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28. Life-cycle assessment of high-speed rail: the case of California

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:39 AM

Mar 2012

http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/5/1/014003/fulltext/

And their occupancy estimates seem too high for trains running between nowhere and nowhere, considering that cost, environmental impacts, NIMBY politics, and the deteriorating economy will keep the end segments to LA and San Francisco from ever being built.

OTOH, light rail, subway, and commuter rail systems tend to be much more efficient.

Intercity buses, with 35 passengers in a vehicle getting 6 miles per gallon of diesel are quite efficient, and they are making a comeback for short intercity travel.

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Now Obama Wants To Build A $5 Billion Bullet Train From Las Vegas To Nowhere [View all] FarCenter Mar 2012 OP

Why wouldn't they just make the train go all the way to LA? /nt Drale Mar 2012 #1

My guess is because of the Cajon Pass. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #5

150 mph trains require special railways and complete grade separation from streets and highways FarCenter Mar 2012 #6

A mountain range. nt Codeine Mar 2012 #29

I doubt this will fly.......... TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #2

I hope not! izquierdista Mar 2012 #4

Nice! Codeine Mar 2012 #30

"Planning" high speed rail on behalf of governments is quite the cottage industry OmahaBlueDog Mar 2012 #3

150MPH? anti-alec Mar 2012 #7

We need high speed rail... lib2DaBone Mar 2012 #8

High speed rail is roughly as energy efficient as airplanes FarCenter Mar 2012 #11

High-speed rail will make the switch to fuel other than oil more JDPriestly Mar 2012 #15

I don't know where you got your information from, but Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #22

Life-cycle assessment of high-speed rail: the case of California FarCenter Mar 2012 #28

Your assessment may be true for a desert bullet train Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #36

let Las Vegas pay for it all out of its obscene profits from "not rigged" gambling nt msongs Mar 2012 #9

"Planners imagine" obey Mar 2012 #10

Not only that. I heard that some mobster is building a casino in the middle of the desert! Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #12

LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2012 #17

Not gonna happen. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #13

We don't need a train to Las Vegas. We need a train from LA to San Francisco, one JDPriestly Mar 2012 #14

I live in LA and I'll most likely never hear the end of thr '"Disneyland - Vegas train" jokes. Initech Mar 2012 #16

Yeah I thought that too Politicalboi Mar 2012 #19

Highway 15 from Victorville to Vegas can be a 150+ mile long traffic jam. denbot Mar 2012 #26

There were two plans for high-speed rail... ljm2002 Mar 2012 #18

If I've driven 100 miles from Santa Monica to Victorville... KeepItReal Mar 2012 #20

As a Californian, no mag lev, NO DEAL! Firebrand Gary Mar 2012 #21

That is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #23

I dunno, works elsewhere including CT and NYC. Chan790 Mar 2012 #24

Commuter rail into NYC is not really comparable to this proposal. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #25

People who live in San Bernadino might use it, there are people that live there too. Raine Mar 2012 #27

we have a lot of people who come from california to las vegas newspeak Mar 2012 #31

Republicans for Reid helped Reid win the election in 2010???!!! dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #32

Wow, you managed to bash Obama, Reid, and mass transit in one post while FSogol Mar 2012 #33

They've been blathering on about this for 20 years LadyHawkAZ Mar 2012 #34

This is nothing new... Javaman Mar 2012 #35