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Showing Original Post only (View all)I haven't seen any actual Obamabots here. [View all]
The spectrum seems to run from Obama is a "good president" or even "great president" to "fuck you Obama you piece of shit". Conspicuously absent is any talk of Obama being "the saviour" or "the One" or any over-the-top rhetoric comparable to calling him a piece of shit.
Could it be more obvious which side is off the deep end?
BTW. My opinion is that Obama is a pretty good president. I don't think he's great, but I can see the argument, after all he did prevent a second great depression, passed the most significant safety net legislation since LBJ, and saved the auto industry, for starters.
Sometimes I wonder how badly Abraham Lincoln would have been savaged by the anti-Obama crowd here:
I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone.
Wow! Talk about a "third-way"!
Or how about FDR:
Whereas the successful prosecution of the war requires every possible protection against espionage and against sabotage to national-defense material, national-defense premises, and national-defense utilities as defined in Section 4, Act of April 20, 1918, 40 Stat. 533, as amended by the Act of November 30, 1940, 54 Stat. 1220, and the Act of August 21, 1941, 55 Stat. 655 (U.S.C., Title 50, Sec. 104);
Now, therefore, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United States, and Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, I hereby authorize and direct the Secretary of War, and the Military Commanders whom he may from time to time designate, whenever he or any designated Commander deems such action necessary or desirable, to prescribe military areas in such places and of such extent as he or the appropriate Military Commander may determine, from which any or all persons may be excluded, and with respect to which, the right of any person to enter, remain in, or leave shall be subject to whatever restrictions the Secretary of War or the appropriate Military Commander may impose in his discretion. The Secretary of War is hereby authorized to provide for residents of any such area who are excluded therefrom, such transportation, food, shelter, and other accommodations as may be necessary, in the judgment of the Secretary of War or the said Military Commander, and until other arrangements are made, to accomplish the purpose of this order. The designation of military areas in any region or locality shall supersede designations of prohibited and restricted areas by the Attorney General under the Proclamations of December 7 and 8, 1941, and shall supersede the responsibility and authority of the Attorney General under the said Proclamations in respect of such prohibited and restricted areas.
I hereby further authorize and direct the Secretary of War and the said Military Commanders to take such other steps as he or the appropriate Military Commander may deem advisable to enforce compliance with the restrictions applicable to each Military area hereinabove authorized to be designated, including the use of Federal troops and other Federal Agencies, with authority to accept assistance of state and local agencies.
Now, therefore, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United States, and Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, I hereby authorize and direct the Secretary of War, and the Military Commanders whom he may from time to time designate, whenever he or any designated Commander deems such action necessary or desirable, to prescribe military areas in such places and of such extent as he or the appropriate Military Commander may determine, from which any or all persons may be excluded, and with respect to which, the right of any person to enter, remain in, or leave shall be subject to whatever restrictions the Secretary of War or the appropriate Military Commander may impose in his discretion. The Secretary of War is hereby authorized to provide for residents of any such area who are excluded therefrom, such transportation, food, shelter, and other accommodations as may be necessary, in the judgment of the Secretary of War or the said Military Commander, and until other arrangements are made, to accomplish the purpose of this order. The designation of military areas in any region or locality shall supersede designations of prohibited and restricted areas by the Attorney General under the Proclamations of December 7 and 8, 1941, and shall supersede the responsibility and authority of the Attorney General under the said Proclamations in respect of such prohibited and restricted areas.
I hereby further authorize and direct the Secretary of War and the said Military Commanders to take such other steps as he or the appropriate Military Commander may deem advisable to enforce compliance with the restrictions applicable to each Military area hereinabove authorized to be designated, including the use of Federal troops and other Federal Agencies, with authority to accept assistance of state and local agencies.
Wow! And here I was worrying about the NSA and Gitmo!
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Of course alleged allies have always been treated more harshly than real opponents.
A Simple Game
Mar 2014
#69
Betrayal has always been treated more harshly than opposition by everyone.
A Simple Game
Mar 2014
#287
I don't blame that OP for being upset. But among the recs were posters who consistently
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#52
So a rec of support for a DUer with an ailing wife is subject to Meta style
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#106
Hard to follow what this is and is not 'about' considering the passive aggressive
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#114
and it was explained thoroughly how the problem had nothing to do with PBO
BlancheSplanchnik
Mar 2014
#92
Totally, plus we try and make sure everyone knows about the latest GOP criminal activity.
Rex
Mar 2014
#157
I adore and worship Obama. Some people adore and worship Will Pitt. I'd like to hear Pitts
lumpy
Mar 2014
#272
No they aren't. Sorry, strange grammatical revisionism isn't going to get you guys out of this one.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#145
Plus the 100 people who recced it. And the people deluded enough to think that Obama
DanTex
Mar 2014
#193
Reccing "FU Obama you piece of shit used car salesman" is being anti-Obama, yes.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#248
Actual quote: "Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman."
OnyxCollie
Mar 2014
#195
Yes, I replaced "Mr President" with "Obama". I recommend you make a big fuss about it.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#208
Yes. I also left out other parts of the OP. You should make a big fuss about that also.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#213
EarlG's reply there was not the last time he had to defend 'furriners' at DU:
freshwest
Mar 2014
#312
NO. I linked the SINGLE POST from the THREAD he linked, which I printed here. Bye. n/t
freshwest
Mar 2014
#327
I am reading this thread and wheezing with laughter at those breaking into a sweat pretending
Number23
Mar 2014
#280
In your opinion, our Democratic elected officials are acting in accord with right wing agendas.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#269
Thanks for your post and for being a 'critical thinker'. Your quotes show how times and thinking
lumpy
Mar 2014
#10
This isn't about one person. 100+ people recced "fuck you Obama you piece of shit".
DanTex
Mar 2014
#35
That's not what he said. You lose all credibilty for continuously posting false quotes.
cui bono
Mar 2014
#189
Actual quote: "Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman."
OnyxCollie
Mar 2014
#199
There are some people here who've been angry with Obama ever since he won election.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#57
Well when one of a Dem president's first actions is to firmy install Wall Street
cui bono
Mar 2014
#191
Thanks for so effectively proving my point. Anti-Obama sentiment here is real and longstanding.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#244
Can't you be more specific about the corporate 'bs' Clinton will use to move us to the right or
lumpy
Mar 2014
#276
No, I don't think the post is flame bait. I think it's a even-handed attempt to discuss a problem.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#48
"Obamabot" implies the person is robotic, brainless and automatic, which is slur.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#241
Because none of the people here who are accused of being Obamabots fit your description.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#304
You are making flame bait out of the truth. Do you have anything to say that is of any value?
lumpy
Mar 2014
#19
you're seeing what you want to see. there are people here who worship and adore this president
cali
Mar 2014
#15
I see demonstrably unsupportable sophistry, contradictions and fallacies here all the time.
Hissyspit
Mar 2014
#38
How clever is it to repost enough of the quote and causing people to post the correct quote
cui bono
Mar 2014
#212
Yes, I replaced "Mr President" with "Obama". You're not the first person to get outraged about that
DanTex
Mar 2014
#214
That's where you think the error is? The real error has been pointed out in this thread already
cui bono
Mar 2014
#216
I gave you a link twice. This post of yours is yet another example of your disingenuous nature.
cui bono
Mar 2014
#236
You linked to BOG, not a post. That is equivalent to linking to DU and saying "it's in there"!
DanTex
Mar 2014
#246
The BOG doesn't not allow the least bit of criticism of Obama in there and discriminates
cui bono
Mar 2014
#285
Yes, that would be relevant if I had fabricated a quote. Fortunately, I didn't.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#224
Based on the absurd lengths you will go to defend that quote, it's the only explanation.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#228
You know I was referring to the BOG itself. That whole group is just a lovefest.
cui bono
Mar 2014
#378
Ridiculous. Time to use a little reason. What is your reason for continuing this smut?
lumpy
Mar 2014
#30
I was responding to Cali's senseless smutty post and now I'm responding to yours.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#254
All I know is that some people love stirring the pot without reason by claiming that people here
lumpy
Mar 2014
#267
I don't get the impression he "knows the whole scene down there in DC" at all.
WorseBeforeBetter
Mar 2014
#298
K & R. Especially hilarious are the stalwart 4th Amendment defenders who are FDR Democrats!
FSogol
Mar 2014
#25
You think Obama has just been pretty good, not great, and then use Lincoln and FDR as examples, two
quinnox
Mar 2014
#44
Ok, but trying to impose modern understanding and standards on these past presidents is kind of
quinnox
Mar 2014
#54
Umm, there were plenty of people at the time that saw that these two things were wrong.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#60
Well, I think Obama has been fairly mediocre as a president. And it has nothing to do with him not
quinnox
Mar 2014
#63
As I said, whatever - no "problem" but don't claim there are no "Obamabots" here.
polichick
Mar 2014
#62
The difference being that "Obama is a piece of shit" was actually posted and highly recced
DanTex
Mar 2014
#90
You need to master quotations before skipping to the next chapter. Baby steps. You'll get there!
DanTex
Mar 2014
#136
Actual quote: "Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman."
OnyxCollie
Mar 2014
#166
Oh yeah, the ol corporate mediawhores' stand by.. "both sides do".. just ain't happening.
Cha
Mar 2014
#309
If Obama can pull off another Game-Changer like the ACA, then he might well
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2014
#99
It doesn't surprise me that you and others like you here don't see the hypocrisy of your statement
berni_mccoy
Mar 2014
#140
Let me know when you subtract from your donation so I can be sure increase mine to offset it
corkhead
Mar 2014
#122
There has always been a right/left divide on DU. Establishment vs Anti-establishment.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#127
If the most, and only, important thing about Snowden's revelation of NSA overreach is that
djean111
Mar 2014
#154
Bullseye. That is one way to tell, if everything is personalized to Obama, whatever the issue
quinnox
Mar 2014
#159
Funny, with all the sound and fury about these Obamabots, no links to support any of it.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#206
The posters who were trying to help him also let it be known that they didn't condone
Cha
Mar 2014
#334
There is no doubt there are Republicans posing as DUers in here. Keep your eyes open
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#252
DU is currently riddled with GOPers and Naderites pretending to be libs.
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#255
IF there is any confusion (and I'm not entirely sure when and where) it is because
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#266
Apparently now Obama swerves to the right on positions? Do you have any idea what it takes to
lumpy
Mar 2014
#275
Yes he is to the right on alot of issues that have been important for a long time on here
Marrah_G
Mar 2014
#278
Classic GOP technique since the CREEP - campaign to re-elect the president - Nixon. They have never
freshwest
Mar 2014
#337
I read it. Republicans are the sickest assholes that ever lived. Seriously. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#377
Obamabot reporting for duty! Been called one since 2008 online. (Warning: Obama pictures!)
freshwest
Mar 2014
#317