2014 #1

A few years ago, I would've agreed with you. Marr Apr 2014 #13

"It'll be over before the the powers that be have decided on their talking points." polichick Apr 2014 #17

If people are smart it won't involve social media TBF Apr 2014 #142

I'm not convinced the "revolution" will involve a physical crowd... polichick Apr 2014 #144

Right - not that it wouldn't involve technology TBF Apr 2014 #152

"Anonymous has been successful"... polichick Apr 2014 #153

Ever study American history? BainsBane Apr 2014 #34

I have, actually. Marr Apr 2014 #43

That is because we had a strong socialist presence TBF Apr 2014 #154

I could see it, if the "revolution" is a global one. 1000words Apr 2014 #44

"the biggest legacy of Occupy: an emerging technically-savvy global resistance." polichick Apr 2014 #64

I see it as a continuation of the "unfinished acheivements and ideals" of the 60's & 70's KoKo Apr 2014 #193

Yeah, "unfinished" is a good way to put it... polichick Apr 2014 #198

I tend to agree their press is not as corrupted as the US Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #121

I see it as Global, also. Already the austerity imposed by IMF is affecting KoKo Apr 2014 #194

Unfortunately, since there is no mass, organized working-class political movement in the US... YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #2

I imagine something like the riots during the sixties and early seventies. upaloopa Apr 2014 #3

Or maybe the suburbs. RoverSuswade Apr 2014 #6

'set the nation back on course' - what course? leftstreet Apr 2014 #4

Good point. Maybe we could at least live up to our Constitution. polichick Apr 2014 #8

You forgot the "Who cares? Dancing With the Stars is on." option. Glassunion Apr 2014 #5

That one might fit under #6. Brigid Apr 2014 #84

I'm afraid that at this point - a right-wing revolution is more probable than a left-wing revolution Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #7

"Viva la revolution! Dance! Dance, you fools!" randome Apr 2014 #9

It would look a lot like the Tea Party as far as sufrommich Apr 2014 #10

I agree theboss Apr 2014 #18

People will just watch more TV mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #11

Until the power is cut? Until someone (burglars?) come for the TV? polichick Apr 2014 #19

Max Headroom CrispyQ Apr 2014 #40

Yup, that's about right mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #41

Never saw this but what an idea! polichick Apr 2014 #54

Yeah. The main character, Edison Carter, frequently throws a blanket over his. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #76

I loved Max Headroom. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #61

While Occupy is the obvious answer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #12

Glad you mentioned "forty years ago" - I have always felt that... polichick Apr 2014 #20

You and I my friend share something with people like Waterman (H2O) nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #24

For What It's Worth... polichick Apr 2014 #29

LOL llmart Apr 2014 #169

The best ever! :) polichick Apr 2014 #176

Yes, it was a déjà vu! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #109

Have you seen the photos of all the Demonstrations in the past years... KoKo Apr 2014 #199

Totally with you on this... polichick Apr 2014 #202

Doing genealogy I remember reading about the Bacon revolution and thinking we needed someone jwirr Apr 2014 #49

Things are building, and there is a feeling of both nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #55

People will be held to inaction. Xyzse Apr 2014 #14

illustrated n2doc Apr 2014 #15

Perfect! 1000words Apr 2014 #42

Too true, unfortunately. Raksha Apr 2014 #53

Perfect illustration nt abelenkpe Apr 2014 #70

I'm 90 percent certain that if there is ever a violent revolution, it will come from the right theboss Apr 2014 #16

Interesting results so far, but B2G Apr 2014 #21

Misplaced anger I guess - manipulated into going after scapegoats? polichick Apr 2014 #22

Well, A) no one is going to attack theboss Apr 2014 #23

If they see their position threatened, they'll react violently (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #27

The vast majority of the right AREN'T doing the plundering. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #57

Same reason they did it in Spain, Italy, Germany... Ikonoklast Apr 2014 #94

Come the Revolution, MineralMan Apr 2014 #25

And it's...it's so...beautiful! randome Apr 2014 #106

Some of this....Some of that Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #26

Not happening Calista241 Apr 2014 #28

The military could have a big say. moondust Apr 2014 #30

The U.S. military is not like that of other, small countries. Nor is it of one mind. randome Apr 2014 #33

that rings true to me marions ghost Apr 2014 #39

That's why I say: Screw the revolution! Let's dance! randome Apr 2014 #60

Not a great response marions ghost Apr 2014 #63

The Republicans are the iceberg approaching America. randome Apr 2014 #86

Being a student of history... Javaman Apr 2014 #31

"I most fear the post-rev years" - me too... polichick Apr 2014 #36

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #115

Despite what we do pipi_k Apr 2014 #32

Seems like we're talking about two concepts of revolution marions ghost Apr 2014 #35

True - two very different approaches/concepts... polichick Apr 2014 #38

Exactly! "The middle & lower class Left and Right--have a lot more in common with RKP5637 Apr 2014 #110

The Division Machinery marions ghost Apr 2014 #125

A combo of these two options. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #37

"TPTB will laugh at the teabaggers as they take their anger & frustrations... polichick Apr 2014 #48

We will continue to decline in power and go broke trying to retain it. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #45

Yes, there is a lot to be said for this! We continue to stretch this nation financially, RKP5637 Apr 2014 #113

TPTB really, truly, don't want us to believe that vital change is coming, or even possible. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #46

I like your optimism marions ghost Apr 2014 #66

Thanks. I don't take anything for granted, either. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #90

Most rigid political power trips fail marions ghost Apr 2014 #93

Other: there will be no revolution, and life will go on. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #47

^^winner^^ Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #135

None of the above MO_Moderate Apr 2014 #50

It will not be till there is a food shortage that there will be a revolution. dilby Apr 2014 #51

And mass migrations due to the food shortage! polichick Apr 2014 #52

ding, ding, ding, ding, part of the answer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #58

If food gets much more expensive there is going to be a food shortage in this RKP5637 Apr 2014 #114

People will stop participating in our corrupt economy, build lives outside it Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #56

"build lives outside it" - I see this beginning to happen... polichick Apr 2014 #59

How is it even possible.... PopeOxycontinI Apr 2014 #120

A couple of things I've seen with twentysomethings I know: polichick Apr 2014 #131

investment in art is largely a wealthy person thing, and young people have always built support JI7 Apr 2014 #165

Investing in art is a good idea for anyone... polichick Apr 2014 #170

as i said, art investment is for the wealthy classes JI7 Apr 2014 #172

WE did that TOO..in early 70's ...(craft groups..not buying Crap..giving our kids REAL Imaginative KoKo Apr 2014 #203

Me too Caretha Apr 2014 #137

This is really interesting - and cool that they are teaching others... polichick Apr 2014 #155

If that happens on a large scale marions ghost Apr 2014 #62

We are in a revolution UglyGreed Apr 2014 #65

But isn't that right-wing "revolution" a reaction to the beginnings... polichick Apr 2014 #67

Yes!!! UglyGreed Apr 2014 #73

Oh and UglyGreed Apr 2014 #75

I'm trying to hold onto a bit of hope. polichick Apr 2014 #79

I understand UglyGreed Apr 2014 #82

So I marions ghost Apr 2014 #74

I used UglyGreed Apr 2014 #81

OK I get that marions ghost Apr 2014 #88

there isn't going to be any reovlution, even the people who talk about it only go so far as internet JI7 Apr 2014 #68

Occupy Wall Street is more. The militias training... polichick Apr 2014 #71

no, none of those things have resulted in a revolution JI7 Apr 2014 #72

I meant more than an internet thing, as you suggested. polichick Apr 2014 #77

yes,but those are not cases of revolutions happening JI7 Apr 2014 #78

Not really, most people are going to work every day, playing with their kids snooper2 Apr 2014 #141

Most people are working more for less... polichick Apr 2014 #146

LOL. Revolution? In the age of Instagram, Flappy Bird, Candy Crush, and selfies? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #69

Not in the traditional sense, no. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #98

You got that right Nye Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #136

Francis will Lead the REVOLUTION! YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS COMING! snooper2 Apr 2014 #143

WOW. I retract my previous statement. Sign me up! (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #145

Unfortunately, the folks with the wrong view might come out on top. Hoyt Apr 2014 #80

They will certainly try, anyhow. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #102

I rather reluctantly chose #6. Brigid Apr 2014 #83

90% voter turnout with left leaners voting 100% Dem. gulliver Apr 2014 #85

There is already a revolution BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #87

I don't doubt it marions ghost Apr 2014 #89

Well not Hoppe's ideology specifically BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #95

Well, more like a faux "revolution". AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #92

Are you sure? BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #96

"The myth of historical progression makes us feel good, but it is still a myth." Not at all. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #97

Minor social issues in the grand scheme of things BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #99

Again, I understand that things may temporarily seem hopeless. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #100

Like I said: let's dance. randome Apr 2014 #104

Great pic! polichick Apr 2014 #105

What would your participation be in MineralMan Apr 2014 #91

I am curious as to why you asked that question. Bonobo Apr 2014 #191

Curiosity led to my asking that question. MineralMan Apr 2014 #192

I have NO idea why some people glorify this "revolution" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #101

Talking about possibilities = "glorifying" to you? polichick Apr 2014 #103

talking about spilling blood is not a part of your "fantasy" revolution? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #129

lol - I don't have a fantasy revolution. Something's going to happen... polichick Apr 2014 #132

OH YES you do... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #139

+1 treestar Apr 2014 #124

Revolutions don't need to be bloody at all marions ghost Apr 2014 #126

but they MOSTLY ARE bloody.....check your history! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #140

I'm talking about non-violent revolution marions ghost Apr 2014 #156

then you are fantasizing..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #159

I think marions ghost Apr 2014 #161

I think no matter WHAT THEY DO....if WE Vote WE WIN! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #166

And if we win, do we fix what they did? marions ghost Apr 2014 #177

Do you suggest we don't? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #179

We have lost ground marions ghost Apr 2014 #183

Not according to Bernie Sanders we haven't VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #184

Some progress is certainly better than none marions ghost Apr 2014 #185

We have one advantage on our side...shear numbers.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #186

Yes --that is our strength marions ghost Apr 2014 #187

We just need to stop beating our own candidates to a pulp..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #188

Lo info voters marions ghost Apr 2014 #189

No...they are the mushy middle...they don't pay attention until the end and they are VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #190

With the build up of DHS, the militarization of local police, the cross RKP5637 Apr 2014 #107

Good point about the technology "doers" - that's the critical piece, the part... polichick Apr 2014 #134

We need to go around a number of these traditional institutions. They are in RKP5637 Apr 2014 #148

"There needs to be a movement to connect people together... polichick Apr 2014 #150

You mean those Libertarian "tech types" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #178

One thing I know is that it's now inevitable. Warpy Apr 2014 #108

Key words IMO. "The rage is just under the surface." I can feel it too, for RKP5637 Apr 2014 #116

yeah, people are tired of it... PopeOxycontinI Apr 2014 #119

So what positive suggestions do you give them? marions ghost Apr 2014 #130

^^^^^ good points marions ghost Apr 2014 #128

"I can feel it." Me too. polichick Apr 2014 #133

There was a storyline on the cable show "Supernatural" Ilsa Apr 2014 #111

I'm thinking that "revolution" might've already happened. polichick Apr 2014 #112

I keep getting mental images of... 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #117

A slow revolution has be percolating through our system for some time... Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #118

There is already a revolution happening in money Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #122

The country would likely split up before any violent revolution. CFLDem Apr 2014 #123

The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Apr 2014 #127

In case you haven't noticed the water is rising mikehiggins Apr 2014 #138

Climate change may be the alien invasion we've been waiting for. randome Apr 2014 #147

True - as people are hit with the reality of climate change... polichick Apr 2014 #149

Disruption of the supply chain RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #151

nothing will happen until the rank and file teabaggers realize they've been had. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #157

People Power marions ghost Apr 2014 #158

How would I know? KamaAina Apr 2014 #160

so it looks like you need something horrible to happen for their to be a revolution JI7 Apr 2014 #162

Dennis Kucinich is working at Fox News JI7 Apr 2014 #163

Bookmarking, it is stunning, the power of fear. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #164

No kidding - some people are too fearful to... polichick Apr 2014 #175

My jaw dropped at where the majority fell in your poll...powerful.n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #182

It really is interesting - I didn't expect those poll results... polichick Apr 2014 #195

I suspect not all, but my reaction was that seems where these feelings of dread stem from. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #196

Thanks for your input. imo people are seeing how deeply entrenched... polichick Apr 2014 #197

Overwhelmed, yes and agreed, many don't see it yet..which is understandable. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #200

I think the result would have been diff. even 6 yrs ago. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #207

I am a writer. I've spent some time considering this very question Savannahmann Apr 2014 #167

That's not marions ghost Apr 2014 #171

Great example of the way it could go... polichick Apr 2014 #174

That is the gruesome scenario that some of the Middle Eastern Countries are living through. KoKo Apr 2014 #206

This thread is revealing about the deeply held institutional conservatism... YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #168

The Y2K Selection was the tipping point IMO lpbk2713 Apr 2014 #173

Most people will go on believing (with varying degrees of hope and despair) that no revolution winter is coming Apr 2014 #180

look at Syria nt Deep13 Apr 2014 #181

More and more leftist 3rd partiers will get elected. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #201

Liberal Dems are the only ones standing in the way of the TPP... polichick Apr 2014 #208

It will happen in Vermont on a Wednesday. RagAss Apr 2014 #204

The only thing I see coming of an Occupy... Rod Beauvex Apr 2014 #205

Bravo, Polichick. A poll of our Creature from the Id. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #209

Thank you. 'Course I post here hoping that the needed "populist uprising"... polichick Apr 2014 #210

A year later, we're beginning to see what the "revolution" will look like... polichick May 2015 #211

Kick L0oniX May 2015 #212

Thank-you! :) polichick May 2015 #213