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proverbialwisdom

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4. Respectful Insolence critiques study, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, more.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:09 PM
Mar 2014
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/03/14/autism-clusters-and-toxins/

Autism clusters and “toxins”
Posted by Orac on March 14, 2014


(Blather)

COMMENT:

March 14, 2014

The study isn’t solid proof of environmental influences on autism, but there’s virtually never solid proof of any influence of any environmental factor on anything where free-living humans are concerned. When you’re dealing with substances that humans consume voluntarily, the best you can get is prospective observational studies combined with animal studies. When substances that are consumed, breathed, etc. unintentionally are involved, especially when you do not assume that only one such substance has any effect, it may be that population-level studies are the best you can manage.

There are now an increasing number of studies that measure bisphenol A levels in individual pregnant women, for example, and correlate them with unwanted outcomes in the offspring. But you couldn’t possibly do such a study that measured exposures to every conceivable pesticide and plasticizer. Nor could you do one with millions of mothers, so participant numbers are relatively small and results easy to handwave away. Hence an alternative approach is the population-level study. Attempting not just to acknowledge that method’s real and significant limitations, but to dismiss all such studies altogether with scientistic claims that they constitute this or that Fallacy, is the behavior of someone who suspects that such studies may give results that will not suit his ideology.

More. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #1
STUDY: “Environment and incentives affect the incidence of autism and intellectual disability" proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #2
Previous OP: How Environmental Toxins Can Cause Autism proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #3
Respectful Insolence critiques study, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, more. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #4
Nice reporting in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, WaPo, LA Times... Oh, wait, NOTHING. (nt) proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #5
Mind if I take it though and forward it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #6
Actually, here's explicit validation from GoTeamKate: "Stop Making the Conversation Controversial." proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #7
True, and thanks for the links by the way nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #8
You're welcome. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #12
Discussion continued. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #9
Study suggests potential association between soy formula and seizures in children with autism. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #10
More links from Dr. Martha Herbert. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #11
Dr Martha Herbert: "A Whole Body Approach to Brain Health," 3/21 @ 3pm. Free and open to the public! proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #18
PLOS ONE - Soy Infant Formula and Seizures in Children with Autism: A Retrospective Study proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #13
The existence of clusters of autism is old news. KamaAina Mar 2014 #14
If this was ho-hum nothin', paradoxically, it'd be plastered all over the media. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #16
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